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ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 9:42:13 AM   
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Fell in love with this little gem the first time I saw here on an military fair 11 years ago (was 17 at the time ) and just HAD to buy here.

I know what it is, but you guy's can still have a go at it....
Unfortunately, my Japanese is not as good as my plane recognition skill, so if anybody can decipher what is said here, please.....





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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 9:52:20 AM   
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Jack.

I have a few old old framed prints as well somewhere.

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 10:27:41 AM   
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Yes, it is indeed a Jack (no so difficult), notice the guns mounted on top of the engine?. This is the only pic I ever saw that has this armamant layout..
Let's call it "artistic freedom"

Any clues on the japanese caracters ?

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 10:33:41 AM   
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Ok, just had a quick look at the Jack's armament, and read that the first 150 or so production models actually had engine mounted guns...




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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 11:18:41 AM   
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Isnt that the dog from Tin Tin????

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 11:27:27 AM   
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Definitely looks Hergé-drawn...

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 12:02:39 PM   
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Definitely looks Hergé-drawn...


That is exactly what made her so beautifull to me

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 12:06:00 PM   
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Why's it say "B-29" on the bombs?

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 12:09:16 PM   
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Why's it say "B-29" on the bombs?


Apearantly, the japanese version of tintin is looking up to see if there are any B-29''s overhead, so he can run into his J2m and shoot them down.

The compostion is a bit weird, that's why I want to know what the japanese caracters on the bombs and on the jack mean......

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 12:10:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

Apearantly, the japanese version of tintin is looking up to see if there are any B-29''s overhead, so he can run into his J2m and shout them down.





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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/14/2006 12:11:03 PM   
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Already fixed it before I even saw your post

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/15/2006 3:56:45 AM   
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If you want more info on this you can probably consult the people who know best...the Tintinologists!

http://www.tintinologist.org/

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/15/2006 11:14:38 AM   
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If you want more info on this you can probably consult the people who know best...the Tintinologists!

http://www.tintinologist.org/


I just posted a query, will keep you guys informed...

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/16/2006 5:00:59 PM   
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Ok, This is what I heard about it sofar....

360 types of these drawings where made INCLUDING a WWII line
have a look, they look real nice...


http://users.skynet.be/tintinpassion/VOIRSAVOIR/Avion2/pages_avion2/062_Avion2.html

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/16/2006 7:59:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

Ok, This is what I heard about it sofar....

360 types of these drawings where made INCLUDING a WWII line
have a look, they look real nice...


http://users.skynet.be/tintinpassion/VOIRSAVOIR/Avion2/pages_avion2/062_Avion2.html


These are great love everyone of them.

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 1:19:04 AM   
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Just got so exited by these puppies that I spend 10 euro and bought myself 3 more of them on Ebay

This is just one of them:






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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 1:24:14 AM   
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what the hell? did hergé actually draw these? why the hell did he do that?

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 1:28:03 AM   
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actually has some fairly interesting information (all in french though)... I didn't know the Ohkas had a 30% hit ratio...

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 1:52:29 AM   
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Yep....30% of them hit the water.....the rest exploded in midair

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 3:25:01 AM   
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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 3:28:47 AM   
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This old comic pics are great!!!

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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 11:31:33 AM   
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what the hell? did hergé actually draw these? why the hell did he do that?


Yes he did (at least for the tintin figures), a co-worker drew the planes and herge drew in tintin in some pose. The series was done for children under the motto "look and learn" (VOIRS a AVOIR) I a currently bidding on Ebay for ONE last image.... Gues what it is




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RE: ridle me this.... - 3/17/2006 11:37:17 AM   
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This is the WHY (my Frech sucks, so here it is for you Trenchies out there )

C'est vers 1940, dans un carnet de notes, qu'Hergé jette les bases d'un ambitieux projet encyclopédique. Il souhaite évoquer à travers Tintin l'histoire des moyens de transport, mais aussi les moeurs des peuples antiques, les pays les plus variés, les sciences, les techniques, l'industrie, les animaux, les plantes ou les grands hommes.

