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Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/27/2012 2:59:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		The casualties and equipment loss can be horrendous if they are routed. This was a full TOE unit:




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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/27/2012 4:46:48 AM   
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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/27/2012 11:45:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		A '43 Rocket launcher division has about 850 of the BM-30-4 rocket launcher. Each is about 50 points, so a full division will cost you more then half a turns ararments production. Te later version has less equipment, but it is more expensive. You should also look out for your Breakthrough Artillery divisions...

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/27/2012 2:55:49 PM   
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What does a full strength look like?


I have never seen one get to full strength 8)

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/27/2012 11:55:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		They take a while... I think this is where the current "anti-Armaments" war will hurt the Reds most. Flavius has been quite consistent in noting that these Rocket and Arty Divs are essential for cracking Fort Lines, so if they can't be made...

As a Soviet, I now won't take a chance on getting "just one more turn" of production from an Arm Fac. Indeed I may swicth to railling out all the small ones 100% ( so they will get back into production quickly) and saving as little as 1 point if needed from the biggies rather than losing them all together.

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/28/2012 10:01:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets don't get enough arm anymore. A few of us flagged this as soon as the 42+ 130% mod was introduced. It needs to be raisd up to at least 150% IMO.

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/28/2012 12:54:42 PM   
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If you lose more then 40 armament pts with the uber over rated russian rail system your tring to lose.

A monkey can do better then that.

There is more then enough amr pts, but 95% of the russians lack the exp and knowledge of the game from 42-45 and build allot of usless junk.

The only bottle neck left that has not been nerfed is AP pt's. I am guessing that will get nerfed the next major patch and other gifts for the russian side.

the gifts being talked about are really not needed, just more playing exp from 42 on.

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/28/2012 3:11:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem with rocket divisions filling out is not related to armament points, btw. The suckers are just slow to reach full TOE no matter what your armament situation is.

The existing 130% multiplier is ok provided you know what to do and handle evacuations correctly. But there's not a lot of slack there and it's made the whole evacuation portion of the game rather rigid. For me anyways -- I have A Plan. It is the same plan for every game now. I wish the game allowed for more creativity here (not to mention a reason to actually care about heavy industry.) Certainly the days where you could write off 100 armament factories and fight it out are gone.



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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/30/2012 12:50:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am having to disband the Arty Regiments and Fort Zones that were useful in 1941-42 in order to free up the big guns for the Arty Divs in 43. Particular bottlenecks are 152mm Gun _ Howitzer and 122mm Guns. I will avoid buiding any Army Arty Regiments, and tone down RGVK Arty Regt building.

Another error was buidling too many Heavy Mortar battalions, but I like those huge siege mortars :)

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/30/2012 2:32:39 PM   
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I wish the game allowed for more creativity here (not to mention a reason to actually care about heavy industry.)


Are you saying that HI and the supplies they produce are never in high demand for the Soviet relative to production?

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/30/2012 4:04:48 PM   
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I wish the game allowed for more creativity here (not to mention a reason to actually care about heavy industry.)


Are you saying that HI and the supplies they produce are never in high demand for the Soviet relative to production?



It was discussed in some old thread [I remenber it was Pelton who strart it], it seems that given the number of HI and resources to use in them soviet cannot realistically loss enough HI to have a impact on its supply level.



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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/30/2012 4:41:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's a huge amount of slack with HI. I have never run into a supply shortage even by ignoring all evacuations of HI. It's simply not a constraining factor in Soviet production.

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RE: Don't Let Rocket Divs get attacked - 1/30/2012 5:01:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm tracking production in my two current games (MP and PBEM), but I didn't know how supply usage would change in late game with larger on map units eating supplies, and likely higher cost to build units in the late build order.
Another question: Does all surplus supply get stored, or is there any kind of loss rate amongst the surplus?
I've only played one other '41 GC against the AI and it ended in '43 without me paying any attention whatsoever to airpower or production (I evac'ed factories in the beginning, but never followed any of the production stats)

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