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RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: exploitation and Russ... - 7/23/2008 2:51:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a new game after certain files were corrected. In it Panzerjaeger only moved CL Helena and USN carriers: he thinks NOT changing anything on the first turn is "better simulation of first day command paralysis." This is the benchmark case to which we can compare other tests in which the Allies adopt different initial strategies. We intend this to be a long game test.



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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger - 7/23/2008 2:53:46 AM   
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The night turn began with Ro-41 hitting a mine at Manila - and is likely not to survive. She is too badly flooded to scuttle. She is making for Legaspi - to try to pump out the water - which while an enemy port we should capture tomorrow. It is probably not wise to sail into Manila - with all its mines.

The next night event was I-173 shelling, torpedoing and sinking AP Jagersfontein at PH. Later in the night she put a torpedo into AP President Johnson = fires, heavy damage.

USS Thresher detected the Kiddo Butai one hex NW of Oahu, and attacked and failed to hit Kaga. 8 IJN destroyers counterattacked - one dropped charges - but she evaded them.

I-165 put a torpedo into AK Fingel at PM. Ro-23 put a torpedo into AMC Kanimbla at Singapore = fires, heavy damage. I-178 put 2 torpedoes and 4 shells into AP Luzon at Cagayan - no doubt fatal damage.

The day turn began with 12 Ki-48s out of Canton causing 6 airbase related hits at HK - no planes lost.

Next 40 unescorted Ki-48s out of Kampong Soam hit Georgetown - met 2 Buffalos on CAP - and fought a strange air battle with one plane damaged on both sides. 1 Blenheim night fighter destroyed on the ground, 7 casualties, 1 gun lost, 4 other hits - the presence of CAP seems to have reduced the damage inflicted.

96 Ki-21s escorted by the 25 Zeros of the Yamada Headquarters Detachment raided Singapore. They met 9 Buffalos - and destroyed them all.
5 bombers were lost and 11 damaged. 8 aircraft destroyed on the ground. 18 50 kg bombs hit 11 ships, 5 were set on fire and 3 were heavily damaged. 41 other hits.

44 Nells out of Takao hit Cagayan, and destroyed 1 B-17 on the ground, 15 other hits. No aircraft lost. 16 Nells out of Cam Rahn immediately repeated the process, and got 2 more B-17s and 10 other hits.

39 Ki-48s & 18 Ki-21s escorted by 135 Zeros out of Takao raided Manila. They met 9 P-40s on CAP. 1 Ki-48, 3 Ki-21 and 1 Zero lost: 10 P-40s and 2 Catalinas destroyed, 30 bomb hits on 25 ships: 13 on fire, 1 heavy damage, 73 casualties, 1 gun lost, 1 vehicle lost, 25 other hits.

51 Bettys escorted by 45 Zeros - also out of Takao - raided Clark Field. 4 Bettys and 2 Zeros lost. 30 fighters and 4 B-17s destroyed. 17 casualties and 135 other hits - but the base was STILL combat effective. There were 19 Allied fighters of 4 types on CAP.





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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger - 7/23/2008 3:18:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		36 Vals and 69 Kates escorted by 13 Zeros made the morning raid on PH. 4 Vals and 14 Kates were lost. Only 4 P-40s on CAP.
94 aircraft destroyed - of which 90 were on the ground. 10 bombs and 5 torpedoes hit 4 battleships and CL Honolulu. 125 other hits.
All bombs hits on shps were 800 kg. All four BB were set on fire and West Virginia was heavily damaged. Then 10 Ki-51s caused
19 casualties to the same unit. Then 32 bombers of 2 types caused 38 casualties and 1 gun lost to the same unit.

24 Vals and 22 Kates - unescorted - went to PH for an anti ship strike and put 12 bombs into DD Litchfield - sinking her.
3 P-40s on CAP - and AAA - caused no losses for the Japanese. Then 24 Vals and 24 Kates - escorted by 70 Zeros - went back to PH -
shot down all 3 P-40s on CAP - and put a torpedo and 12 bombs into AV Wright.
18 vals put 10 bombs into AP President Johnson - at PH.







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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger - 7/23/2008 3:22:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		In China 51 JAAF bombers of 2 types caused 115 casualties to the Miscelaneous Northern Factions 13th Field Army.
32 JAAF bombers of 2 types caused 53 casualties and 1 gun lost to the Hopei Militia Regiment.

32 Ki-51s attacked Hong Kong- lost 3 with 2 more damaged - and did no damage - in a victory for British AAA.

10 Kates and 5 Jakes caused 41 casualties and 3 vehicles lost to the Guam Insular Force.

19 Nells out of Cam Rahn Bay caused 19 casualties and 1 gun lost to the Brunei Fortress. 1 bomber lost.

11 Kates from the CVE force at Legaspi put a torpedo and 2 bombs into PG Isabel - at Manila- sinking her.
3 Kates went back - putting a bomb into PG Mindinao, setting her on fire.

31 JAAF bombers of 2 types but 15 bombs into PG Peteral - at Shanghai causing fires and heavy damage.
She was set on fire with heavy damage.




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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger - 7/23/2008 3:42:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		The afternoon phase began with a CVE strike on 2 ships at Cebu. 10 Kates put 2 bombs into
AK Norse Carrier but missed another AK. Later 4 Kates went back and put a torpedo into her.
Later still 7 Kates missed AK Panay. At the end of the phase 7 Kates and 3 Mikes went to Manila -
encountered 15 P-40s - and failed to hit AK Ben Nevis. 2 Kates and 1 Mike lost.

Next 35 Army Kates (actually B5Ms called Ki-47s) out of Bako, the Pescadores hit HK.
2 were lost and 32 airbase related hits scored.

The afternoon KB strike on Oahu bases was by 36 Vals and 25 Kates - unescorted.
By now there was not CAP opposition - but the flak was much worse. 8 Vals and 1 Kate were lost.
12 aircraft destroyed on the ground. 55 other hits.

21 Bettys raided Johnston Island - met no opposition - but scored only 1 runway hit - in spite of
low 5000 foot altitude.

21 Nells raided Wake. They met 8 F4F-3s on CAP. 1 bomber was lost. 2 hits scored - and 1 fighter was
damaged by defensive fire. Both ships hit were set on fire.

3 Vildebeeste out of HK missed AK Ayo Maru at Swatow.

31 JAAF bombers of 2 types put 10 bombs into PG Peteral at Singapore.

The Ni Butai (CVL force or "two force") near Johnston Island sent 54 Kates and 34 Mike (Me-109T) against USS Indianapolis
and her DMS force. 5 torpedoes into CA Indianapolis, 1 bomb into DMS Dorsey, 3 DMS missed. 12 Kates came in later and
missed entirely.

KB sent 23 Vals into PH to put 6 bombs into AVD McFarland. Later 24 Vals and 11 Kates put 18 bombs into AK Lahaina.
She sank before the torpedo bombers got to drop. Later 37 Kates put 2 torpedoes into AK Minini.