En 1944, Edgar P. Jacobs vient travailler aux côtés d'Hergé et le projet commence à se concrétiser.

Les premières images sont publiées dans l'hebdomadaire Tintin, dès 1946. « Les entretiens du capitaine Haddock » et « Les propos du major Wings » traitent alternativement de la marine et de l'aviation.

C'est l'essor du " Timbre Tintin " qui donne au projet " Voir et savoir " son visage définitif : les dessins sont édités sous forme de chromos en couleurs, que les enfants peuvent obtenir en échange de quelques timbres proposés dans l'hebdo ou sur de nombreux produits.

Mais le projet s'est restreint au fil des ans : d'une complète encyclopédie du savoir humain, on est passé à une simple histoire des moyens de transport.

En 1975, dans la bibliographie d'Hergé qui clôturait la première version de ses " Entretiens avec Hergé ", voici ce que Numa Sadoul disait des Chromos de la collection " Voir et Savoir " :

Depuis pratiquement 1946, le journal Tintin publie des chromos sur divers sujets documentaires et éducatifs.

À partir des années 1950, le Lombard a édité des séries de splendides chromos couleurs indépendants du journal et accessibles en échange des " chèques Tintin " contenus dans le journal ou dans divers produits commerciaux. Tous signés " Hergé ", ces chromos sont le fruit d'une collaboration et sont parus en deux temps.

Deux premières collections - malheureusement interrompues - sont parues sous la " direction historique et technique " d'Edgar P. Jacobs :

L'Aérostation, 6 séries de 6 chromos chacune.
Le Chemin de fer, 1 série de 6 chromos.
Puis Jacques Martin a remplacé Jacobs à la tête de cette production. Sont alors parues 5 collections complètes, chacune présentée en 10 séries de 6 chromos (soit 60 chromos par collection). Réalisées par Hergé, Martin, Bob de Moor, Roger Leloup et Georges Fouillé, ces collections sont :

L'Automobile, des origines à 1900.
L'Aviation, guerre 1939-1945.
L'Aviation, des origines à 1914.
La Marine, des origines à 1700.
La Marine, de 1700 à 1850.
Soit au total 300 chromos parus.

Puis les Studios Hergé ont préparé d'autres collections (costumes, armes, etc.), mais ces chromos n'ont jamais vu le jour. Il en existe cependant une certaine quantité à l'état de projet aux archives des Studios.

Pour regrouper les collections parues, les éd. du Lombard ont édité 5 albums cartonnés de présentation luxueuse (avec des éditions en broché) :

L'Aviation, guerre 1939-1945, " Direction historique et technique : Jacques Martin " (1953).
L'Automobile, tome I, des origines à 1900, " Direction historique et technique : Jacques Martin " (1953).
L'Aviation, tome I, des origines à 1914, " Direction historique et technique : Jacques Martin " (1954).
La Marine, tome I, des origines à 1700, " Direction : Jacques Martin - Collaboration historique et technique : Georges Fouillé, peintre officiel de la Marine française, et Bob de Moor " (1954).
La Marine, tome II, de 1700 à 1850, " Direction : Jacques Martin - Collaboration historique et technique : Georges Fouillé, peintre officiel de la Marine française, et Bob de Moor " (1963).
Il me reste à ajouter que les éditions Septimus ont entrepris la réédition de ces chromos sous la forme de 6 grands albums cartonnés sous liseuses, chacun orné d'un magnifique dessin original d'Hergé :

Tintin raconte... L'histoire de l'Automobile, des origines à 1900, (1978).
Tintin raconte... L'histoire de l'Aviation, guerre 1939-1945, (1979).
Tintin raconte... L'histoire de la Marine, des origines à 1700, (1979).
Tintin raconte... L'histoire de l'Aviation, des origines à 1914, (1980).
Tintin raconte... L'histoire de l'Aérostation, des origines à 1940, (1980).
Tintin raconte... L'histoire de la Marine, de 1700 à 1850, (1981).
Ce sont ces albums que j'ai numérisé ici.

Bonne lecture et bon plaisir avec Tintin.

Philippe



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