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Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had aircraf... - 5/10/2017 12:45:53 PM

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This might take some getting used to....

Edit: Here's the playlist, it grows day by day:
Youtube Full War in the Pacific 1941-1945

For first turn we decided that I will play somewhat historical. Everywhere in the world is peaceful, pilots are going through their training routines, ships going about their business, with only the wary British deciding to implement some sort of combat air patrol as there is some inkling in the slimes' hut about some kind of Japanese action off the coast.... but no one believes them, although orders are orders - CAP will be implemented during the short in between breaks of drinking Tiger or Asahi beer.

The whor... err, houses of ill re.... err, houses of pleasure are mighty busy in Pearl Harbour, Singapore, Hong Kong.... sailors and soldiers are tanning, birds are singing, women are strip... err, enjoying the weather... lets just say there is a mighty amount of peaceful activity typical on military bases.

Lets read the news, shall we?
December 6, 1941 newspapers

All in all, American men and women are concerned about Japan, but the news coverage is split between the great Nazi defeat in front of Moscow and the battles on the eastern front and the looming threat of the Empire...

Incidentally, Great Britain has just declared war... on Finland.

Meanwhile, the great, unbeatable fortress of Singapore in Malaya is on full alert as the British defenders assume ready posture.

Then again, there are the REALLY important articles. The REALLY important matters. The baseball tables for both divisions are here!

New York Yankees lead the pack, chased by the Boston Red Sox in their division. In the National, the Brooklyn Dodgers have won only 1 less game than the NYY (Brooklyn has won 100, NYY 101!).

December 6 baseball standings

In the National Football League, there were some rules changes:
"Whenever a player is ejected from the game, his team is penalized 15 yards" and "A personal foul committed by the opponent of the scoring team is enforced on the ensuing kickoff.".

In Chicago, at Comiskey Park, the great Chicago Bears bear down on the Chicago Cardinals and win against their town rivals, 34-24, on December 7, 1941....

And, lest we forget, the most important factoid of today: THERE ARE ONLY 16 SHOPPING DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS!
Buy your darling some real Havana cigars, or splurge on a nice prime suit for $35. Better yet, if you really love her, open up that wallet and buy her a genuine alligator bag for $10!

Tidbits and factoids (this is a great article, well worth reading).

Technology is advancing, and a new gadget - the FM radio - is now being tested. Perhaps more importantly (depending on where you live and work), air conditioning is now almost a common thing in many office buildings.

Lest any one doubt this great nation, this United States of America, preparedness for war, our troops are on war maneuvers practicing their fighting skills.

quote:

The morning papers showed Hank Greenberg, the Detroit Tigers' slugger, leaving Fort Custer, Mich., after 180 days' service. The same day, cavalry troops on maneuvers at Camp Funstan, Kan., had used eggs for hand grenades.

And that's news, folks, on this December 6, 1941!

Before the storm, peacetime, December 7 1941, very early morning:

Peace time December 7 1941...

Feel free to laugh at my ineptness, praise my opponent and/or (if you take pity) give me some help, either on youtube video or here.

Cheers.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/10/2017 2:51:01 PM

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I am watching the video now. Your English is very good: completely fluent.

It is your AAR, and you should do it however you like. May I make a suggestion, however. I think it might present better if you write up most of your planning decisions and so forth like a normal AAR. Then screen capture, via video recording, all of the important combat replays and then post the replays on youtube with links in the AAR, so we can watch the action as your decisions play out in the game. This will reduce the length of the video, and reading about your plans allows someone following the AAR to think a bit more about what you are doing.

As I say, however, it is your AAR, and you should do it in the way that your prefer.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/11/2017 2:30:42 AM

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@Aurorus - I will try the combat report video with all the battles and animations in that day and then the next video will be Strategy - no clicks, just me explaining what I am doing and why.

First blood is drawn, Japanese Empire strikes on December 7, 1941.

