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It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 5:24:33 PM

Brigs

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Hi gents,

What a terrific game ! Just downloaded it about a week ago, received the disk and manual about 4 or 5 days later, and it's been wreaking havoc on my personal time ever since.

Being a total newb I started with the smaller �Thousand Mile� scenario, and thought it was a great omen when the AI and myself ended in a perfect draw. Of course I had no idea what I was doing, so like any good ex-marine would do, I just loaded up a bunch of guys on some LST�s and we put our heads down and rushed �em. Yep, ran right up to the beach, opened up on their coastal guns with one of our LST�s, and let the cruisers and destroyers just stand off at a distance while their crew drank beer and enjoyed the show. Hey, whatever works�..strategy will just have to wait.

A couple of comments.

Devs, thanks sooo much for a game where alt-tab actually works without crashing the game. Given the complexity of this game, I can�t imagine not being able to go back and forth between the game and the manual whenever needed. Nicely done.

Also, I�ve seen a few posts where people mention about all the mouse clicking that needs to be done. For those that may not know, there is a way to avoid it. FWIW, I�ve been playing computer games for a very long time, and one of the neatest things I�ve used is something called a multi-function panel. Nothing showed up on a forum search for it, so thought I�d mention it because IMHO it�s perfect for this game. Essentially, it�s a small panel with a bunch of keys that you put wherever you want on the panel�..you set the keys to perform any keystroke you want (including mouse clicks)�..and you can then check bases/lists/intel reports/TF�s/etc (and alt-tab to the manual) without ever having to look at and reach for the keyboard again. It may not be worth it to everybody, but I love it. The one I happen to use is made by CH Products, and on a scale of 1 to 100 the ease of setup and learning curve to use it is about a 1. I think they�re about $180-$190 (US), so it is a little salty. But, then again, it is almost time for a Christmas wish list.

Anyway, just wanted to say hello�..I�m saving up all my game-mechanics questions for later.

Brigs

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 5:39:59 PM

bspeer

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From one noob to another, welcome!

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 5:40:59 PM

LST Express

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Welcome aboard brigs and enjoy the ride!

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 7:02:03 PM

Frandoxxx

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Yup, it is fun being a noobie other than no one you know ever sees you anymore.

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 7:08:46 PM

Canoerebel

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You have stepped into the Twilight Zone where all your free time and attention will be sucked away by this haunting, addicting, mesmerizing game. Welcome to the club!

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 7:20:13 PM

Braedonnal

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Welcome abroad, Brigs. One newbie to another.

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 7:53:46 PM

Lifer

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There are no ex-Marines. Don't you remember "Once a Marine...
1981-2003
I'm no lifer. I'm going to do my four years and get the f@#$ out.

Greg

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 8:22:25 PM

thegreatwent

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Best game ever, except for when you err

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 9:57:37 PM

Kwik E Mart

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brigs

Hi gents,

What a terrific game ! Just downloaded it about a week ago, received the disk and manual about 4 or 5 days later, and it's been wreaking havoc on my personal time ever since.

Being a total newb I started with the smaller �Thousand Mile� scenario, and thought it was a great omen when the AI and myself ended in a perfect draw. Of course I had no idea what I was doing, so like any good ex-marine would do, I just loaded up a bunch of guys on some LST�s and we put our heads down and rushed �em. Yep, ran right up to the beach, opened up on their coastal guns with one of our LST�s, and let the cruisers and destroyers just stand off at a distance while their crew drank beer and enjoyed the show. Hey, whatever works�..strategy will just have to wait.

A couple of comments.

Devs, thanks sooo much for a game where alt-tab actually works without crashing the game. Given the complexity of this game, I can�t imagine not being able to go back and forth between the game and the manual whenever needed. Nicely done.

Also, I�ve seen a few posts where people mention about all the mouse clicking that needs to be done. For those that may not know, there is a way to avoid it. FWIW, I�ve been playing computer games for a very long time, and one of the neatest things I�ve used is something called a multi-function panel. Nothing showed up on a forum search for it, so thought I�d mention it because IMHO it�s perfect for this game. Essentially, it�s a small panel with a bunch of keys that you put wherever you want on the panel�..you set the keys to perform any keystroke you want (including mouse clicks)�..and you can then check bases/lists/intel reports/TF�s/etc (and alt-tab to the manual) without ever having to look at and reach for the keyboard again. It may not be worth it to everybody, but I love it. The one I happen to use is made by CH Products, and on a scale of 1 to 100 the ease of setup and learning curve to use it is about a 1. I think they�re about $180-$190 (US), so it is a little salty. But, then again, it is almost time for a Christmas wish list.

