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Convoys attacked by air - 12/24/2021 8:14:43 AM

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Just to understand this result:

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 12/24/2021 8:16:06 AM

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First question: Do I assume correctly that the escorts that you are assigning to convoy lanes are the equivalent of DD groups with Convoy Escort advancement?

As such, they have a default Anti-Air value of 3.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 12/24/2021 8:19:19 AM

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And then, they are updated with the value of Anti-Air inside each Convoy Escort advancement levels?

So, here, an Anti-Air value of 3 + 0 = 3.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 12/24/2021 8:21:22 AM

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I don't count USSR still with Convoy Escort 1939 and USA not at war.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 12/24/2021 8:28:33 AM

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Second question: Do I assume correctly that the Naval Air value is the one used to attack MMs by air inside a given convoy lane?

In this case, it seems better to increase Naval Air Training advancement levels.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 12/24/2021 3:09:56 PM

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#1 Escorts have an inherit 1 AA if I remember. Might have forgot to put that in the rule book
#2 Yes naval air is used.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 12/24/2021 3:10:24 PM

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I'll check on #1. I know I did something.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 1/23/2022 10:34:27 AM

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Did you had time to check for #1? I have a linked question. In the turn report, I do not see any mention of escorts when convoys are attacked by air.

sinking 0 merchant marine and 0 escorts

Is it a miss just in the report? Or, is it just not possible to destroy escorts when convoys are attacked by air?

Thanks

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 1/23/2022 1:43:56 PM

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The air attacks are just kept simple. I don't mention escorts or anything.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 1/23/2022 1:44:13 PM

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I have never seen a convoy escort destroyed by air. It would be possible in reality but I am okay if not in the game.

One thing to note...IF your aircraft attacking the convoy is within range of an enemy port it will focus on that.
Wish that could be controlled...hit port or hit MM...
Hitting the port is not always useful when they have say 10 of them all connected.

Overall...air vs convoy is not that useful. Ties up an air unit and the hit ratio is VERY low.

I had a German air unit in Norway for 6 months once...I think it hit 1 MM the whole time attacking the route.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 1:32:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stjeand

Overall...air vs convoy is not that useful. Ties up an air unit and the hit ratio is VERY low.

I had a German air unit in Norway for 6 months once...I think it hit 1 MM the whole time attacking the route.

Same here, I think it did not touch anything in 6 months. I even wonder if it is working.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 2:10:22 PM

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I already gave up putting planes in range to attack the Murmask convoy for what you say, it had more air casualties than MM sunk, which were very few.

A few days ago I tried to place in range an Italian aircraft with naval ascent, (Naval air = 5), I don't know if the Naval air factor influences. My plane did not sink any MM, in about 6 months. I think this should be reviewed.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 2:27:20 PM

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I see them hit sometimes, but very very rarely. Also, from what I see, an interceptor in range (full support etc.) does not seem to have any effect, contrary to supply interdictions where they do react.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 3:01:11 PM

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If you don't invest in naval air then your results won't be so good.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 4:24:46 PM

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This bomber unit is at Naval Air 1941. Looks like this is not good enough.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 4:26:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nirosi

I see them hit sometimes, but very very rarely. Also, from what I see, an interceptor in range (full support etc.) does not seem to have any effect, contrary to supply interdictions where they do react.

Does CV provide air cover over convoys?

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 5:12:51 PM

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All my air attacks on convoys in all games ever have sunk 0 merchants.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 6:25:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nirosi

I see them hit sometimes, but very very rarely. Also, from what I see, an interceptor in range (full support etc.) does not seem to have any effect, contrary to supply interdictions where they do react.

Does CV provide air cover over convoys?

Good question. I do not know. Never was in a situation were I could see it. I have indeed seen MM points sunk, but very very rarely. I would suspect probably not for CV protection, since even land-based fighters do not seem to react.

But, Alvaro has already confirmed (but quite a while ago, when it was implemented) that after a certain date they can get shot down by escorts as escorts' points also include CVEs eventually.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/4/2022 8:13:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: sveint

All my air attacks on convoys in all games ever have sunk 0 merchants.

You are a lucky man, aren't you?

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/5/2022 3:52:26 PM

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I tested it. I'll take a look. It isn't working right. It should be hitting something.

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RE: Convoys attacked by air - 2/5/2022 4:14:02 PM

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Alvaro,

Can you also please check if land-based fighters near to raid hex would be reacting to the bombers (like they do for supply interdiction). I do not think they do now.

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