2 Jakes - from AV at Brunei - missed an AK at Miri




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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger - 7/23/2008 3:59:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		End of the day attacks had I-165 at PM put 2 torpedoes into AK Fingel - causing fires and heavy damge - and evenutal sinking.

PG Wake and IMN Hai Wei managed to miss each other in a desultry surface action at Shanghai.

I-14 put 2 torpedoes and 2 shells into AK Halaikalea at Christmas Island - she sank shortly therafter.

2 CA and 2 "15 gun light" CL bombarded Rabaul. 119 casualties, 6 guns lost, 1 vehicle lost, 7 other hits. 4 CD shots fired in defense.

Lahaina managed to do better - getting off 52 shots against 9 of the many ships in range - hitting one = ML Ginyo Maru.

Japanese landings were unopposed at Tarawa, Johnston, Legaspi, Kavieng, Kona, Aparri, Guam, Hollandia, Cagayan, Stroeng Trang and Buin.

Wake's USMC defenders fired 358 shots in defense. They scored 18 hits on 4 ships, setting 2 on fire, 1 with heavy damage.
Rabaul fired 19 shots in defense, scoring one hit each on 2 ships.
Brunei fired 39 shots, scoring only one hit, but it set DM Hatsutaka on fire.

Ground assault achieved 19:1 at Wake, capturing the base and destroying 6 F-4F3s.

Ground assault forced 3 units to retreat from Sinyang, Central China. 707 Japanese to 288 Allied casualties.

Ground assault at HK achieved a surprising 1:1 odds - and reduced fortifications to 5. 656 Japanese, 14 Allied casualties.

Ground assault at Rabaul was completely ineffective - so was the defense - no casualties on either side.
The same thing happened at Brunei when Allies attacked landing troops.

Unopposed Tarawa fell to ground assault.

Unopposed Ye fell to airborne assault.

Ground assault achieved 27:1 odds at Johnston I and captured it - 1246 casualties and 6 guns lost for the Allies.

Airborne assault at Tavoy Burma failed to take the place. Nevertheless - the fortification level was reduced and the Allies had
8 casualties.


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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger - 7/23/2008 4:19:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		One enemy carrier force seems to be near French Frigate Shoals. I split KB - and half of it will attempt to cut off retreat to the NE by this carrier.

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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: battle surface - 7/25/2008 11:38:35 AM   
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The second day involved vast numbers of surface battles - day and night - and one of the longest replays I have ever seen.
Panzerjaeger stayed in port on the first turn - but emerged on the second - by which time a number of forces were close enough that some contacts were inevitable.

The night turn began with CD units at Lahaina firing 22 shots at 4 ships - and hitting DE Kuri.
Other landings opposed by CD fire were at Rabaul and Brunei, but only the latter managed to hurt the
invaders: 46 shots at 4 ships, 4 hits on 3 ships, 1 set on fire.

Other landings occurred at Kavieng, Aparri, Legaspi, Kona, Cagayan, and Stroeng Trang

DD Blue and DD Helm detected, localized, attacked and hit (twice) I-172 near Molokai. Later in the night
I-172 put a torpedo into AO Sapulga, but got hit again when engaged by her 5 escorts. Still later in the
night she was detected but missed.

I-153 put 2 torpedoes into CL Marblehead. 5 DD counterattacked, and one of them scored a hit on the sub.

USS Guedgon was detected and attacked by 4 escorts at Lahaina, but not hit.

I-13 missed 3 APs near Canton Island.

I-9 put 2 torpedoes into AK Vitorlock at Rangoon. Later she repeated this vs
AK Federlock. During the day she put 2 more fish into Vitorlock -sinking her
shortly thereafter - and used up her torpedos - so she must go home to get more.

Badly damaged Ro-41 - trying to go home after hitting a mine the day before - was detected and attacked by DD
John D Ford at the entrance of Manila Bay - but not hit.

I-158 missed AK Panay at Cebu.



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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: battle surface - 7/25/2008 11:54:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		The first surface battle of the night pitted BB Yamato, BB Mutsu and BB Nagato (unescorted) against CL Boise near Cebu. In spite of superb leader ratings, Boise achieved tactical surprise and scored many hits on Mutsu and Nagato - setting both on fire - as well as one hit on Yamato - which apparently didn't notice (ops damage zero). But eventually secondary guns found her - and 11 hits set her on fire as well. The ships then broke off - for a moment. The Japanese reformed and immediately re-engaged - and achieved tactical surprise: Boise was sunk by 18 more shell hits - most of them 16.1 inch. [In this mod Yamato has twelve 16 inch guns - the same weapon as all other Japanese battleships use in this scenario. This means Yamato is far more deadly than in her 18 inch gun form. Many of the 27 designs for Yamato contemplated using this weapon.] The three BB then went on to sink 3 AKs in separate fights - and to shell the port - damaging 4 more ships in port with 9 hits (3 heavy damage) - 103 casualties - 16 other hits.

Two ancient RN DD - Scout and Thanet - raided Takao Formosa - where they encountered a cruiser destroyer group returning home.
CA Nachi and CA Ashigara and 6 DD put 23 rounds each into the DD - also one torpedo each - sinking both outright - while only CA Ashigara was hit (and not damaged) by return fire.

A rare Japanese PT boat unit engaged an AK at Miri - and both sides scored a single minor hit - and then fled.

CA Minneapolis led 6 DD (two of them old DMS) into Kona - to disrupt the landing force there. This force had a single DE, and a large auxiliary ML with 5.5 inch guns - 2 AP and 2 AK. DE Hokaze put one shell into a DD. AK Kano Maru took 6 hits and a torpedo - and naturally was badly damaged. AP Awata Maru took 1 hit. The forces then disengaged for a moment.

3 RN PT units (PT units have 3 boats in RHS) engaged 6 AP in the Formosa Strait - without effect.

4 PG and 1 DMS engaged PG Wake at Shanghai - putting 5 4.7 inch shells into her.

3 modern USN CL with 6 DD and 1 DMS raided Lanai - and cought ML Ginyo Maru alone - aborting her mission. She took 31 shell hits - but survived - and dished out 3 hit in return: 2 on CL Honolulu and 1 on DD Cassin.

4 cruisers and 6 DD bombarded Rabaul putting 2 shells into an AK in port and causing 61 casualties, 1 gun lost and 22 other hits. 2 of the cruisers were in 15 six inch gun Brooklyn type layout - the other 2 were 10 eight inch gun typical Japanese CA. [In this scenario the six inch gun ships were not converted to 8 inch turrets]



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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: battle surface - 7/25/2008 12:17:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The day turn began also at Lahaina - where 12 CD shots resulted in 2 hits on AK Kanto Maru.

