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Message Retrieval - 12/30/2005 12:19:42 AM

hbrsvl

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Hi-Is there any way to retrieve messages after they have been flashed on the screen? What gets me is when, after the "training crews" segment, messages flash up re AK XYZ arrives Karachi, 3rd Marine div. arrives SFO, etc. Sometimes these are quite extensive reinforcements & remembering them all can be a chore. Any suggestIons? Thanks, Hugh Browne

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/30/2005 12:38:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: hbrsvl

Hi-Is there any way to retrieve messages after they have been flashed on the screen?

No.

I complained about this shortly after the game came out and was told it was working as designed.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/30/2005 3:41:40 PM

Sardaukar

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I think Bodhi's WitP utility does store them.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/30/2005 3:46:52 PM

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I don't think it does. His utility uses the reports that are geneerated, it does not, nor can not access in game messages that do not get written out to a file.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/30/2005 4:01:07 PM

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Its like the importaint bit of information that flashes at the end of the ground combat animation the adjusted assult odds. Why this does not appear on the combat report I do not know.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/30/2005 11:42:22 PM

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Bodhi's wonderful utility does not capture those messages. As Cpt Sherwood says, it can only use what gets written to files and the reinforcements received information doesn't get written to any of the files.

As for why so much critical information is hard or impossible for the player to access, well, I gave my opinion on that a long time ago and was told that to stop making up paranoid consipiracy theories.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/31/2005 12:24:49 AM

Ron Saueracker

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As for why so much critical information is hard or impossible for the player to access, well, I gave my opinion on that a long time ago and was told that to stop making up paranoid consipiracy theories.

Reminds me being told to stop complaining about ASW and Uber CAP/Strike Coordination issues. I apparently was merely being an ass.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/31/2005 12:51:16 AM

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Bodhi's wonderful utility does not capture those messages. As Cpt Sherwood says, it can only use what gets written to files and the reinforcements received information doesn't get written to any of the files.

All I have to work with is what stored on disk: the three text files made each turn resolution, and the scenario database files.

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As for why so much critical information is hard or impossible for the player to access, well, I gave my opinion on that a long time ago and was told that to stop making up paranoid consipiracy theories.

You forgot the key $1000 carrot.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/31/2005 2:45:08 AM

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You forgot the key $1000 carrot.

Yes, I am quite aware of that thread.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/31/2005 4:14:18 AM

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One issue was that if the information was written to one of the report files was that the other player would also have access to it.

I think that this was why devs did not want to do it.

Michael

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ORIGINAL: hbrsvl

Hi-Is there any way to retrieve messages after they have been flashed on the screen? What gets me is when, after the "training crews" segment, messages flash up re AK XYZ arrives Karachi, 3rd Marine div. arrives SFO, etc. Sometimes these are quite extensive reinforcements & remembering them all can be a chore. Any suggestIons? Thanks, Hugh Browne

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/31/2005 4:56:51 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: hbrsvl

Hi-Is there any way to retrieve messages after they have been flashed on the screen? What gets me is when, after the "training crews" segment, messages flash up re AK XYZ arrives Karachi, 3rd Marine div. arrives SFO, etc. Sometimes these are quite extensive reinforcements & remembering them all can be a chore. Any suggestIons? Thanks, Hugh Browne

What I do is to copy about 90 day's worth of the important reinforcements onto sheets of paper and "tick" them off as the arrive. Then when I reach the end of a sheet I start a new one.

Sure, it's "primative", but it works, and it does seem an "appropriate" method for a WW II game...

Dave Baranyi

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/31/2005 6:04:31 AM

Ron Saueracker

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I don't bother with any of this aside from checking the main reinforcement bases every week or so. Tends to slow things down admirably and removes some of the hindsight we all benefit from.

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RE: Message Retrieval - 12/31/2005 10:50:14 AM

MarcA

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One issue was that if the information was written to one of the report files was that the other player would also have access to it.

I think that this was why devs did not want to do it.

Michael

So why not an arrived list within the db as many other games use?

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