Anyway, just wanted to say hello�..I�m saving up all my game-mechanics questions for later.

Brigs

specifically what buttons did you use? sounds interesting...

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 10:17:07 PM

tocaff

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Welcome. Your life will never be the same again. If you're married I hope she understands and has things to keep her busy while you're occupied.

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 10:20:00 PM

KenchiSulla

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Aye, this War in the Pacific stuff is very interesting. The only problem I have with this game is I have to balance it with Eagle day - bombing the reich, WW2 online for some flying action, a job, sports and a girlfriend....

They dont bring out a manual for stuff like that

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 10:31:25 PM

88l71

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

You have stepped into the Twilight Zone where all your free time and attention will be sucked away by this haunting, addicting, mesmerizing game.� Welcome to the club!

Here we go, a parody of "Twilight Zone" by Golden Earring:

It's 7th December, the game is on
I'm sittin here deploying, where have my warships gone?
Should I Sir Robin, should I be takin chances?
Japanese are on the loose, lots of troops are dead
And I'm stuffin' the manual into my head
I cannot decide, this freakin' first turn is just crazy

Help I'm steppin' into the AE zone
This game is a madhouse, I think I need a clone
To move my supplies to every freakin' base
I'm gonna turn into a basket case
Help I'm steppin' into the AE zone
This game is a madhouse, I think I need a clone
To move my supplies to every freakin' base
I'm gonna turn into a basket case
Soon you will come to cuss
When the I-boats hit the AK
Soon you will come to cuss
When the I-boats hit the AK

I see a Jap convoy, destination unknown
And I have one destroyer, all alone
I can't get no logistics, can't get them through, need planes too
And Singapore weighs heavy on my guilty mind
As I draw my defensive line
And when the enemy comes
I know damn well I am defeated

Help I'm steppin' into the AE zone
This game is a madhouse, I think I need a clone
To move my supplies to every freakin' base
I'm gonna turn into a basket case
Help I'm steppin' into the AE zone
This game is a madhouse, I think I need a clone
To move my supplies to every freakin' base
I'm gonna turn into a basket case
Soon you will come to cuss
When the I-boats hit the AK
Soon you will come to cuss
When the I-boats hit the AK

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 11:03:03 PM

thegreatwent

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/5/2009 11:24:14 PM

DivePac88

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Welcome Brigs to the beautiful game.

Don't worry about real-life, you will learn to fit it around the game. While the learning curve is long and steep, you will find the time invested is well worth it. As has been said above; most of the questions you need to ask have been answered in these threads.

Good luck, and may all your torpedoes run true (unless your playing me).

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 1:05:26 AM

Brigs

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Thanks for the welcome guys.

That song was really cool :)

quote:

specifically what buttons did you use?

All of the in-game hotkeys Kwik E Mart, and the left mouse button so far. You can set up individual keystrokes (EG-a hotkey) and/or combinations of keystrokes (E.G-alt/tab). So to alt-tab to the manual, I tap one key. It doesn't sound like much talking about it, but since you physically put the keys anywhere on the panel you want, you can set them up to fit your hand. After about a half hour or so you start working the mechanics of the game by feel.
Here's a link if you want to check it out. http://www.chproducts.com/retail/mfp.html

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 1:51:51 AM

rogueusmc

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lifer

There are no ex-Marines.� Don't you remember "Once a Marine...
1981-2003
I'm no lifer.� I'm going to do my four years and get the f@#$ out.

Greg

The proper term is 'former' Marine...welcome aboard...good to have another hard chargin', no quit, Teufel hound dog around here...we are getting deep on swabbies...

< Message edited by rogueusmc -- 11/6/2009 1:52:24 AM >

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 3:14:57 AM

oldman45

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lifer

There are no ex-Marines.� Don't you remember "Once a Marine...
1981-2003
I'm no lifer.� I'm going to do my four years and get the f@#$ out.

Greg

The proper term is 'former' Marine...welcome aboard...good to have another hard chargin', no quit, Teufel hound dog around here...we are getting deep on swabbies...

You could always swim to your next beach party

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 3:22:30 AM

rogueusmc

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...touche taxi driver...

What did you do on board?

I always sought out the chiefs...I let them know I'd do whatever they needed done and they made my life easy on our little boat rides. If I couldn't get to the chief of the boat, I'd make sure I got the mess chief. I did NOT have to partake in the room temperature cold cuts for midrats if the chief was around...