Unopposed landings occurred at Aparri, Legaspi, Cagayan and Kavieng (but NOT at Kona - which ships had aborted their landings).

Strangely others were not opposed at Rabaul and Brunei.

I-23 missed 2 destroyers near Hawaii.

I-153 missed a Dutch ML in the NEI. So did Ro-28.

USN S-29 missed an AK near Legaspi. 1 ASW armed CL and 6 DD attacked her - scoring one hit.

I-158 put four fish into AK Norse Carrier at Cebu - sinking her shortly thereafter.

I-165 missed CL Adelaide at PM.

Ro-24 sank AK Kiangsu at Singapore with 2 torpedoes and 2 shells.





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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: battle surface - 7/26/2008 1:18:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		26 Ki-48s out of Kampong Soam (escorted by 2 Zeros) raided Alor Star: no CAP: 73 casualties, 2 guns lost, 1 vehicle lost, 15 other hits.

11 Ki-48s escorted by 12 Zeros raided Georgetown - CAP = 5 Buffalos: 5 Buffalos shot down - but no other damage or losses.

49 Nells and 27 Bettys raided Clark: No CAP - 9 aircraft destroyed on the ground - 13 casualties - 1 vehicle lost - 81 other hits.

A JAAF attack on the 50th Guerilla Regiment was ineffective.

3 JAAF attacks on the Hopei Militia Regiment caused 13, 0 and 26 casualties, respectively.

A JAAF attack on the Hong Kong Fortress cost 1 Ki-27 destroyed for no damage done.
The AAA is still effective at HK.

A JNAF attack out of Truk on the Lark Force Battalion at Rabaul caused 13 casualties and 1 gun lost.

A JNAF attack on the Guam Insular Force caused 15 casualties and 2 guns lost.

25 Nells out of Cam Rahn Bay caused 30 casualties to the Brunei Fortress unit.

3 B-17s missed and AV and a DD at Cagayan. 6 Petes on CAP didn't stop them but probably reduced the hit chances.
Immediately after 3 Hudsons missed the same AV at the same place.

2 B-10s missed an AP at Brunei. Immediately after 3 Hudsons missed an AK at the same place.

13 Kates and 8 Vals (escorted by 28 Zeros) attacked USS California east of the Big Island of Hawaii. They scored 7 bomb hits
and 2 torpedo hits, causing fires and heavy damage. In the same area 6 Kates put a torpedo into DM Pruitt, but missed another DM.

30 Ki-47 (Army Kates) and 7 Ki-51s put 13 small bombs into PG Cicala near Shanghai. 21 more Ki-51s came in on her, but could not find her any more (= she was sunk).

12 Kates put a torpedo into AS Canopus at San Jose [Mindoro] but missed an AK in company with her.

4 Kates missed AK Hai Lea at Manila. Immediately thereafter 13 more Kates went into Manila and put 1 bomb each into two PGs, but missed AP President Johnston entirely. Then 18 Nells out of Formosa put a total of five 250 kg bombs into 3 PG at the same place.

2 Jakes missed an AK at Miri. Later in the day, they repeated this. They flew off ships landing at Brunei.

8 Ju-88s and 12 Nells put 2 torpedoes and 7 bombs into AK Federlock at Rangoon.

30 Kates raided HK and descroyed one transport on the ground and caused 24 other hits. 1 Kate damaged. Immediately thereafter this entire battle was recreated EXACTLY - to the last detail!!!

28 Zeros swept Singapore but met no CAP and there were no losses on either side.

3 Hudsons missed CL Kiso at Cagayan. CAP = 6 Petes.

2 B-10s missed an AP at Brunei. CAP = 7 Petes.

3 B-17s missed CLAA Ioshima at sea East of Luzon.



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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: battle surface - 7/26/2008 6:00:39 PM   
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Near Manila, 4 Kates missed DD John D Ford. Then 7 Kates put a bomb into AS Canopus near San Jose (Mindoro).





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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: battle surface - 7/26/2008 6:05:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Four divisions of PT boats sailed into Lahaina by day, but were tactically surprised, and one unit was sunk by the Main Body. In spite of that, they managed to torpedo CL Jintsu, which has heavy damage. Later in the day there was a rematch - and another division of PT boats was lost. Although Matrix tried to fix the problem several times in UV days - and GG said it would be fixed - PT boat units (which are too shallow) took a torpedo hit in this battle.

Then PG Sonoma sailed into Kona, discovered the five ship landing Task Unit there, and was engaged by it - being hit 23 times before withdrawing with heavy damage. This seemingly failed operation ALSO resulted in abandoning of landing operations, and the Japanese Task Unit fled one hex - only to run into CL USS Helena and 2 DD. These inflicted 28 hits on DE Hokaze, 9 hits on ML Syoka Maru and 6 more hits on 2 APs. Hokaze and Syoka Maru dished out a bit in return, hittign all three ships with a total of 8 shells, and setting both DD on fire. Hokaze and one AP are heavily damaged while Syoka Maru is on fire.

2 CA, two 15 gun CL, and 6 DD bombarded Rabaul. One AK in port was hit and set on fire. 59 casualties, 1 gun lost, 1 vehicle lost, 18 other hits.

I-23 torpedoed AO Sapulga at sea near Hawaii.

13000 men attacked the coast defense unit on Lahaina, achieved 413:1 odds, and captured the hex. The defenders retreated to Molokai.

Almost 8000 men attacked the air base force at Cagayan, achieved 61:1 odds, and captured the hex. 6 B-17s were destroyed on the ground.

The Japanese SNLF abandoned at Kona nevertheless managed to capture the undefended port. It has no supplies.

4500 men (exactly) of the Nanyo Detachment captured Rabaul in a shock attack. It is unusual for Rabaul to fall on the first attack - but air and naval bombardment (and luck) all contributed. 1462 Allied casualties when the static defense unit surrendered. Lark Force Battalion retreated.

Almost 43000 men attacked Hong Kong and achieved 2:1 odds - and reduced fortifications to 4. It is also unusual to obtain multiple odds on the second day - or to reduce fortifications to 4 on the second assault. Hong Kong may fall on the third assault - which is likely in 2 more days - and that is no where near history's Christmas Day. The casualty radio is about even - another indicator HK is going to lose soon. The supply sink - which is inside the static Hong Kong unit and not depleted in morale or leadership like dedicated supply sinks are - is not causing a long defense (which once was a problem).

Almost 11000 men took Aparri from its small battalion of defenders.

Kavieng was taken from K Force - which is a fraction of the Australian 2nd Independent Company - by a combined force of 3 small units totaling over 4000 men.

Naval Landing Parties captured Legaspi, Buin, Hollandia, and Viet Tri (Tonkin, Indochina).

Allied bombardment at Brunei was ineffective.

A small party from the First Raiding Regiment of the First Raiding Brigade captured Tavoy, Burma - forcing its defending air support unit to retreat. 5 Japanese casualties and 1 gun lost of the 451 man landing force.




