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Callistrid vs Kamil - 11/11/2011 10:25:36 PM   
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My opponent start well! Bryansk, Kovel and Lvov pocket was created, and well secured. On the T01 I decide to retreat back to the river, and build a strong defense line, and focus on Leningrad-Moscow. What means I must give up ukraine.


Leningrad area:
The soviet forces try to focus on Leningrad. Reinforced with 12 strong div from Moscow, the eastern area must slow the axis forces with all cost, and build a strong line near the Luga River.








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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/11/2011 10:33:30 PM   
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Moscow area

The second important front. The Western Front try too keep the river, slow the axis forces, but retreat, if the axis could encircle them. The Moscow defense zone try to build the fortified front around Vyazma, and refit the troops.

The AGC seems to be cautious, only one pz div was attacked on this turn, with 42 AVF casulties.







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/11/2011 10:50:26 PM   
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Ukraine

Weak front, and several div was transfered to the Moscow front, so only the wise retreat could keep the army.
Since Leningrad and Moscow will be defended hardly, the industrial capacity must be evacuated to the urals, but several heavy industry will be captured by the axis forces.







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/11/2011 11:08:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for this AAR, good to see the Red Army Fighting !! Watching closely to see how your forward defense ( or perhaps speed bump ) works for the long run in AGN & AGC.

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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/12/2011 5:59:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		If Kamil planned ahead hes should be able to fuel up his PZs turn 4 and strike turn 5 in the Leningrad area.

HQ build-ups turn 5 in center and he should have fueled up tanks turn 3 in south.

You look in good shape if Kamil gives you a few more turns to keep bring up troops hes going to have a tough time.

The better players fight forward in north and center all game. The south you only need to control until turn 7 then run like hell east. All your armament should be gone by then.

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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/12/2011 9:56:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Nothing wrong with the pulling back strategy in the south.

If you have the troops, don't neglect that rail crossing of the Dnepr between Cherkassy and Dnepropetrovsk.

If you are going down the "checkerboard" route, then a pure checkerboard is a bit risky. If you can combine the checkerboard with linear defence where the terrain is helpful, then you will do well.


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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/12/2011 2:01:17 PM   
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Leningrad area
before, and after my moves

The german troops had break the first, and the second defense line, and threat Pskov.
I gave up the city, and truly hope that my opponent will attack on the NW part of this front.
On this front my strategy is to force my enemy to start deliberate attack with his mot/pz troops, or he must wait the german infantry support.

The only worries if the german will try to break the lines on the east, and move leningrad on the back door.







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/12/2011 2:19:24 PM   
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Sadly, his second attack was succesfull





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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/12/2011 2:36:16 PM   
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Moscow front

The situation on this area seems to be critical.
I belive my opponent build up his pz forces, the 9th and 4th german inf divisions had arrive, so next turn he will start a huge attack to encircle my troops, and break my lines.

What mean the T04 soviet strategy will determine the future of this front.
There is three option:

1. Remain in our positions, reinforce the current front line + build a second, and a third defense line, but sacrafice the Western front, and give 2-4 turn to build a strong fortification area around Moscow. If I choose this one, most of my troops will be eliminated.

2. Fall back to Bryansk, and Vyazma forest.
Dangerous option, because after the turn05 we will fight extremly close to Moscow, will full strenght german troops. Of course my troops will be also strong, and the hedgehog positions will slow the german pz forces. But I must defend the gates of Moscow, and the Turn 18 seems to be so far.

3. Checkerboard defense line, and sacrefice the Western front on this way. Reinforcement will build the defense line around Moscow.


Finaly, I've choosed the first option, and hope the best. So, I build a stong first line, but there is no second line... Will the panzers encircle my troops?








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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/12/2011 2:46:57 PM   
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I tought the ukraine front will be critical, but it's seems the moscow will be.
On the turn 5 the german could cross the Dnyepr, and on the T06 broaden the breakthrough. So nothing critical yet.