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 3:28:14 AM

Lifer

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Fox and Friends this morning was on the USS New York. I think it was Doocy that said that the ship was a kind of taxi for the Marines. I laughed and had to explain to my co-workers that this was not the right thing to say while on a Navy ship. I'm sure their e-mail lit up to correct the slight.

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 3:45:16 AM

oldman45

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

...touche taxi driver...

What did you do on board?

I always sought out the chiefs...I let them know I'd do whatever they needed done and they made my life easy on our little boat rides. If I couldn't get to the chief of the boat, I'd make sure I got the mess chief. I did NOT have to partake in the room temperature cold cuts for midrats if the chief was around...

I worked in the repair department. Hull Tech. We had marines onboard because of the over sized pop bottle rockets we had onboard to trade to the subs. So unless the gunny was looking for some welding done or needed something built the only other time we saw them was during the drills and it was to our benifit to stay out of the way. They took their job very seriously when it came to protecting the nukes.

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 10:55:12 AM

Brigs

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quote:

There are no ex-Marines. Don't you remember "Once a Marine...
1981-2003
I'm no lifer. I'm going to do my four years and get the f@#$ out.

Greg

quote:

The proper term is 'former' Marine...welcome aboard...good to have another hard chargin', no quit, Teufel hound dog around here...we are getting deep on swabbies...

Swabbies are all right.....I just wouldn't let 'em date my sister 'cause I've seen some of the bars they like to hang out in when they're in port.

Semper Fi

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 1:00:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lifer

There are no ex-Marines.� Don't you remember "Once a Marine...
1981-2003
I'm no lifer.� I'm going to do my four years and get the f@#$ out.

Greg

The proper term is 'former' Marine...welcome aboard...good to have another hard chargin', no quit, Teufel hound dog around here...we are getting deep on swabbies...

Somebody has to be the bus driver for all you jarheads.

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"They need more rum punch" - Me

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 1:03:00 PM

USSAmerica

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And a hearty, "Welcome aboard!" to all our newbies! Even the trees.

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"They need more rum punch" - Me

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 6:54:03 PM

Mac Linehan

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Hi, Brigs and welcome aboard!

WITP AE is Outstanding - you will get more than your money's worth. It is a remarkable group of people that comprise this forum - who are a lot of fun to be with. We are glad to have you with us.

Mac

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/6/2009 9:52:43 PM

oldman45

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At what point do we reach critical mass of having too many Marines vs Navy vs Army vs the rest? Is there a danger point? Some kind of fail safe mechanism?

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/7/2009 2:03:57 AM

rogueusmc

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ORIGINAL: oldman45

At what point do we reach critical mass of having too many Marines vs Navy vs Army vs the rest? Is there a danger point? Some kind of fail safe mechanism?

Who was it that said, "too much of a good thing is simply wonderful."?

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/7/2009 2:08:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Aye, this War in the Pacific stuff is very interesting. The only problem I have with this game is I have to balance it with Eagle day - bombing the reich, WW2 online for some flying action, a job, sports and a girlfriend....

They dont bring out a manual for stuff like that

also an noob, just downloaded it and iam rellay happy
that ive also bought the boxed version, im a bit overhelmed
and cannot get an grasp atm

any1 now if there an good tutorial online who takes
up the basic?

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/7/2009 5:40:23 AM

morganbj

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lifer

There are no ex-Marines.� Don't you remember "Once a Marine...
1981-2003
I'm no lifer.� I'm going to do my four years and get the f@#$ out.

Greg

I knew quite a few "lifers" with less than 3 years service.

Stay safe.

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/7/2009 1:54:22 PM

Brigs

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quote:

At what point do we reach critical mass of having too many Marines vs Navy vs Army vs the rest? Is there a danger point?

It's been my experience that critical mass is only reached when there is just one beer left in the cooler.

quote:

Who was it that said, "too much of a good thing is simply wonderful."?

I'm not exactly certain, but I think it was either Josef Stalin or Michael Jackson.

quote:

also an noob, just downloaded it and iam rellay happy
that ive also bought the boxed version, im a bit overhelmed
and cannot get an grasp atm

If you are only a 'bit' overwhelmed then you are light years ahead of me.

The manual+the forum+a lot of patience = an eventual pbem game.

quote:

I knew quite a few "lifers" with less than 3 years service.

Stay safe.

Amen, brother

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RE: It's good to be a newbie - 11/8/2009 1:58:32 AM

koontz

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brigs

quote:

If you are only a 'bit' overwhelmed then you are light years ahead of me. The manual+the forum+a lot of patience = an eventual pbem game.

Well iam think iam very overhelmed, maybe u wanna do an pbem game with me next year or so?

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