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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: aftermath - 7/29/2008 9:00:58 AM   
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The night turn began with Ro-34 putting a torpedo into DD John D Ford as it tried to esacpe South from Manila Bay. This is not the last we will hear of this ship.

Tit for tat, USS Triton torpedoed AP Konron Maru SE of Wake Island. I had to scuttle her to save victory points - something I don't like to do. The only thing I can say for her is she had completed her first (and now only) wartime mission.

Awata Maru - withdrawing in damaged condition from the actions with cruisers the night before off Kona - was intercepted by USS Pennsylvania - wholly undamaged - in company with former battleship Utah (now an AA training ship - probably with most batteries disabled) - equally undamaged CA New Orleans and CL St Louis and 5 DD - for a remarkably one sided suface action - being sunk without ever scoring a hit on her tormenters. Presumably there was a lot of anger over the PH attack - and this was payback: everyone got in on the 36 hits.

CL Adelaide detected I-165 at PM - but she submerged and was immune to being attacked. Later during the night I-165 tried to torpedo Adelaide, but missed - again.

Ro-31 shelled and torpedoed (and sank) AK Kalgan near Singapore.



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RE: RHSEBO Test 11C vs Panzerjaeger: aftermath - 7/29/2008 9:27:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		The day turn opened with an air strike on Rangoon by 15 Sallys escorted by 42 JAAF fighters of 2 types. They met 8 Buffalos on CAP - shot down 4 before the rest bugged out - and scored 17 hits. Next, 12 Ju-88s and 12 Nells came in escorted by 12 Zeros - but there was no CAP this time - and 13 more hits were scored. These hit rates are not impressive.

Then 20 Allied bombers of 2 types - out of Alor Star - escorted by 8 fighters of 2 types - hit Singora. Due to an oversight - there was no land based CAP - it was all out escorting raids - so only 4 Petes resisted in the air. Instead of going for ships - they trageted the air base - and scored 28 casualties, 1 gun lost, 1 vehicle lost, and 12 hits - not very impressive given the upwards of 200,000 men and other targets in the hex. Then 6 Hudsons came in from Georgetown - met the same 4 Petes - ignored them - and scored a single hit.

At the same time, 25 Ki-51s from Singora hit Alor Star - meeting no CAP because HIS fighters were also on escort duty. 4 were lost (dive bombers are opposed by everything - even MMG - which abound in RHS) - 9 casualties, 1 vehicle lost, 12 other hits. Immediately afterward, 48 Ki-48s and a dozen Zeros (out of Cambodia) came in on the same target - also met no CAP - destroyed a Blenheim on the ground - 32 casualties, 1 gun lost, 1 vehicle lost, 48 other hits.

30 Zeros of the Yamada DHD swept Singapore. They met 18 Buffalos on CAP - and shot down 6 before the rest gave up trying to fight. This came out of Soc Trang - the only base in range. 20 Ki-51s out of Canton caused 15 casualties and 1 gun lost at HK. This was the secondary mission - the force was hoping to spot one of the enemy carriers. A follow up strike on the same force revealed the 2 AKs "could not be found".

9 Ki-51s and 30 Ki-43 Is out of Bangkok attacked the RAF No 2 Forward Air Station remnant in the Jungle just West of the City. They were ineffective (reminds me of attacking Viet Cong in the jungle in Viet Nam).

44 Zeros tried the same trick at Manila - but met no CAP - ALL his fighters were assigned naval strike missions - so no air battle at all.

A JAAF strike on the 50th Guerilla Regiment caused 3 casualties and 1 gun lost. Another on the 52nd Guerilla Regiment
caused 30 casualties and 1 gun lost. Two more on the Hopei Militia Regiment caused 9 and 28 casualties respectively.

5 Swordfish then had a go at Singora - but aimed for ships. They also ignored the Petes on CAP - and went home vs CA Kako and DD Shirakumo - but they missed. 7 Blenheims followed up - and missed DD Yunagi at the same place. Near the same place - but at sea in the Gulf of Siam - 3 more Blenheims missed AK Eisho.

The fast wing of the KB (Shokaku, Zuikaku and Hiryu) launched 24 Vals, 24 Kates and 18 Zeros vs a transport group well NE of Hawaii. They
scored 9 torpedo and 10 bomb hits on 3 ships - missing AVD Avocet altogehter - but sinking AO Neosho and 2 AKs. The other wing of the KB was at Lahaina - and although there were many land and carrier based planes there - all the Hawaiian islands were socked in - so there were no strikes (although there was search and ASW air). Later 24 Kates put 2 fish into DM Pruitt - sinking her so she could not be found any more. Then 21 Kates put 4 fish into AK Hoegh Merchant, also sinking her outright.

2 Divisions of RN PT boats - after striking at Bako the previous day - continued up the China coast - no one knows why? These were found and straffed by Claudes out of Formosa - but not hit.

SW of Formosa - West of Luzon - in the South China Sea - gunboats Tutulia and Moth were hit by a major strike out of Bako and Takao.
Moth took 3 torpedoes, 5 bombs and 4 shell hits from strafers - and of course was sunk. Tutulia "only" took 8 shell hits - some of these 7.7 mm - and one bomb - and survived - for a moment.

A similar strike on 3 PG in the same area put a torpedo into 2 of them - Luzon and Asheville - while Oahu was missed entirely.

A tiny strike by 3 Ki-48s put a bomb into AK Gertrude Kellog - in the same general area.

Note: I had focused on counter naval strikes to address the fact he was being aggressive with gunboats and PT boats - and also in hopes of preventing transports from escaping to do service in other areas. This naturally came at the expense of counter air strikes vs land bases.

5 Ki-48s out of the new base at Legaspi put a bomb into AP President Madison near San Jose (Mindoro) - so named because there is another San Jose nearby.







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The day turn opened with an air strike on Rangoon by 15 Sallys escorted by 42 JAAF fighters of 2 types. They met 8 Buffalos on CAP - shot down 4 before the rest bugged out - and scored 17 hits. Next, 12 Ju-88s and 12 Nells came in escorted by 12 Zeros - but there was no CAP this time - and 13 more hits were scored. These hit rates are not impressive.

Then 20 Allied bombers of 2 types - out of Alor Star - escorted by 8 fighters of 2 types - hit Singora. Due to an oversight - there was no land based CAP - it was all out escorting raids - so only 4 Petes resisted in the air. Instead of going for ships - they trageted the air base - and scored 28 casualties, 1 gun lost, 1 vehicle lost, and 12 hits - not very impressive given the upwards of 200,000 men and other targets in the hex. Then 6 Hudsons came in from Georgetown - met the same 4 Petes - ignored them - and scored a single hit.