Kamil keep his eyes on his mot/pz divisions, so I can't hit them, and I've start giving up the Kiev region.







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/12/2011 6:21:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I need more than 7 turn, because there is Kharkov... that city need just 2 turn of rail, without heavy factories.
Right now the following factories must be evacuated:

Dnepropetrovszk 16 Arma - 1turn
Kharkov - 51 T34 - 1turn
20 Vehicle - 1 turn
15 Arma - 1 turn
Stalino 29 Arma - 2 turn
5 Vehicle
Zaporozhye+ Maalevka + kramatoskya + Gorolovka 13 Arma - 1 Turn
Rostov 15 Arma - 1 Turn

8+ Turn, and only the most important industry will be evacuated + never forget the troop rail.

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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/13/2011 11:47:06 AM   
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The first line had been broken, but nothing serious. I belive Leningrad could be defended in these conditions.
However, the german reinforcement will be deployed here, so hard battle will occur.

I'm giving a "free" way on NW, hoping my opponent will attack there. My plan is to force the german troops on a frontal assault.







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/13/2011 11:57:19 AM   
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This front could be in a big problem, since, I'vd use the reinforcements to stop the german attack. The road to Moscow is blocked, but unfortified.

3 AGC panzers had been encircled, plus a succesfull counterattack create a small disturbing bulge west from Smolenks in the forest.
The Dnyepr line remain unharmed, but I must gave up Vitebsk.

The good question the german will cross the Dnyepr, or continue his attack on east, toward to Moscow.







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/13/2011 12:00:57 PM   
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A succesfull counterattack route two german pz division. The german troops don't cross the Dnyepr line, and the path to Dnyepropetrovsk is well fortified. I've start to build a second, and a third line, so I'm not worry about this front.
Perhaps next turn I will :)







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/13/2011 12:03:55 PM   
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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/13/2011 2:47:30 PM   
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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/14/2011 5:30:16 PM   
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My most strongest front is Leningrad. The early reinforcements slow the germ,an attack, and now a strong line stand against the german. I belive 2 or maybe 3 turn need to break my first line, and in the maintime the second line will be build, plus start the third line.

However, the 18th turn seems to be fo far, so Leningrad could fall.








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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/14/2011 5:42:22 PM   
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The german spearhead persistently marching toward to Moscow. From ukraine I transfered 7 strong division, plus I've start giving up the Dnyepr line. With these troops, I hope the germans could be slow.

Supporting the retreat, the soviets start bombing the german airbase (1 attack/airbase), force the german fighters to fight for the air superiority. After several massive fight the 1:3 odds seems to be acceptable for me.










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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/14/2011 5:54:34 PM   
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What should I say? -7 div to Moscow, weak troops, large front. Only the dnypr and the providence keeps it all together. If the german will cross the dnyep, well, Kharkow will be in a big trouble. And next turn the german will cross somewhere the river.






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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/14/2011 5:56:58 PM   
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I don't know my casulties are high or not, or my opponents pz, and air looses seems to be average, or high/low...





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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/16/2011 12:34:23 PM   
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The german gave up the frontal attack, and now he try to flanking the front on SW.
2 Div had been encircled, but nothing serious. This is my best, well defended front.






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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/16/2011 12:40:08 PM   
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The german abandon the frontal assault and turned of the south way. The western front will e encircled next turn, and more than 14 div could be eliminated.
Bryansk seems to be undefended, and the only good news, I've cut the supply line of 6 mot/pz unit.






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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/16/2011 12:43:25 PM   
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Since the german had cross the Dnyepr, with strong forces, I've gave up the river, and start using the chessboard defense strategy.

However 6-8 unit will be encircled, but I will have enough time to evacuate Kharkow.






