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Squad level wargames - 7/7/2008 7:01:49 PM   
Kuokkanen

 

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Status: offline 		Tell me what squad level computer wargames you know. If game has RPG elements (most of those does), I don't forbid it, but avoid the ones like Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights. I know some myself:
UFO serie
X-COM serie
Jagged Alliance serie
Laser Squad (Nemesis)
Space Hulk
Space Crusade
Pathway to Glory (for N-Gage)

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/7/2008 8:16:32 PM   
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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/7/2008 8:19:15 PM   
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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/7/2008 9:43:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		All of the Combat Mission games (old series and new) are squad-level wargames.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 12:50:31 AM   
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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 2:06:53 AM   
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All of the Combat Mission games (old series and new) are squad-level wargames.


Based on the examples squad level would be the entire size of the force. Individual units would be 1 man/woman.

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I had alot of fun with this one, lots of fire fights with a plethora of weapons and realistic weapon attachments. Yes there was quest playing and money but it was based on tactics. Not too scripted either. Sequel is 7.62 if you speak Russian.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 5:43:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		John Tiller's Campaign series is squad based I believe.


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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 7:55:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Best out there at present is ALFA: Antiterror. Great gameplay and considerable 'realism' if you can adjust to what might be the worst camera controls in the history of gaming. And the usual disaster associated with low-budget Russian to English translations. There's a demo floating about, and you can buy the DD from Gamersgate.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 9:57:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Legion Arena is squad based RTS with RPG elements of equipping your troops and choosing the skills they gain as they level up.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 1:45:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		AS far as boardgames go, the Squad Leader series' a hard one to beat. On the PC, Campaign Series and Combat Mission would fit the bill.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 2:00:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Grell

John Tiller's Campaign series is squad based I believe.


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Greg



Platoon level.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 2:01:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes HPS has a series of Squad Battle games - covering from WWII to Korea and Viet Nam

I have a few of the WWII titles, not too bad I play them every now and then

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 2:07:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wodin


quote:

ORIGINAL: Grell

John Tiller's Campaign series is squad based I believe.


Regards,

Greg



Platoon level.



Hi Wodin,

I thought it was that's why I put "I believe".

Thanks,

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 6:43:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gunny


quote:

ORIGINAL: Paul Roberts

All of the Combat Mission games (old series and new) are squad-level wargames.


Based on the examples squad level would be the entire size of the force. Individual units would be 1 man/woman.

What gunny said. Please, stop repeating CM and the likes.

And another one I remembered:
Star Trek: Away Team

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 8:07:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

Tell me what squad level computer wargames you know. If game has RPG elements (most of those does), I don't forbid it, but avoid the ones like Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights. I know some myself:

Baldur's Gate sucks so much at the RPG level and is so obsessively focused on combat (especially BG2) that actually, it could be called a computer wargame.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/8/2008 8:59:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Judging by Matti's examples, he wants something with each individual soldier represented X-Com style.

I'd like to add Silent Storm from Nival.  While the late game gets a little sci-fi, it's a WW2 setting.  The destructible environment and ragdoll physics are just plain fun as hell.

They used the same setup for their spy game, too.


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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/9/2008 7:00:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		And there is UFO: Alien Invasion, a 3D (Quake2 engine) free squad based UFO clone. Homepage here: http://ufoai.sourceforge.net/

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/9/2008 7:46:57 AM   
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Laser Squad
Laser Squad Nemesis (yuck)
X-Com 1
X-Com 2
X-Com 3 (yuck, unless with my X-Com 3 Revisited mod)
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate II
Icewind Dale
Icewind Dale II
Fallout Tictacs
Red Hammer (banned from my comp and returned to store for Starforce)


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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/9/2008 10:14:44 PM   
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Soldiers at War - Was one of my faves, but doesn't run well on XP unfortunately.
Fallout
101 Airborne
Age of Rifles - Wasn't this squad level or is my memory failing in my old age?
People's Tactices - Was abstract enough to play at a squad level?
Tacops - I know there was no infantry, but units were individual, so perhaps this counts too?
Flashpoint Germany - Same comment as Tacops.

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Never played ASL (too scary), but still have Ambush! and that's awesome to play.


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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/9/2008 10:29:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		What was the Card game version of Squad Leader called?It was a great game,still got mine somewhere.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/9/2008 10:32:06 PM   
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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/9/2008 10:32:34 PM   
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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/9/2008 10:40:13 PM   
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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/11/2008 7:37:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: andym

What was the Card game version of Squad Leader called?It was a great game,still got mine somewhere.


Up Front? Couldn't get my head round the extra level of abstraction in that game.


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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/11/2008 8:20:18 AM   
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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/11/2008 8:23:52 AM   
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Fallout

Fallout isn't squad level. It's individual level.

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/11/2008 5:13:54 PM   
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Payback Time 2
http://www.free-games-net.com/games/paybackt2.shtml

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RE: Squad level wargames - 7/11/2008 5:37:28 PM   
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What was the Card game version of Squad Leader called?It was a great game,still got mine somewhere.


Up Front...MMP bought the rights from AH and is going to publish it again...

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