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Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/6/2019 2:48:35 PM   
Tamas

 

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Status: offline 		Post here please if you would like to have other country-specific subforums opened for discussion.

It would help your cause greatly if you could also offer to post something in it to get the work started. :) Links to study, etc.

Thanks!
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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/6/2019 9:06:49 PM   
exsonic01

 

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Status: offline 		East Asian countries
1) RoK (Republic of Korea) or South Korea
2) DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) or North Korea
3) PRC (People's Republic of China) or China
4) Japan (if possible)

Most of South Korean equipment and weapons are US ones or based on US ones. Same goes to North Korea and China, most of their weapons and vehicles are Soviet ones or variants based on Soviet ones. As a result, I think copying of US datasheet for South Korea, and Russian datasheet for North Korea (and China also) would be a good starting point. Later, me or other people might include more data with sources.

Just curiosity: I heard that devs are currently working for Steam version of AB. Is this datasheet and forum also shared with Steam? Or will there be additional separate version of research forum via Steam?

Thank you

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/7/2019 8:56:04 AM   
Tamas

 

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ORIGINAL: exsonic01

East Asian countries
1) RoK (Republic of Korea) or South Korea
2) DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) or North Korea
3) PRC (People's Republic of China) or China
4) Japan (if possible)

Most of South Korean equipment and weapons are US ones or based on US ones. Same goes to North Korea and China, most of their weapons and vehicles are Soviet ones or variants based on Soviet ones. As a result, I think copying of US datasheet for South Korea, and Russian datasheet for North Korea (and China also) would be a good starting point. Later, me or other people might include more data with sources.

Just curiosity: I heard that devs are currently working for Steam version of AB. Is this datasheet and forum also shared with Steam? Or will there be additional separate version of research forum via Steam?

Thank you


The intention is to have a common discussion board for equipment&OOB that the devs and the community can use, so we'll not do a separate Steam one, but obviously anyone from the Steam forum is welcome to contribute here.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/13/2019 8:09:41 PM   
Jo van der Pluym


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From: Valkenburg Lb, Netherlands
Status: offline 		Netherlands

Has a mix of German, French, US and British equipment.



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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/14/2019 7:25:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym

Netherlands

Has a mix of German, French, US and British equipment.




A second for the Netherlands!

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/17/2019 3:26:11 PM   
rgeiger


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Status: offline 		I would add a request for Switzerland. Of course I am biased..

In the time period covered by AB an interesting mix of German, British, US and French equipment was in use, as well as some very interesting tanks and vehicles produced in Switzerland and used only by us.

Also, the mountainous, cut terrain may be an interesting choice for tactical battles.

I don't know if Switzerland's reliance on fixed gun emplacements, prepared obstacles and bridges, tunnels etc. prepared for immediate desctruction can be modelled in the game engine...

What I have on hand are the official (and unclassified) tank recognition field manuals from 72 and 77 (issued to my father during his time as an AT platoon commander and company commander) covering Swiss and potential NATO and WAPA opponents. I also have my own experience and FMs, although my own service as an artillery platoon (and deputy battery commander) is a bit out of the timeframe (1998 to 2016). I'd also have to check for potential classification on the later FMs. No detailed info regarding armour penetration, I am afraid. It might be a possibility for me to contact the Swiss Tank Museum at Thun Barracks for research regarding the Swiss developed tanks.

I think the mix of challenging terain, unique vehicles and very particular doctrine might make Switzerland an interesting choice for the future.

I now rest my case.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/17/2019 3:42:19 PM   
nikolas93TS


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Status: offline 		Netherlands was already in the freeware database (as was Sweden and Norway). A very interesting faction in my opinion. There is an excellent website (https://www.orbat85.nl/) which is a good starting point.

By the way, this thread is for requiring opening of country specific sub-forums in case you can help out with research. We have seen some people working privately on new factions, and we wanted to encourage them to share the research data. If latter is good, it can speed up official adding of that faction in the game (with new sprites, map etc.).