At the same time, 25 Ki-51s from Singora hit Alor Star - meeting no CAP because HIS fighters were also on escort duty. 4 were lost (dive bombers are opposed by everything - even MMG - which abound in RHS) - 9 casualties, 1 vehicle lost, 12 other hits. Immediately afterward, 48 Ki-48s and a dozen Zeros (out of Cambodia) came in on the same target - also met no CAP - destroyed a Blenheim on the ground - 32 casualties, 1 gun lost, 1 vehicle lost, 48 other hits.

30 Zeros of the Yamada DHD swept Singapore. They met 18 Buffalos on CAP - and shot down 6 before the rest gave up trying to fight. This came out of Soc Trang - the only base in range. 20 Ki-51s out of Canton caused 15 casualties and 1 gun lost at HK. This was the secondary mission - the force was hoping to spot one of the enemy carriers. A follow up strike on the same force revealed the 2 AKs "could not be found".

9 Ki-51s and 30 Ki-43 Is out of Bangkok attacked the RAF No 2 Forward Air Station remnant in the Jungle just West of the City. They were ineffective (reminds me of attacking Viet Cong in the jungle in Viet Nam).

44 Zeros tried the same trick at Manila - but met no CAP - ALL his fighters were assigned naval strike missions - so no air battle at all.

A JAAF strike on the 50th Guerilla Regiment caused 3 casualties and 1 gun lost. Another on the 52nd Guerilla Regiment
caused 30 casualties and 1 gun lost. Two more on the Hopei Militia Regiment caused 9 and 28 casualties respectively.

5 Swordfish then had a go at Singora - but aimed for ships. They also ignored the Petes on CAP - and went home vs CA Kako and DD Shirakumo - but they missed. 7 Blenheims followed up - and missed DD Yunagi at the same place. Near the same place - but at sea in the Gulf of Siam - 3 more Blenheims missed AK Eisho.

The fast wing of the KB (Shokaku, Zuikaku and Hiryu) launched 24 Vals, 24 Kates and 18 Zeros vs a transport group well NE of Hawaii. They
scored 9 torpedo and 10 bomb hits on 3 ships - missing AVD Avocet altogehter - but sinking AO Neosho and 2 AKs. The other wing of the KB was at Lahaina - and although there were many land and carrier based planes there - all the Hawaiian islands were socked in - so there were no strikes (although there was search and ASW air). Later 24 Kates put 2 fish into DM Pruitt - sinking her so she could not be found any more. Then 21 Kates put 4 fish into AK Hoegh Merchant, also sinking her outright.

2 Divisions of RN PT boats - after striking at Bako the previous day - continued up the China coast - no one knows why? These were found and straffed by Claudes out of Formosa - but not hit.

SW of Formosa - West of Luzon - in the South China Sea - gunboats Tutulia and Moth were hit by a major strike out of Bako and Takao.
Moth took 3 torpedoes, 5 bombs and 4 shell hits from strafers - and of course was sunk. Tutulia "only" took 8 shell hits - some of these 7.7 mm - and one bomb - and survived - for a moment.

A similar strike on 3 PG in the same area put a torpedo into 2 of them - Luzon and Asheville - while Oahu was missed entirely.

A tiny strike by 3 Ki-48s put a bomb into AK Gertrude Kellog - in the same general area.

Note: I had focused on counter naval strikes to address the fact he was being aggressive with gunboats and PT boats - and also in hopes of preventing transports from escaping to do service in other areas. This naturally came at the expense of counter air strikes vs land bases.

5 Ki-48s out of the new base at Legaspi put a bomb into AP President Madison near San Jose (Mindoro) - so named because there is another San Jose nearby.

19 Kates from the CVE force near Legaspi then put no less than 16 250 kg bombs into TK Ebonol - which didn't sink her because she is a tanker (which in RHS means lots of durability) - but she surely is doomed to burn out or flood out.



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No less than 30 P-40s out of Manila then struck at ships at Aparri. Here there was mixed CAP including 1 Pete, 4 Claudes and 5 Me-109s - not sure how that happened??? Anyway - they shot down 2 P-40s - and the remainder all missed AK Nasusan Maru and CL Tenryu in CLAA form.
This ship was not effective however - causing neither damage nor loss to the attackers - who seem to have missed mainly because they are not skilled at this sort of attack (SOP for Army pilots in 1941).

The fast wing of KB then sent 16 Vals and 66 Kates at what may have been an ASW group of four ships NE of Hawaii. The Vals all missed - but 11 torpedoes were put into the ships - PG Ontario and DMS Wasmith beign sunk. Then 24 more Vals put 18 bombs into 2 AKs in the same area. One is surely lost. Next 26 Vals put 5 bombs each into 2 DM in the very same hex - but a different TF.

15 Bettys on a very long range strike managed to put another torpedo into DD John D Ford - already suffering from a submarine torpedo hit the night before. Presumably she is in trouble. AP Basilan was missed in the same attack.

A follow up strike on PG Moth failed to find her - no doubt because she was sunk.



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Ro-34 did better - putting 2 fish into PG Napa - which I think sank later.

Landing craft landed troops on River Port Raheng, Thailand. They could get there faster than the longer overland route - and this base needs to be built up to a Level 3 port - so supply becomes more automatic (down the Thai river system) - if we also build up the isolated port SW of it.
That port - called Stroeng Trang - was landed on yesterday - and captured by ground assault today. We sent engineers today to start building the ports up - also by river vessels - Stroeng Trang being isolated from the land rail net.

2 Japanese divisions attacked 2 Field Armies on the rail line West from Shanghai. Unusually - they failed to push them back - 873 to 201 casualties - and both divisions were demoralized. We will rest, reinforce, and try again in two days.






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Ro-33 missed AK Hai Lea with torpedos - but got two 3 inch hits on AK Hai Lea near Olongapo (the mouth of Manila Bay).

Ro-34 did better - putting 2 fish into PG Napa - which I think sank later.

Landing craft landed troops on River Port Raheng, Thailand. They could get there faster than the longer overland route - and this base needs to be built up to a Level 3 port - so supply becomes more automatic (down the Thai river system) - if we also build up the isolated port SW of it.
That port - called Stroeng Trang - was landed on yesterday - and captured by ground assault today. We sent engineers today to start building the ports up - also by river vessels - Stroeng Trang being isolated from the land rail net.

2 Japanese divisions attacked 2 Field Armies on the rail line West from Shanghai. Unusually - they failed to push them back - 873 to 201 casualties - and both divisions were demoralized. We will rest, reinforce, and try again in two days.

42 000 Japanese engaged just under 1/3 that number of Allies at Hong Kong. They achieved 2:1 odds - but the fortified position fell. Fortifications reduced to 3 - and this is about the best that can be expected - although rarely HK falls sooner. It probably will fall tomorrow - the 4th day - in spite of the presence of a medium sized (and organic - not imatiated) supply sink in the garrison. Supply sinks of this size are not a problem - even without demoralizing them. IRL HK fell on Christmas Day ("black Chrismas" they still call it there) - and it never holds out that long in the game - in spite of a beefed up garrison with all its auxiliaries - and the Canadians.

