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Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 6:39:44 PM

m10bob

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In the WWII U.S.Navy, the fliers were called "Airedales"....(See....you thought this was gonna be another thread about those stupid "cheap dunk shoes"....Only thing I dunk is donuts.......)

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 7:08:59 PM

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First!

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 8:05:05 PM

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Both post and reply went completely over my head. I have no idea what this is all about.

Canoerebel <------ ignoramus

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 8:28:56 PM

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Black shoe officers = surface ship guys
Brown shoe officers = fliers.

There is a rift between the two to this day in the USN (or appears to be)...

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 9:40:31 PM

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Just a continuation of the battleship club vs. carrier club, which was probably preceded by the SoL club vs. frigate club . . . trireme club vs. quinquireme club, etc. Institutions always need their internal rivalries.

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 9:54:19 PM

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Just a continuation of the battleship club vs. carrier club, which was probably preceded by the SoL club vs. frigate club . . . trireme club vs. quinquireme club, etc. Institutions always need their internal rivalries.

Sorry my friend, the rivalry predates any US carrier.Brown shoes for airdales (Navy spelling) were adopted sometime in 1916 due to a shortage of black shoe leather. Also , airdales originally wore riding boots. They were made for other services in brown. Also adopted was the avaition green , still in service today (but rare, and expensive--all wool) which was also "adapted" from another service (USMC).

Besides, they look really cool with the brown leather flight jacket!

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 9:55:04 PM

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Black shoe officers = surface ship guys
Brown shoe officers = fliers.

There is a rift between the two to this day in the USN (or appears to be)...

Actually brown shoes=aviation. Black shoes is everyone else.

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 10:36:23 PM

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"Wet" shoes is the term for rroberson?

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/4/2009 10:58:26 PM

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Besides, they look really cool with the brown leather flight jacket!

Only an airdale would think that. The real work goes on in the enginerooms. No need for a panzy azzed brown fury jacket the light weights need to protect themselfs from the way too harsh elements real sailors experience down in the hole.

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/5/2009 2:20:16 AM

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Besides, they look really cool with the brown leather flight jacket!

Only an airdale would think that. The real work goes on in the enginerooms. No need for a panzy azzed brown fury jacket the light weights need to protect themselfs from the way too harsh elements real sailors experience down in the hole.

Whipple

Only a snipe would think being locked in a hot , sweltering dungeon , not to see the light of day for months on end, was the "real Navy". They think that they are the brains behind the operation , when in reality thay are 21st century galley slaves.

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/5/2009 10:25:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Whipple

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Besides, they look really cool with the brown leather flight jacket!

Only an airdale would think that. The real work goes on in the enginerooms. No need for a panzy azzed brown fury jacket the light weights need to protect themselfs from the way too harsh elements real sailors experience down in the hole.

Whipple

Only a snipe would think being locked in a hot , sweltering dungeon , not to see the light of day for months on end, was the "real Navy". They think that they are the brains behind the operation , when in reality thay are 21st century galley slaves.

I love it! Got me ta smiling even before I had my lifer juice this morning. It does bring up a line from the Ten Commandments with Charleston Heston though. When he is an oarsman on the galley, one of the guys with a whip tells them, "We keep you alive to serve this ship". I figure that guy was related to one of the first Chiefs I worked for.

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/5/2009 10:44:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: Whipple

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Whipple

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Besides, they look really cool with the brown leather flight jacket!

Only an airdale would think that. The real work goes on in the enginerooms. No need for a panzy azzed brown fury jacket the light weights need to protect themselfs from the way too harsh elements real sailors experience down in the hole.

Whipple

Only a snipe would think being locked in a hot , sweltering dungeon , not to see the light of day for months on end, was the "real Navy". They think that they are the brains behind the operation , when in reality thay are 21st century galley slaves.

I love it! Got me ta smiling even before I had my lifer juice this morning. It does bring up a line from the Ten Commandments with Charleston Heston though. When he is an oarsman on the galley, one of the guys with a whip tells them, "We keep you alive to serve this ship". I figure that guy was related to one of the first Chiefs I worked for.

Whipple

Wasn't that Ben Hur?

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RE: Brown Shoes - 2/5/2009 11:34:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: Whipple

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Besides, they look really cool with the brown leather flight jacket!

Only an airdale would think that. The real work goes on in the enginerooms. No need for a panzy azzed brown fury jacket the light weights need to protect themselfs from the way too harsh elements real sailors experience down in the hole.

Whipple

Only a snipe would think being locked in a hot , sweltering dungeon , not to see the light of day for months on end, was the "real Navy". They think that they are the brains behind the operation , when in reality thay are 21st century galley slaves.

I love it! Got me ta smiling even before I had my lifer juice this morning. It does bring up a line from the Ten Commandments with Charleston Heston though. When he is an oarsman on the galley, one of the guys with a whip tells them, "We keep you alive to serve this ship". I figure that guy was related to one of the first Chiefs I worked for.

Whipple

Wasn't that Ben Hur?