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Plane cargo capacity - 4/7/2006 10:10:04 PM

niceguy2005

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Anyone know how to figure out about how much cargo a plane can carry.

How many supplies/troops can a B-17 carry versus a Catalina, vesus an Empire?

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/7/2006 10:12:10 PM

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go to aircraft data and it will tell you.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/7/2006 10:50:33 PM

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It's the "maximum load" number, down in the bottom left area.

And 1 supply = 2000 load points.

So a plane with a max load of 4000 can carry 2 supply points to the destination.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/7/2006 11:18:20 PM

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And 1 supply = 2000 load points.

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WOW. ok, thanks

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/7/2006 11:22:01 PM

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So if a plane carries, say, 2500 points, does it carry 1.25 supply points or is the rest of the plane packed with condoms (a la the air supply of the Stalingrad pocket)?

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/8/2006 1:03:22 PM

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How much transport points is inf squad or support squad ? Is there any list for that or formula ?

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/9/2006 6:49:38 PM

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How much transport points is inf squad or support squad ? Is there any list for that or formula ?

I'd like to add to this question some more.
I have a case where Topsy's are not transporting 70mm howitzer and 13mm AAMG guns. They can carry a load of 3800, so I assume it's that a single howitzer or AAMG exceeds the capacity of a single plane and this equipment is not distributed among planes. But then how do I know what kind of equipment needs what plane type or load capability to be transported?

I had also such a case with the Type 13 radar of an IJ base force.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/9/2006 7:32:07 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

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ORIGINAL: Milman

How much transport points is inf squad or support squad ? Is there any list for that or formula ?

I'd like to add to this question some more.
I have a case where Topsy's are not transporting 70mm howitzer and 13mm AAMG guns. They can carry a load of 3800, so I assume it's that a single howitzer or AAMG exceeds the capacity of a single plane and this equipment is not distributed among planes. But then how do I know what kind of equipment needs what plane type or load capability to be transported?

I had also such a case with the Type 13 radar of an IJ base force.

As per Rules Book: "Only items in a ground unit with a load cost of less than 7 may be transported by air".

The load costs of varios devices are listed in the database.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/10/2006 7:23:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dino

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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

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ORIGINAL: Milman

How much transport points is inf squad or support squad ? Is there any list for that or formula ?

I'd like to add to this question some more.
I have a case where Topsy's are not transporting 70mm howitzer and 13mm AAMG guns. They can carry a load of 3800, so I assume it's that a single howitzer or AAMG exceeds the capacity of a single plane and this equipment is not distributed among planes. But then how do I know what kind of equipment needs what plane type or load capability to be transported?

I had also such a case with the Type 13 radar of an IJ base force.

As per Rules Book: "Only items in a ground unit with a load cost of less than 7 may be transported by air".

The load costs of varios devices are listed in the database.

I'm glad we have guys around who actually read the manual. I promise one fine day I'll read it myself.

Thx, Dino. Got to check out that part of the manual soon.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/10/2006 8:10:53 PM

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I'm glad we have guys around who actually read the manual. I promise one fine day I'll read it myself.

Thx, Dino. Got to check out that part of the manual soon.

Oh, don't bother... There will always be some volunteer with too much time on his hands.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/10/2006 8:25:56 PM

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quote:

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I'm glad we have guys around who actually read the manual. I promise one fine day I'll read it myself.

Thx, Dino. Got to check out that part of the manual soon.

Oh, don't bother... There will always be some volunteer with too much time on his hands.

Also, there are NUMEROUS instances where the manual is incorrect.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/10/2006 11:06:52 PM

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For instance, it does not warn you that the Air Transport Pick-up command does not work.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/10/2006 11:31:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dino

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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

I'm glad we have guys around who actually read the manual. I promise one fine day I'll read it myself.

Thx, Dino. Got to check out that part of the manual soon.

Oh, don't bother... There will always be some volunteer with too much time on his hands.

Hmmm, I just went through the manual but couldnt find any table regarding load cost for equipment, do you have a page number at hand by any chance? I found the chapter stating nothing beyond load cost 7 but how do I know the load cost of a certain piece of equipment?

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 12:18:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dino

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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

I'm glad we have guys around who actually read the manual. I promise one fine day I'll read it myself.

Thx, Dino. Got to check out that part of the manual soon.

Oh, don't bother... There will always be some volunteer with too much time on his hands.

Hmmm, I just went through the manual but couldnt find any table regarding load cost for equipment, do you have a page number at hand by any chance? I found the chapter stating nothing beyond load cost 7 but how do I know the load cost of a certain piece of equipment?

That's because you have the "official" manual, not the secret manual. The official manual was put out as part of a disinformation campaign.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 12:30:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

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ORIGINAL: Dino

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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

I'm glad we have guys around who actually read the manual. I promise one fine day I'll read it myself.

Thx, Dino. Got to check out that part of the manual soon.

Oh, don't bother... There will always be some volunteer with too much time on his hands.

Hmmm, I just went through the manual but couldnt find any table regarding load cost for equipment, do you have a page number at hand by any chance? I found the chapter stating nothing beyond load cost 7 but how do I know the load cost of a certain piece of equipment?

That's because you have the "official" manual, not the secret manual. The official manual was put out as part of a disinformation campaign.

I just accidently found the information in the in-game database...

Either put everything in the manual OR in the game OR both, this mixture is no good.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 1:19:16 AM

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I just accidently found the information in the in-game database...

Either put everything in the manual OR in the game OR both, this mixture is no good.

You forgot the editor. Much critical information is only accessible via the editor (a fault of many games these days, not just WiTP).