Dec 7 1941 WAR!!!
Staff meeting, main points of interest: Gentlemen, this is a top secret meeting. We are at war. The forces of the Allies - the Brits with their whole Commonwealth, Dutch, Australians, Chinese, us, the Americans.... everybody is to be considered as of now an active enemy of the Japanese Empire. We don't have time, you have to get back to your units. So far these are the main strategic points for discussion:

1) Zuikaku Shokaku Akagi located - they are bombing Manila, NE Philippines 1/2 Kido Butai near Phillipines, no idea where the rest of their carriers are
Intelligence GUESS: other CV will go to Dutch East Indies?????

2) Mersing invasion; we are seriously ****ed. Lots of amphibious Task Forces; no air cover noticed so far. No nearby carriers spotted. So far only a light cruiser is bombarding Mersing.
Intelligence GUESS: The Japanese must have at least a small escort carrier task force to provide a defensive air umbrella?

3) Brunei invaded, next to Miri, which is the main refinery in northern Borneo. 91 Nav Guard division, special Japanese naval landing commandoes SNLF are assaulting there.

4) The hell??? Midget sub penetrated Pearl Harbour and torpedoed one of our battlewagons! Where did that come from?

5) Pearl Harbour was NOT bombed.

Notes:
Japan is always bombing from 9000 feet
Japanese fighters strafing at 100 feet

Confidential Army/Navy newsreel:
Combat turn. December 7 1941: War! The Empire strikes!

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/11/2017 3:21:55 AM

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As said above it is your AAR, but I as a somewhat more experienced player will offer suggestions from time to time, or ad nauseam, which is more likely.

OK, for starters. Don't get too involved with reality and the game. Yes, the game is good, but its not reality. So, for instance supply will flow pretty well as long as there is a path, RR or no RR. Doesn't mean the RR won't help its just not that necessary. Now if there's no other route roads and railroads are great.

So you want supply to flow from Changsha... Well it won't as I noticed that it was set to stockpile in the city screen. This means supply will flow to units in the field that can be reached, but it will not move the adjacent bases.

Another thing, China will almost always be choked for supplies. The only effective thing you can do early is to move as many supplies to Rangoon as possible before your opponent cuts the route. Once the supplies are in Rangoon they should 'flow' to where needed, i.e., China. The other more limited supply effort you could make early on is to fly supplies from India into China. With the limited assets that are available this won't amount to much.

Don't use aircraft to move supplies around within China, unless you're trying to supply something that's isolated. Even then I'd probably not do it. As a matter of fact its best to move your Chinese Air Force as far from the front as possible. The lone exception would be the AVG, a very powerful, but limited force early on. ASAP get your Chinese air out of China to train and equip, this will get it off your supply headache. As it stands you have neither the experience nor replacements for the Chinese air to play an effective role anyway. All you're going to do is make a lot of Japanese Aces.

As for the land campaign in China, good luck against an experienced Japanese player. While I would possibly defend in the Changsha region its the only area I would consider outside of defensible terrain. For the Chinese Army that means any terrain with a 3X's bonus or more. There's no exception to that rule whatsoever, until possibly late game . No exceptions unless you wish to lose China completely. Even then it'll be a challenge to hold. Once gone Japan has many units to move from China to defend the Empire and you don't want that.

BTW, your idea looks interesting, but please keep in mind that our time for viewing is limited. I hope a balance can be struck and look forward to further viewing.

Of course the above is JMHO, but I hope some of it will be of use.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/11/2017 3:29:54 AM

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Another thing that just came to mind is your plan to build airfields and fortifications. Airfields, no way, you won't have the supplies. Forts to a degree, but a large effort will be a strain as well. Units in terrain outside of bases will fortify automatically and these are not reduced as a result of combat. In conjunction with good terrain the combo may stop Japan.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/11/2017 4:28:18 AM

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OK, just watched the replay. First off don't be terrified. A number of non-historical games will start something like this. The 'Mersing Gambit' is usually expressly forbidden in this type of start, but not too much to worry about here as the Allies still will ultimately overwhelm Japan.

Based on the number of A/C in the Manila strike the entire KB was there, so you know where it is.