Also, corrections on existing factions are also highly welcome. We still have a lot to expand on some of those (particularly on US and Soviets), particularly in terms of unit formations.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/27/2019 8:54:25 AM   
Panzerfan

 

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Status: offline 		I'd also like to request switzerland, I also have some good source books and a couple of old FMs.
I could also try to get some more sources from the Swiss military museum in Full, i sometimes work there as a guide and monitor

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/27/2019 3:51:38 PM   
Talisman

 

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Status: offline 		Assuming you'd entertain countries outside the ETO, I'd like to throw SOUTH AFRICA, ANGOLA and CUBA into the mix. The conflict between these three nations (as superpower proxies) ebbed and flowed across southern Angola for roughly 15 years. While often characterised by low-intensity, high-mobility COIN operations, it escalated from '85 to '88 into an all out conventional confrontation (including brigade level mechanised/tank battles). Both historical and hypothetical scenarios would be really interesting and contrast nicely with the high-density, concentrated European stuff.


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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/27/2019 7:52:16 PM   
rothscorn

 

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Status: offline 		Japan, please.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 6/27/2019 8:45:56 PM   
exsonic01

 

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From: Somewhere deep in appalachian valley in PA
Status: offline 		Greece and Turkey?
1) Both joined NATO 1952, but their relation was always not that great.
2) Geopolitical location of two nations was very important to deny/blockade the Soviet Black Sea fleet into Mediterranean sea. (and it still is)
3) Greece is just below the Yugoslavia, and Turkey is right below the Greece. I have no idea about both nation's plan during cold war against PACT nations, but Greece has direct border against some PACT nations.

My personal favorite for other theater is still #1 Korea and #2 Israel, but watching & playing Greece and Turkey mode would be very interesting.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 7/12/2019 10:53:56 AM   
Mr9million

 

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From: Sweden
Status: offline 		I would like to put in a vote for a Sweden sub-forum. As another user stated, the nation existed in the freeware version of the game so someone could probably extract information from there.

I also have a lot of relatives who did military service during the time period and know a lot about the weapon systems and vehicles.

When the game releases on steam I'm going to purchase it and am hoping to make a map of the Östgöta plain.

Here are some useful links that can be used as springboards to find further information! (They're in Swedish but you'll probably be able to translate it!)

sphf . se/svenskt-pansar/fordon/

pennanochsvardet . se/smb-rekommenderar/kuriosakabinettet/2157-svensk-pansarvaern-under-kalla-kriget

I do not have permission to post links so just copy and paste it into your search bar and remove the spaces in the links!

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 7/28/2019 3:30:25 PM   
Akmatov

 

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Status: offline 		Denmark, kinda basic considering WP probably intentions

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 8/5/2019 6:42:31 PM   
Capocarro94


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Status: offline 		The game, for the moment, is centered on the "European theater" mainly on AFNORTH (the only finland that is not part, being neutral), NORTHAG (Northern German Plain), CENTAG (Fulda Gap), LANDSOUTH (North-East Italy).
I suggest to complete NATO and Warsaw Pact nations.

AFNORTH: Norway (NATO), ---(WP)
NORTHAG: Netherland, Belgium (NATO), Poland (WP)
CENTAG: France, Canada (NATO), Czechoslovakia (WP)
LANDSOUTH: ---(NATO), Hungary (WP)




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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 8/6/2019 2:08:43 AM   
Infierno


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quote:

ORIGINAL: exsonic01

East Asian countries
1) RoK (Republic of Korea) or South Korea
2) DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea) or North Korea
3) PRC (People's Republic of China) or China



Seconding these suggestions.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 8/6/2019 9:22:46 AM   
Jo van der Pluym


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Capocarro94

The game, for the moment, is centered on the "European theater" mainly on AFNORTH (the only finland that is not part, being neutral), NORTHAG (Northern German Plain), CENTAG (Fulda Gap), LANDSOUTH (North-East Italy).
I suggest to complete NATO and Warsaw Pact nations.

AFNORTH: Norway (NATO), ---(WP)
NORTHAG: Netherland, Belgium (NATO), Poland (WP)
CENTAG: France, Canada (NATO), Czechoslovakia (WP)
LANDSOUTH: ---(NATO), Hungary (WP)




+1

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 9/2/2019 1:43:42 AM   
cmb20

 

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Status: offline 		I would like to see Turkey

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 9/25/2019 1:23:29 PM   
Hwakmoon

 

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Status: offline 		I would like to see something like Iraq/iran forces with a desert storm scenario

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 9/25/2019 2:03:23 PM   
nettlas

 

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Status: offline 		Sweden for sure, its location in the Baltic sea region with Gotland was vital for the Warsaw pact to invade and have control over. They got an interesting arsenal and veichel pool