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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/17/2011 12:11:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good job on holding river until turn 7. Thats all you needed. I think you should have contested the bridge head a little more, but still good job in south. Now he have to keep PZs in south. If the german player gets over the river before turn 7 then its more then likely he can send them to AGC before turn 13 and you have trouble holding Moscow.

In the north again great job.

Center hes tring to pocket peeps.

With his slow advance in north this will greatly help you hang onto Moscow. You need to hold his Panzers in the Leningrad area until past turn 10-13. If he gets then to AGc before turn 10 you have a very hard time holding Moscow.

Moscow will only be held IF Leningrad is not cut off before turn 10 and you can hold river until turn 7 vs a good German.

There are only a handfull out there.

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Breaking the Luga-line - 11/17/2011 12:14:37 AM   
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The Luga line had been break in a good position. I hope, my opponent will focus to force the frontal attack against Leningrad. Keeping the city I've sent 6 new strong division (2-4 CV value) from the center front, and more when the 9+ turn reinforcements will arrive.






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Miracle on the center - 11/17/2011 12:18:04 AM   
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The western front had a way to fall back from the Smolensk pocket. The 54th cavalry division save the day, ad the full front.
However, Moscow is well secured, and the germans gave up the frontal assault against Vyazma, but the Bryansk area low defended.






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Ukraine - 11/17/2011 12:25:04 AM   
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The germans start attacking Kharkow, and Stalino, but nothing serious, and dangerous happen this turn (except 6 unit was encircled, and next turn eliminated).
Around Kharkow, I've concentrate my best troops, to keep the city, and counterattack, if needed.
After the turn 9, the industries will be fully evacuated.







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RE: Callistrid vs Kamil (no Kamil) - 11/17/2011 12:57:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Pelton

Good job on holding river until turn 7. Thats all you needed. I think you should have contested the bridge head a little more, but still good job in south. Now he have to keep PZs in south. If the german player gets over the river before turn 7 then its more then likely he can send them to AGC before turn 13 and you have trouble holding Moscow.


Since I've sent 13 div to the center, I though, the front will collapse quickly, but Kamil won't cross the river on turn 3-5.


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In the north again great job.


When I start the game, I decide to keep the city with all cost. Several div from the center front was sent there (the full Moscov starting forces 12+ div).
Leningrad won't be cut, because several reinforcements will be send there if needed. My goal is to keep the city at all cost, and don't allow entering the finns. I belive on T09, Kamil will broaden his lines on west Luga, and just on 12-13 could have chance to start cutting the city. But in that area several unit has 3 CV, and relative high morale (50+), so I have a great chance to keep the city.
I belive it was a mistake, when he attack on the west part.


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Center hes tring to pocket peeps.

With his slow advance in north this will greatly help you hang onto Moscow. You need to hold his Panzers in the Leningrad area until past turn 10-13. If he gets then to AGc before turn 10 you have a very hard time holding Moscow.

Moscow will only be held IF Leningrad is not cut off before turn 10 and you can hold river until turn 7 vs a good German.

There are only a handfull out there.


And around Moscow I've start building the fortification line, but we shall see what the german will do. And the good news, most of my units had escaped from the pocket. Cav divs with 22 movement are always usefull.

And the hedgehog position on difficult terrarian, plus fortification could stop the german. And it's not good when the german pz need to use deliberate attack.

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Disaster near Moscow - 11/21/2011 5:27:24 PM   
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I belive the city will be protected, because my opponent drive the 4th Pz army north. Stroong troops, high forts, I have all what I need.







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RE: Disaster near Moscow - 11/21/2011 5:35:31 PM   
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The 4th panzer army succesfull break the soviet lines near Velkie Luki, and with the 2nd and 3re pz army succesfull encircle the full Moscow MD (with two full army/24 div)

However the german lines was low defended, and some soviet units had break it, but now, the german circles seems to be unbreakable.

Since the german concentrate 4 full pz army, I must thinking to start evacuate Moscow, because I don't have any troops to protect the city.





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