While I agree with the sentiment, even more important is make sure the information is accurate!!!

*mutter mutter mutter*

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 5:06:07 PM

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make sure the information is accurate!!!

Now you got me puzzled... Is this a general suggestion, or something related to this specific question?

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 7:12:38 PM

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Don't go there.

We're having trouble soothing him as it is.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 7:18:46 PM

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make sure the information is accurate!!!

Now you got me puzzled... Is this a general suggestion, or something related to this specific question?

I believe the esteemed dtravel was referring to the WitP manual, which apparently has some incorrect information.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 8:08:42 PM

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I believe the esteemed dtravel was referring to the WitP manual, which apparently has some incorrect information.

I know, I know... I was just fishing for some "clasified" information...

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/11/2006 10:16:04 PM

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I believe the esteemed dtravel was referring to the WitP manual, which apparently has some incorrect information.

I know, I know... I was just fishing for some "clasified" information...

Its mostly just me being in a foul mood. A combination of argueing with Mogami over whether industry can be destroyed, not just damaged, by fire bombing in the game and coming up on fifty or sixty days of continuous rain here. Its really uncomfortable wearing scuba gear for that long.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 1:17:08 AM

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coming up on fifty or sixty days of continuous rain here. Its really uncomfortable wearing scuba gear for that long.

Mr. dtravel, if your planning on building an ark, I have some plans I can sell you. you just need to be able to convert cubits to feet. Course there's a lot of extra space for animals, I don't know what you would do with it.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 1:48:11 AM

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Maybe I'm just to tired or plain dumb... but how do I fire up the editor? Dont see any .exe file or a link in the starting screen...

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 1:51:11 AM

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coming up on fifty or sixty days of continuous rain here. Its really uncomfortable wearing scuba gear for that long.

Mr. dtravel, if your planning on building an ark, I have some plans I can sell you. you just need to be able to convert cubits to feet. Course there's a lot of extra space for animals, I don't know what you would do with it.

Thanks, but I couldn't build one even if I was inclined to. The wood is all waterlogged and there's no place I could do the construction. If it is a slope, its sliding into the ocean. If its level, its mud and anything I built would just sink into it. *gloop*

On a more serious note, it has been raining so much that it is actually hurting the economy. Not just buildings destroyed & condemned and roads washing away, but people literally not going out because of all the rain. If people don't go out, they don't spend money and that lack of spending is hurting the local businesses.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 1:52:49 AM

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Maybe I'm just to tired or plain dumb... but how do I fire up the editor? Dont see any .exe file or a link in the starting screen...

"Start" -> "All Programs" -> "War in the Pacific" -> "Scenario Editor"

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 1:54:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

coming up on fifty or sixty days of continuous rain here. Its really uncomfortable wearing scuba gear for that long.

Mr. dtravel, if your planning on building an ark, I have some plans I can sell you. you just need to be able to convert cubits to feet. Course there's a lot of extra space for animals, I don't know what you would do with it.

Thanks, but I couldn't build one even if I was inclined to. The wood is all waterlogged and there's no place I could do the construction. If it is a slope, its sliding into the ocean. If its level, its mud and anything I built would just sink into it. *gloop*

On a more serious note, it has been raining so much that it is actually hurting the economy. Not just buildings destroyed & condemned and roads washing away, but people literally not going out because of all the rain. If people don't go out, they don't spend money and that lack of spending is hurting the local businesses.

What if local businesses sold umbrellas, boots, rain gear etc?

Is it really that bad? where are you? I tend to not watch the news much anymore...too much negative crap.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 2:05:31 AM

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On a more serious note, it has been raining so much that it is actually hurting the economy. Not just buildings destroyed & condemned and roads washing away, but people literally not going out because of all the rain. If people don't go out, they don't spend money and that lack of spending is hurting the local businesses.

What if local businesses sold umbrellas, boots, rain gear etc? Is it really that bad? where are you? I tend to not watch the news much anymore...too much negative crap.

I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. And after two months of near continuous rain, anyone who was going to buy raingear has already done so.

The rain has been a nightly item on the local news, with houses and roads getting washed away daily. The decrease in local business revenues was an ancillary item about a week ago.

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 3:36:38 AM

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Maybe I'm just to tired or plain dumb... but how do I fire up the editor? Dont see any .exe file or a link in the starting screen...

"Start" -> "All Programs" -> "War in the Pacific" -> "Scenario Editor"

And once you find "Scenario Editor", the "Database Editor" is just few icons away...

Mistmatz, the data in the editor is not so straight forward. The way I understand it, it's a combination of "device type" and "load cost", but we need some help from moders here.

I think you should be looking at positions starting at 272...

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 4:49:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: Dino

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ORIGINAL: dtravel

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ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

Maybe I'm just to tired or plain dumb... but how do I fire up the editor? Dont see any .exe file or a link in the starting screen...

"Start" -> "All Programs" -> "War in the Pacific" -> "Scenario Editor"

And once you find "Scenario Editor", the "Database Editor" is just few icons away...

Next time he should say which editor he wants then!

back at ya!

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RE: Plane cargo capacity - 4/12/2006 7:15:11 AM

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I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. And after two months of near continuous rain, anyone who was going to buy raingear has already done so.

The rain has been a nightly item on the local news, with houses and roads getting washed away daily. The decrease in local business revenues was an ancillary item about a week ago.

Maybe you could hire a native person to do a drought dance...couldn't hurt.

Sorry though to hear about all the soggy weather. It sounds rather bad. Hope you and your family are staying safe and warm.

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