A ground assault on the 52nd Guerilla Regiment in East China forced it to retreat - isolating the Hopei Militia Regiment. Then a ground assault on that unit - weakened by many air strikes for three days - surrendered: 1846 casualties and 10 guns lost.

We continue to fly in airborne troops and the airborne air base force to Tavoy, Burma. Other air support is flying into Pisanoluke Thailand - too far North to be reached yet by rail reinforcements. We are setting the stage for early operations into Burma.

We had a problem with the drive on Alor Star. Landing troops messed up the advancing division - so it reset to zero movement. The attack on Kota Bahru will come in two days - the division going that longer distance from Singora was not similarly disrupted - and is most of the way there.

We will try to trap the ships fleeing NE from Hawaii between a hammer and an anvil - to arms of KB - plus land based air on Lahaina.
We will let Pennsylvania group escape to the SE - catching it would not be worth the engine damage nor the fuel required - and we must secure the lower islands.






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The night turn began with Ro-33 sinking PG Oahu at the entrance to Manila Bay. 3 torpedo hits insured she must sink - and she did.

7 IJN River Gunboats engaged Wake at Shanghai - scoring one hit. She seemed not to sink - but there was so much flooding and fires from previous air and surface engagements - eventually she did. Wake was in horrible condition to start with - and was left at Shanghai only to provide radio service for the US Consulate there. She never escapes.

Ro-34 torpedoed AO Trinity SW of Luzon

Unknown assailants attacked I-23 (at Canton or some other Central Pacific Island) - but failed to localize and drop on her.

Dutch KXVII - in the Gulf of Siam - torpedoed and shelled AP Ryugi Maru - which I was forced to scuttle later due to no speed and no hope of making Bangkok for repairs. I have spotted her since day one and evaded contact with most convoys - but this one entered her hex - and she saw them - even at night.

CL Adelaide spotted I-12 at PM - but could not engage her.






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5 Whirraways came in on Singora with 3 Buffalos and 11 Blenheim night fighters in company - found 4 Petes and 12 Ki-41s on CAP - penetrated the CAP and destroyed 2 light bombers on the ground, caused 10 casualties, 1 vehicle lost and 5 other hits. 2 Allied aircraft shot down and 5 damaged by fighter and AAA defenses

21 Ki-41s swept Georgetown - met 3 Buffalos - but amazingly everyone went home OK - mainly because the Buffalos bugged out on the first pass.

43 Zeros swept Manila - met no CAP - and accomplished nothing.

2 JAAF strikes on the Red 47th Guerilla Regiment caused 12 and 51 casualties respectively. 2 more on the ROC 50th Guerilla Regiment caused 13 casualties and 1 gun lost (first) and no damage (2nd). 2 more on the 50th Guerilla Regiment caused 24 casualties and 2 guns lost (1st) and 16 casualties and 2 guns lost (2nd).

A JNAF attack out of Saipan caused 13 casualties and 1 gun lost to the Guam Insular Force

9 Ki-51s attacked the RAF 2nd Forward Air Station on the RR West of Bangkok - but failed to hit anything in the jungle terrain.

3 IL-4s from Chunking raided Bako - met 15 fighters of 2 types (Army and Navy) - and bugged out. Later 6 more tried again - met 31 fighters this time - and 4 were damaged before they gave up and bugged out. 1 Ki-27 also was damaged by defensive fire.

3 B-17s and 2 P-40s out of Manila missed IJN Yamato in the Visayas.

4 Swordfish - boldly forward based at Victoria Point - put a bomb into AP Ryugi Maru in the Gulf of Siam. Later 3 more put 2 bombs into AP Jinsan Maru in the same area.

3 Nells out of Lahaina missed AVD Avocet NE of Hawaii. Later 10 more put 3 large 250 kg bombs into AO Neosho in the same area.

11 Ki-21s in their first raid of the Central Pacific campaign, also out of Lahaina, raided PH - unescorted (bad idea) - met no less than 38 Allied fighters of 3 types - which proceeded to chew them up. AAA chewed up more. 6 were lost. In spite of this - they put 2 small 50 kg bombs into ML Oglala. 6 more put 4 bombs into AO Sapulga NE of Hawaii.

Two divisions of RN PT boats made it all the way to Wenchow China - a rare Allied base. But - after the long transit from HK unharmed - there they were attacked by a dozen Claudes out of Formosa - each taking 8 gun hits - from the 20 mm armed version of Claude we use here -
and one also took a small bomb hit.

3 Ki-48s out of the new base at Legaspi put 3 bombs into AO Pecos at Manila. They missed another AO entirely. Later 6 more put 3 more bombs into the same target.

15 Betty's out of Indochina torpedoed and sank ML Somenop in the South China Sea. 4 more missed an AP.

13 SOVIET Lagg-3 out of Suchen missed AK Shinju Maru offshore. We have protested - but the ship was too close to Soviet territory.

One wing of the KB sent 25 Vals and 41 Zeros after BB California - which seemed undamaged. She took 13 hits - and later sank. Next it sent 24 Vals and 22 Kates against CA Minneapolis and 2 DDs. They missed the DDs but put 5 bombs and 3 torpedoes into the cruiser. 22 Zeros flew escort. Next 23 Vals and 22 Kates - covered by 4 Zeros - put 9 more bombs into her - missed a DD - and put 2 bombs into DMS Lamberton. The cruiser sank by the end of the day.

The other wing of the KB sent 16 Vals and 20 Kates against BB Maryland - putting 5 bombs and 3 torpedoes into her - but while she seemed to sink ("target not found") - she is not listed as sunk. Regardless - she is doomed - too slow to escape the too near KB. The same force sent 7 Vals to attack, hit and sink DMS Tracy.






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Status: offline 		BB Yamato - with 7 DD in company - ran into AS Canopus at sea - and sank her with 3 heavy shell hits at long range.

I-171 put 2 fish into ML Oglala near PH. She already was burning from 2 bomb hits earlier in the day.

Ground assault achieved 3:1 odds and captured Brunei from the static defense force there - demoralized by air strikes.

Ground assault achieved 5:1 odds and captured Guam from the static Guam Insular Force - also demoralized by air strikes.

Ground assault achieved 17:1 odds vs a ROC Guerilla Regiment in East China - forcing it to retreat.

Ground assault achieved 2:1 odds at Hong Kong - reduced it 2 fortification levels - and for the first time caused more Allied than Japanese casualties (244, 8 guns, 1 vehicle for Japan, 404, 10 guns, 4 vehicles for the Allies - a bloody fight) - but the island will hold another day at least.

Ground assault by an unreinforced reserve (Yobeiki) regiment near the Incochina border achieved only 2:1 odds - but forced the enemy to retreat anyway.

