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Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 7:06:57 PM

tomed63

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scenario date is Dec 02 1942
carrier Enterprise in task force near Savaii,
Enterprise fighter air group VF-6 is 9(2) F4F Wildcat (36)
CVE Copahee in replenishment task force near Savaii,
Copahee fighter air group is VRF-3F 28(0) F4F Wildcat (36)

My question is how do I transfer the replacement aircraft from the Copahee to the Enterprise
without transferring the entire VRF-3F Group?
I should be able to request replacement aircraft for the deplinished air group from the replenishment group. Right?

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 7:25:52 PM

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Yes but your replenishment group have to be at normal range from the target though.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 7:38:13 PM

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The carrier and the replenishment group are in the same square,
but no aircraft were replaced when I requested at sea replenishment.
There are 4 replenishment carriers in the replenishment group.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 8:13:44 PM

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I'm not sure of the date. I used this in the Marianas scenario but I don't know if it's possible in 1942.

If your cve are in replenishment tf and the replenishment group at normal range from the target. Then if you can't press the replacement button in the group targeted, it mean you can't do that in 1942.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 8:22:29 PM

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I don't recall this being available as a manual process...(i.e you can not "see" avail AC in the pool and hit the button to pull in up to 12 AC like you would from production stockpiles while in port). It's been about a year since I was in a game that was at a point VRFs were in play so recollection may be off. Thought it only occured auto-majicly...replacement group, on a replenishment TF, within normal range, sqdn you wanted update set to accept replacements "on", xfers happen when the turn cycles. Again, could be wrong...it's been quite awhile. Don't recall if the VRF sqdn that is sending the AC had to also be set to replacements "on" (although that seems counter-intuitive), that would be my guess. Kevin

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 9:30:40 PM

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The issue may be the early date but I could not find the section of the manual that addresses it.I just don't think it is possible in 1942. However it does work well when the time come. VR squadrons just need to be on a CVE in a replenishment TF that is in normal range of the larger CV. The replacements will flow automatically to replace losses, you do not have to to anything. They will also work from land if in normal range of the carriers. In 1945 when you are fighting with massive fleets around the home island they are invaluable.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 9:54:52 PM

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I don't think the process is manual: if the conditions are met (normal range, replenishment TF, etc.) it just happens automatically (or doesn't -- seems to be some randomness built in?)

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/13/2014 11:03:25 PM

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No, I can assure you it is not random. If the requirements are met it works flawlessly. Except just like land based air replacements, there is a limit to how many a carrier group can accept at one time. So massive losses might not be fully replaced in one turn.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/14/2014 1:45:41 AM

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It's not done via the "replenish at sea" process. Put your carriers containing replenishment groups in a replenishment taskforce. You should then be able to go into the air groups on the carriers that you want to draw planes into and manually draw planes into each group (the same button you use for land based air groups- it's on the air group screen). This would also happen automatically if those airgroups where set to take replacements. Note that the replenishment groups must have the same airframes as those that you are replacing.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/14/2014 11:51:55 AM

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Do you otherwise meet the replacement aircraft requirements? Replacements are on, the squadron has not already taken replacements within the past week? Even from a different base?

On the air screen, is there a message saying "Replacements on," "Replacements Delayed," etc.? That could clue you in to the reason.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/14/2014 12:18:05 PM

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Thanks to everyone for the help.
The fighters were replacements delayed, but the dive bombers were all automatically replaced.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/14/2014 2:59:28 PM

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Just one thing, are the fighters in unit needing replacement same type as replacement squadron has? E.g. F4F-4 and F4F-3 mix won't happen.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/14/2014 3:23:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tomed63

scenario date is Dec 02 1942
carrier Enterprise in task force near Savaii,
Enterprise fighter air group VF-6 is 9(2) F4F Wildcat (36)
CVE Copahee in replenishment task force near Savaii,
Copahee fighter air group is VRF-3F 28(0) F4F Wildcat (36)

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/14/2014 6:19:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Itdepends

quote:

ORIGINAL: tomed63

scenario date is Dec 02 1942
carrier Enterprise in task force near Savaii,
Enterprise fighter air group VF-6 is 9(2) F4F Wildcat (36)
CVE Copahee in replenishment task force near Savaii,
Copahee fighter air group is VRF-3F 28(0) F4F Wildcat (36)

Doesn't say if they are F-3 or F-4 both. There are 2 major versions of F4F Wildcat, F-3 and F-4, they cannot be mixed in same squadron. Checking squadron screens would show it. Might be worth checking if this is the reason.

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RE: Carrier aircraft replacement - 6/14/2014 8:18:00 PM

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The first time it happened to me I was really POed. The game designated a training squadron as the replacement squadron. The pilots involved had no business being on a carrier at war, so I had to go to port to get rid of them.