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 9/27/2019 4:03:50 AM   
nikolas93TS


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Status: offline 		For me Sweden, Norway and Denmark make sense to be released as a part of a single, Scandinavian DLC.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 11/4/2019 6:32:47 AM   
MyKeyBlue

 

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Status: offline 		I think a fun couple nations would be Greece and Turkey being added defending Thrace against a new PACT nation (say Bulgaria or Romania). It would be an interesting area that honestly doesn't get enough focus from Cold War enthusiasts as honestly there would be a lot of focus from the Soviets on opening the Turkish straits IMO as there was during peace times. Not to mention how close we were to a WW3 during the Turkish Straits Crisis with Stalin, although that's not really in the scope of this game.

I'd of course really like to see Scandinavia and the Far East, both being irrefutable hot spots in the Cold War, but maybe consider giving Greece and Turkey a bit of love

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 11/4/2019 7:40:51 AM   
DoubleDeuce


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From: Crossville, TN
Status: offline 		I would go with the Middle East since most of the equipment is pretty much already in the base game with the US/Soviet forces. Turkey could be included as part of that or as a nation in a Southeast European DLC package mentioned by MyKeyBlue.

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 11/4/2019 9:12:54 AM   
kch

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: nikolas93TS

For me Sweden, Norway and Denmark make sense to be released as a part of a single, Scandinavian DLC.


It would be awesome, with a Gotland map (Sweden defending against a Soviet attack), a Finmark map (Norway vs Soviet in the snow) and Jutland map (Danish, German forces against DDR/Soviet) and/or Seeland (Danish vs Polish as part of a landing)

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 11/14/2019 9:42:01 AM   
ChortleBuffer

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hwakmoon

I would like to see something like Iraq/iran forces with a desert storm scenario

quote:

I would like to see something like Iraq/iran forces with a desert storm scenario


Same here.

I would like to see the Iran-Iraq war. I guess you already have all the models. Perhaps just shifting the colors in your paint package could shift them from Russian green over to a desert yellow?

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 11/26/2019 10:14:55 PM   
Gratch1111

 

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Status: offline 		Suggested DLC`s

Sweden, Denmark, Norway, 3 Maps, Denmark flats, Norway mountains and Sweden forrest oob, SE is the hard one
Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, Canada, Netherlands + 2 Maps Germany and Austria/Hungary border oob would be easy since its mostly sov Nato equipment
North and South Korea + Japan 2 maps oob, Japan is the hard one
Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania 1 map oob not very hard
Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria 2XDesert maps maps are the big work and Israel is a lot of equipment
China, Taiwan 1 map and you need marine assault mechanics Marine assault is the difficulty

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 12/20/2019 8:17:38 AM   
storm rider


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Status: offline 		Brasil

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 10/2/2020 8:25:43 AM   
zeeschuimer


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Capocarro94

The game, for the moment, is centered on the "European theater" mainly on AFNORTH (the only finland that is not part, being neutral), NORTHAG (Northern German Plain), CENTAG (Fulda Gap), LANDSOUTH (North-East Italy).
I suggest to complete NATO and Warsaw Pact nations.

AFNORTH: Norway (NATO), ---(WP)
NORTHAG: Netherland, Belgium (NATO), Poland (WP)
CENTAG: France, Canada (NATO), Czechoslovakia (WP)
LANDSOUTH: ---(NATO), Hungary (WP)





+1

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 10/2/2020 8:37:33 AM   
zeeschuimer


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From: The Netherlands
Status: offline 		USAN (Union of South American Nations):
Chile, Equador, Argentina, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Equador.

Next to that: Brasil, Venezuela, Panama and Cuba

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RE: Country Requests - Raise your hand! - 11/23/2020 1:02:46 PM   
rocketman71

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kch


quote:

ORIGINAL: nikolas93TS

For me Sweden, Norway and Denmark make sense to be released as a part of a single, Scandinavian DLC.


It would be awesome, with a Gotland map (Sweden defending against a Soviet attack), a Finmark map (Norway vs Soviet in the snow) and Jutland map (Danish, German forces against DDR/Soviet) and/or Seeland (Danish vs Polish as part of a landing)

If that was to happen I would buy the game instantly. Still on the fence about it due to too many games not being played enough.

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