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Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 12:09:07 PM

Chris21wen

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Think this is a very, very small bug I think.

Two AGs entered upgrade at the same time in two separate ports. At the time neither port had any other ships in repair. I cannot access the 'Manage ships under repair' menu, it's not visible. Once another ship enters repair it becomes available.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 12:31:02 PM

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Yes, it is not damaged, therefore it does not need repair management.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 12:53:11 PM

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Yes, it is not damaged, therefore it does not need repair management.

Ah, I see. So used to seeing upgraded ships in the list never thought about it. However there is a small inconsistancy here, it is visible in the list of 'Ships under repair'.

No need to replay it's a small thing.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 12:58:50 PM

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No inconsistency, no bug.

It is off line, because it has a minimum upgrade time to serve out. It does not require management repair, as Admiral Dadman says, because it is not actually damaged.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 4:56:33 PM

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No inconsistency, no bug.

It is off line, because it has a minimum upgrade time to serve out. It does not require management repair, as Admiral Dadman says, because it is not actually damaged.

Doesn't "Repair Management" apply to the facilities more than the ships? If you accelerate repair through the priority system, it is the facilities whose points are redistributed. And if you want to remove a ship without float damage from the shipyard - as in the example above - you often need the repair management screen to do that - the ship screen itself does not always let you take it out of the SY.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 5:12:50 PM

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No inconsistency, no bug.

It is off line, because it has a minimum upgrade time to serve out. It does not require management repair, as Admiral Dadman says, because it is not actually damaged.

Doesn't "Repair Management" apply to the facilities more than the ships? If you accelerate repair through the priority system, it is the facilities whose points are redistributed. And if you want to remove a ship without float damage from the shipyard - as in the example above - you often need the repair management screen to do that - the ship screen itself does not always let you take it out of the SY.

And if you have another ship that can be in either pierside or shipyard mode, you hit the set all this mode button.

No problemo.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 6:01:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

No inconsistency, no bug.

It is off line, because it has a minimum upgrade time to serve out. It does not require management repair, as Admiral Dadman says, because it is not actually damaged.

Doesn't "Repair Management" apply to the facilities more than the ships? If you accelerate repair through the priority system, it is the facilities whose points are redistributed. And if you want to remove a ship without float damage from the shipyard - as in the example above - you often need the repair management screen to do that - the ship screen itself does not always let you take it out of the SY.

And if you have another ship that can be in either pierside or shipyard mode, you hit the set all this mode button.

No problemo.

I do not believe you can stop an upgrade in the middle. Once you start it, that ship is out of operation and stuck in that port until finished. Otherwise you could stop upgrades on the next turn and get the full upgrade without paying the time cost.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/23/2020 9:11:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

No inconsistency, no bug.

It is off line, because it has a minimum upgrade time to serve out. It does not require management repair, as Admiral Dadman says, because it is not actually damaged.

Doesn't "Repair Management" apply to the facilities more than the ships? If you accelerate repair through the priority system, it is the facilities whose points are redistributed. And if you want to remove a ship without float damage from the shipyard - as in the example above - you often need the repair management screen to do that - the ship screen itself does not always let you take it out of the SY.

And if you have another ship that can be in either pierside or shipyard mode, you hit the set all this mode button.

No problemo.

I do not believe you can stop an upgrade in the middle. Once you start it, that ship is out of operation and stuck in that port until finished. Otherwise you could stop upgrades on the next turn and get the full upgrade without paying the time cost.

Xargun

Moving from SY to pierside mode does not stop the upgrade. The SY may be a requirement to start an upgrade, but as soon as it is started, the SY is no longer needed unless you have some float damage to repair (some conversions do inflict float damage, and ships needing repair can start an upgrade). Quite often, to prevent clogging the SY with ships that had a SY as part of the upgrade trigger, I let them start the upgrade (often overstacking the SY) and then move them out to pierside repair mode next turn. There is no adverse effect on the upgrade from doing that.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/24/2020 7:51:21 AM

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Moving from SY to pierside mode does not stop the upgrade. The SY may be a requirement to start an upgrade, but as soon as it is started, the SY is no longer needed unless you have some float damage to repair (some conversions do inflict float damage, and ships needing repair can start an upgrade). Quite often, to prevent clogging the SY with ships that had a SY as part of the upgrade trigger, I let them start the upgrade (often overstacking the SY) and then move them out to pierside repair mode next turn. There is no adverse effect on the upgrade from doing that.

That's what I was trying to do when I raised the question.

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RE: Manage ships under repair - 11/24/2020 11:40:23 AM

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If no other ship needs repairs, and the upgrading ships are not consuming shipyard generated repair points (zero damage), they can just sit there. As soon as some other damaged ship goes pierside you can change them all with one button click. This is not a bug.

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