Ground assault vs the Hopei Militia Regiment - whose retreat was cut off by an earlier battle above - caused it to retreat anyway (don't ask me how - or even where it went? - but I like the guerilla units behaviors)

Here is another mistery - and compound disaster. Yesterday 2 Japanese divisions on the rail line West of Shanghai were stopped cold when they attacked - usually they force a retreat. Today a force of 19000 Chinese - in 3 Field Armies - shock attacked over 39000 Japanese -
and forced both divisions to retreat! Lacking any supply source - I assume they are eating their supplies - and I sent 3 fresh divisions into the hex. Stilll - it is a spectacular event.





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To be premature - the turn included a land based air strike on the same AK that was attacked the day before - but this time she was hit by a bomb - and is not likely to survive. This caused the matter - previously handled by diplomats - to be handed over to Kwangtung Army - which will conduct a strong (but strictly limited) reprisal air raid on the offending air base (Suchen). A military note was sent to make it clear that the withdrawall of forces from border areas - and from theater - is continuing for another 24 hours. But if there is ANY Soviet attack in that period - the whole concept will be reviewed.

The night turn began with CA Pensacola - and old "paper thin" armored ship considered for conversion to a CVL because she is unsuitable for cruiser use - hitting a sub laid mine at Canton Island. Recon - and a sub - report this location has many ships - mostly the more healthy refugees from Hawaii. Three more subs are en route to exploit. Minefields should be defended to be effective.

I-12 at PM finally torpedoed CL Adelaide. Why she is still there is difficult to explain - but Panzerjaeger pulls his start of game punches. He does not permit anything to move or change on the first day except the carriers. He does not permit Aussie or Indian based units to get new orders for the first four days. It is his way of simulating political and military command paralysis and surprise.

I-154 spotted AP President Johnson at Jolo - where 4 ships seem to be either landing or loading troops - and where PT boats defend them - but our torpedoes missed. Nevertheless - this report probably set up air strikes later in the day turn.

4 Fujimoto class BB bombarded Molokai. 640 casualties, 9 guns lost, 6 vvehicles lost, 46 other hits. No damage inflicted by CD guns - which hopefully are less dangerous now. There are two units on Molokai - the defense force of Lahaina having withdrawn there - and the start of game defense force. These are composite units - but essentially they are CD units with some air support and ground security elements attached. They are carefully modeled on the real forces there - in CHS and stock there were no local defense units - but since we came to invade in EOS - we decided they should be present.

I-15 at Palmyra foolished attacked an ASW group - it is a problem with WITP that subs reveal them selves to AS groups. Her torpedoes failed, her shells missed - but fortunately so did enemy DC - from half a dozen DD.

I-7 - in her first action of the war - missed CL Glasgow at Columbo. At least we know this modern ship has arrived in theater.

A Japanese landing force hit Molokai. It has a demi brigade - that is half of the Imperial Guards Brigade - on board. It encountered a defensive minefield and AK Kyokko hit a mine - while two escorts destroyed four mines.




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Status: offline 		The day turn began with more troops landing at Molokai - and with another mine attack - this time without hits on the landing ships.

USN sub S-37 was detected, localized, attacked and missed by CL Kiso and 7 DD at Cagayan. This process was repeated later in the day.

I-24 was similarly missed by 2 ASW units at sea in the Central Pacific - probably near Canton Island.

5 Blenheim night fighters, 6 Whiraways and 3 Buffalos hit the airfield at Singora - causing 11 casualties and 6 runway hits.
4 Petes and 12 Ki-41s on CAP. 3 Allied aircraft destroyed and 6 damaged by CAP and AAA - the AA in this hex now getting pretty strong.
These attacks were made at 2000 feet - meaning almost no chance of fighter intercept and bombing too accurate - I consider it unfair and wrong to do this before 1943 - but other players don't agree I guess. 6 Hudsons followed up immediately - 1 was lost to CAP - 6 casualties, 1 gun lost, 3 other hits.

20 Ki-48s hit Alor Star (with 2 Zeros escorting) - no CAP - 5000 feet altitude = no damage from MMG or HMG. 24 casualties,
1 gun lost, 41 other hits. 2 Blenheims destroyed on the ground. This raid out of Kampong Soam.

19 Kates and 22 Ki-41s out of Singora hit Georgetown. 3 Buffalos on CAP - 2 were shot down - as was one Kate. AK Makassar took a 250 kg bomb hit. 6 casualties, 1 port hit.

43 Zeros swept Manila - but no CAP = no action.

A JAAF attack on the 47th Guerilla Regiment in China caused 91 casualties and 1 gun lost. Another on the 48th Guerilla Regiment caused 12 casualties and 1 gun lost. A third on the 52nd caused 20 casualties.

Enemy forces sent the First Burma Brigade to Ye. A JAAF strike on it failed to do any damage. Ye is occupied by a small naval landing party - which relieved the airborne company that took the place when it was undefended.

11 Nells missed an AO and a MSW unit in the South China Sea. 10 Claudes missed 2 PT boat divisions at Wenchow. Neither seems badly hurt from the previous days strafings.

7 Ki-48s out of Legaspi put a small bomb (= 3 15 kg bombs) into TK Gertrude Kelly at Manila. 6 more missed AP Adrianne Muller later.

5 Bettys out of Cagayan put two fish into AP President Madison - and missed AP Basilan - at Jolo. This attack was probably set up because a sub spotted them there the night before.

2 Vildebeeste out of HK raided Bako. 1 shot down by 20 Zeros and 10 Ki-27 on CAP. One penetrated but missed an AK.

19 SOVIET Sturmoviks escorted by 22 fighters of 2 types out of Suchan put a bomb into AK Shinju Maru in the Sea of Japan. She is badly burning and flooding - but might make port. She will be covered by 12 Claudes out of Muroran. She will be avenged by a strong raid on Suchan - which should hit ships in port - including transports - damage the airfield significantly - and destroy enemy aircraft in the air and on the ground. It is the ONLY response - and will stand down in one day IF no more Soviet attacks occur. If they do occur - we are in general war - not merely a technical state of war. This was made clear by a staff officer of Kwangtung Army - who pointed out the WITHDRAWALL of IJA forces from forward areas will continue for one more day - subject to review if any more attacks occur.

3 Chinese SB-2s missed an AK at Canton.

KB sank AVD Avocet with 28 Vals NE of Hawaii - 8 bomb hits. 16 more Vals and an equal number of Kates sank AO Neosho in the same area -
5 bomb and 3 torpedo hits. 13 Vals and 17 Kates sank AO Sapulga - 12 bomb hits left nothing for the torpedo bombers to hit. 18 Vals sank DM Prebel - 8 bomb hits. KB met at sea and reformed into a 6 CV force. It will continue to move NE - two subs with air spotters are tracking ships out of range just now. All targets in range were sunk.

I-12 - which hit Adelaide during the night - missed here in a follow up attack.

