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Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 8:21:08 AM   
rroberson

 

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Status: offline 		Fun stuff so far. But I am getting the following message between each play.

Additionally, I am getting artifacts on my screen...reply will have what it looks like.




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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 8:22:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Strange..this only happens in games with my unis modded.




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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 8:23:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh and I have a pretty kick ass rig....nvida 6800 card...gig of ram its my gaming machine....I tried this at first on max settings. THinking I was overtaxing my pc i took it down to high. Same issue.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 8:26:05 AM   
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Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: alienware
System Model: alienware
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 317MB used, 2145MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Previously: Crashed in system information (stage 3)

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPU
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6800 Ultra
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F9&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: BenQ FP731
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.7189 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/1/2005 16:16:00, 3980288 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 4/1/2005 16:16:00, 3454656 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-43B9-11CF-A57F-0A2003C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x00F9
SubSys ID: 0x00000000
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 4:17:30 PM   
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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 4:22:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		It may be looking through the netting on the goalposts. I had a similar experience in an outdoor game. I was on my own 3 yardline or thereabouts and could see a see-through impression of the goalpost and crossbar.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 4:24:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem for me is when I return back to the game it does not appear to return back to the instance where the game displayed this error. It is almost like the game skips ahead to the next play.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 5:46:31 PM   
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this only happens in games with my unis modded.


Do you mean this happens only when you use textures that have been modded by a 3rd party?

zowee77, is this the same with your issue? Do you also get these anomalies with modded uniforms or with the basic set?

Can you two pleae make sure you run the latest drivers for your video cards.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 6:12:31 PM   
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It actually happened when I played a indoor mode quick play game with Miami versus Denver with default uniforms in the arena stadium. I have a NVIDA FX5700VE 256 DDR video card with the latest NVIDIA drivers. My computer is a Athlon XP 2.3 GHz with 1GHz of DDR RAM running Windows XP.

< Message edited by zowee77 -- 3/4/2006 6:18:48 PM >

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 6:57:09 PM   
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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 8:32:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the transparent goalpost when it would otherwise be blocking your view is by design. However, the f9 error is not. Rob, can you please try updating your nVidia drivers to the latest version to see if that helps? You can download them from www.nvidia.com.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/4/2006 9:25:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

I think the transparent goalpost when it would otherwise be blocking your view is by design. However, the f9 error is not. Rob, can you please try updating your nVidia drivers to the latest version to see if that helps? You can download them from www.nvidia.com.

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will do.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 12:41:09 AM   
zowee77

 

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I have the latest nvidia drivers version 81.98 Feb 7th and had them installed when I seen the problem. Oddly enough it appeared only to happen when I selected quick play, indoor rules and the arena stadium.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 12:54:05 AM   
Erik Rutins

 

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When you selected that, were you already set to the Indoor League as well in the League screen? The League should match the default rules you are using.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 12:54:56 AM   
Erik Rutins

 

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Status: offline 		Rob, Zowee,

Can you post for us the DxDiag file for your systems? (Rob, I just need to see the audio info for yours as well, I have the rest from your post above).

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 1:00:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Zowee,

When you selected that, were you already set to the Indoor League as well in the League screen? The League should match the default rules you are using.

Regards,

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Erik,

Actually I did not at the time have the default league set to the indoor teams. Let me go back and make sure that the default league is set to indoor and try to replicate the issue with that setting. I will be back shortly.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 1:26:01 AM   
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When I set indoor teams to default it appears not to cause the problem. I will continue to test this theory but within a quater and a half I have not seen this error appear which before I seen it within a few series of play.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 1:45:47 AM   
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Sound Devices
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Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [EF00]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20021102&REV_04
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0402 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/19/2003 20:33:02, 509328 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [EF00]
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0402 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/19/2003 20:33:02, 509328 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: Enabled
Ports: SB Audigy 2 ZS DirectMusic Synthesizer [EF00], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [EF00], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth A [EF00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS Sw Synth [EF00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth B [EF00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [EF00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [EF00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run


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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 1:50:44 AM   
Erik Rutins

 

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Status: offline 		Rob,

Thanks for that, please see if you can update your audio driver to be newer than 2003 and let me know if that makes any difference.

Zowee,

Good to hear it's fine as long as the league and quickplay defaults match. Please report anything else you find.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 2:42:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think I have this licked. My belief is when I originally installed my mods I missed a file, thus the reoccuring mod error. I wiped the game, did a fresh install and then readded my mods...


badda bing

badda boom

no issues so far.

Thanks erik




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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 6:29:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great to hear Rob! Thanks for the follow up.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 6:31:27 AM   
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I think I have this licked. My belief is when I originally installed my mods I missed a file, thus the reoccuring mod error. I wiped the game, did a fresh install and then readded my mods...


False alarm. At least we know what can cause that problem.

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 6:54:14 AM   
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but I spent all afternoon setting up my league

Do I just back up MainData.mdb and lge_GFL.mdb (GFL being my league of course) and put them back

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RE: Graphics issue - 3/5/2006 3:49:29 PM   
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I completed an entire indoor game last night and did not encounter this specific error. It appears at least for me that when the League setup and the rules match up and you play in the arena stadium that the error goes away. The only error I encountered was the one you are already are aware of at the goal line where the offense and defense setup about 5 to 10 yards in the endzone and attempts to runplays. This problem has already been identified. I would point out however that I did get a ridicously highscore something like 120 to 96. However their are a multitude of modifications that can be made to address this and this to me is not a error in game design at all.

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