I-15 missed CL Detroit near Palmyra. 2 DD missed her in reply - but did attack her. Next I-15 torpedoed DD Cassin - but was missed by 4 DDs in counterattacks - which went on for a long time. Most of these early DD have patterns of only 2.
















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Status: offline 		42 000 Japanese troops attacked 13 000 Allies at HK - achieved 6:1 odds - and captured the hex. 18,259 casualties, 121 guns lost, 826 vehicles lost. The presence of a supply sink organic to this medium size composit unit - it has many infantry, AA and CD elements - as well as some engineer and aviation support elements - did not prolong the siege - which did not last long enough to bring up reinforcements.

Lead elements of 33rd Division - waiting more troops to land - took Korat Thailand by ground assault - so more local supplies and resources will feed units in Thailand - this being both a source hex and a rail junction with another hex already friendly. Thailand is substantially not friendly to Japan until its undefended cities are occupied - same for much of Indochina. Thailand does not join the Axis for a few more days = as IRL - this was cleverly done - making it appear Thailand was reluctant - so it could switch sides later. In fact- Thailand was a classic Axis power - and it was very deliberate about this - its national leader was tried as a war criminal - convicted - exhonerated by the Thai Supreme Court based on AMERICAN law - and returned to power. Very clever these Thai.







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The night turn began with landing forces at Molokai encountering a minefield - and AK Asuka Maru hitting one of them.

I-21 missed CL Adelaide at sea - she is running from PM at last - a torpedo already in her belly from another submarine.

I-14 torpedoed AK Pyro near Fanning in the Line Islands - two DMS missed in counterattacks.

Ro-26 torpedoed AK Muntok at Batavia. She repeated this in the day turn, and Muntok sank.

CL Kiso and 6 DD ran in on Jolo (from Cagayan) - and encountered and sank AK Hai Lea with torpedoes. They ran into 3 divisions of US and Philippine PT boats - and took one .50 cal hit from them. Then then fought with AP President Madison and AP Basilan - who had troops on board - they were either landing troops or evacuating them. Both were sunk with massive shellfire - and Basilan also took a torpedo. Then this force bombarded Jolo - destroyed a B-17 on the ground (meaning they have been flying from a field too small to permit effective bomb loads and which would result in operational damage more than should be the case) - hit AK Bicol docked there - caused 125 casualties, 2 guns lost, 1 vehicle lost, and 12 other hits.

BB Tennessee - in damaged state - seems to have run in on Molokai. But she may have been trying to return to PH to lick her wounds - she didn't do very well in battle. Her force - with 4 DMS - ran into 4 transports, 2 DD and 1 DE. Four hits were scored on 3 Japanese ships - none of them heavy - while 10 hits were scored on 3 USN ships. Two Japanese transports ended up with heavy damage - while so did Tennessee - which is impossible from 4.7 inch and 3 inch hits - indicating she was already in a bad way. DMS Elliot was set on fire.

If that was not bad enough - I-170 then put 2 fish into Tennessee. Escorts did manage to hit her in return however - and she had to retire to Lahaina for repairs.



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19 Kates, 22 Ki-41s and 3 Petes made a simultaneous run on Georgetown out of Singora. 2 Buffalo on CAP - both destroyed. 8 casualties, 2 other hits. Singora is too small an airfield to permit effective loadings.

64 Ki-21s and 28 Zeros raided Singapore - met 19 Buffalos on CAP - and shot down 7. 4 Vildebeeste destroyed on the ground.
22 hits by 50 kg bombs on 10 ships. 18 casualties, 60 other hits. This raid out of Soc Trang, Indochina.

45 Zeros swept Manila - but met no CAP.

49 Ki-21s, 27 Ki-30s, 5 Ki-48s (on recon), 22 Ki-51s escorted by 90 Ki-27s raides Suchen, next to Vladivostok in a reprisal raid. No CAP met in the sky. 2 bombers lost. 4 LaGG-3 destroyed on the ground. 13 hits on 6 ships in port. 49 airbase related hits. The Russians were told this raid was coming - and also were told that the force would disperse tomorrow. Regretfully - Soviet recon planes put another bomb into the AK at the heart of the crisis - I told him not to run recon - and the damage to Russian ships is much more than the damage by 2 bombs to one AK - so the crisis may not end after all - time will tell. The AK will probably flood out - but we are giving it a chance to make port - because if it survives we can stand down. His ships are already in port and none will sink. But all six were set on fire and two were heavily damaged - it may have made the point that getting bombed is not nice.

JAAF ineffectively attacked ROC 90th Field Army. Another attack caused 33 casualties and 2 guns lost to 100th Field Army. Yet another caused 80 casualties and 4 guns lost to the same unit. Two more caused 0 and 56 casualties to the 52nd Guerilla Regiment.

10 Ju-88s (in the only operational unit with this type new to JAAF) and 13 Nells caused 39 casualties and 1 gun lost to the First Burma Brigade at Ye. This position has only a tiny naval landing party defending it.

10 Ki-21s and 12 Ki-49s (a squadron of 9 bombers and an element of 3 recon planes) - attacked a base force on Molokai ineffectively.

3 P-35s attacked CA Haguro at Legaspi - met 5 Petes and 20 Me-109s on CAP - and were all destroyed (1 to a Pete, 1 to a Me and 1 to AA fire from the cruiser).

KB - well NE of Hawaii - could only reach an MSW unit - this it sank - of course. His other TFs headed for the USA put on all speed and sprinted out of range - indication no serous damage - and we only move at cruising speed (being far from port). Also we have few air units able to attack and need time to recover from days of air strikes.

5 Vals out of Japan ran in on a DM at Suchan - and one was lost - for no hits.

31 P-40s - out of Manila - ran in on Aparri - hitting AK Matsukawa with one small bomb. 8 Claudes on CAP. 3 P-40s damaged, none lost.
3 B-17s followed up - but missed - and also were missed and undamaged.

16 Nells (and 53 Zeros) put 24 shell hits, 7 torpedoes and 9 bombs into two tankers at Manila - both were sunk.

I-157 torpedoed ML Rigel in the South China Sea.

3 old USN 4 pipers scored 3 hits on Ro-49 at Tarakan.

2 RN divisions of PT boats attacked at Bako - met 4 AK and 2 MSW units - but nobody got hit by anything.

















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Status: offline 		Two ROC Field Armies had invaded the Nanchang hex - a salient - in China. 68 000 Japanese attacked them - achieved 53 : 1 odds - and they fled the hex after a single attack.

Two reinforced IJA divisions and an artillery regiment took undefended Naga near Legaspi.

An attack on a ROC Guerilla Regiment achieved 310 : 1 odds - and it retreated.

2763 Japanese in a demi brigade attacked only 322 men on Molokai - he must have evacuated most of the 2 units there -
and captured the hex. Since it is mountains - it could have been very hard to take.



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