Keep in mind that Japanese Naval Guard and SNLF units are actually are about the size of a regiment, ~1500 men.

The midget sub attack is a vestige of the historical start and are set to hit Pearl anyway, so that's where they came from. There's actually evidence now that IRL one Japanese midget did attack and hit a BB. The last one was recently discovered with its torp tubes empty, and appears to be in a photo of the harbor during the attack.

Oh, and make sure you turn 'repair' off for the Hong Kong shipyard, you don't want to fix the yard for him. One reason I don't like to make port attacks on bases with repair yards, as they can be damaged during the attack. Besides there's really nothing of much value in the port of Hong Kong.

This also presents you with a small opportunity. Its likely the KB will continue toward the DEI, even if not you should have ~3 days before it'll be back in the SE area of operations. There are many small forces headed for the Gilbert Islands that will be totally exposed unless he drew them back. You could send you carriers to the area to strike. I assume you could set things up to properly protect your force from the limited assets he has in the neighborhood. This will at least show him you will be active while the 'cat (KB) is away'. It probably won't change his plans, but will let him know you won't just roll over. Remember though strike and leave. Hanging around can get you slaughtered. If nothing else you could pick up some experience for your planes and crews.

In case you are not aware the reference to the 'cat is away' is from a US saying. "The mice will play while the cat is away".

Anyway just my 2 cents. OK, maybe a dime.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/11/2017 6:52:14 AM

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rustysi-

I am enjoying your sense of humor and AAR.

Best Regards,

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/11/2017 10:04:24 PM

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quote:

I am enjoying your
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AAR.

Its not my AAR. I'm just trying to help Timotheous, to whom it belongs. He seems a bit frazzled and its only day one.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/13/2017 11:41:16 AM

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Frazzled? I am cool as a cucumber.... in a frying pan.

Thanks for commenting guys, and thank you for all the help rustysi. China is a pain, looks to me like airpower might be a huge issue as each bombing can disable my poor Chinese troops (especially in clear terrain) and of course that eats up lots of supply to rebuild/heal them...

Burma also scares me, as I have nothing there bar a few local Malay guys sharing a few rifles in between them...

Am thinking of making a stand at Rangoon, but that would require supplying it by sea (it will inevitably be surrounded by the enemy), and to protect the SLOC I would need to commit my UK fleet... with its ultra modern biplanes on a carrier... Do not think stringbags and Fulmars will go a long way in 1941-42...

Here's the video:
December 8 Operational Phase

Sorry about the mouse offset, I got it to record fullscreen, with non jerking animations, but the issue is now the 16:9 monitor resolution and 4:3 game resolution make the mouse cursor very much offset.

The plan now is to record my Operational video (where I talk nonsense and click a lot) in 720p, while the Combat video (where I don't click but watch pretty combat) in full screen. Should work.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/13/2017 10:54:38 PM

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OK, all your ideas are sound and well thought out. They also will not work.

Sorry. As for Wake Island, your Widcats and PBY's probably have such low naval strike abilities they'd be lucky to hit the broad side of a barn. B-17's need an AF of about size 5 to operate at full efficiency, and probably lack adequate training as well. AF size for level bombers is 4+(BL/6500) rounded down. Page 163 of manual. Small bases and lack of pilot experience will result in higher op losses. In addition, their replacement rate is low so it'll be difficult to replace losses.

You have a healthy fear of his subs when it comes to your carriers, this is good early in the game. Its why I suggested earlier to head for the Gilberts as Japan has ~2 dozen subs around Pearl Harbor to start the game. Its dangerous to go wading through these. I'd make for the Gilberts. If you don't like that idea go to the Fiji Islands to hide out for now. Your idea for the devastators while sound, again won't work. You need skill levels of 60-70 in ASW before much will happen. And yes your destroyers are poor as well, at least experience wise. So personally I'd avoid Pearl Harbor and try to get some of his subs out of the vicinity before moving my carriers there.

Once again I strongly suggest you move supplies to Rangoon to help the China problem. You have the AVG, base it there and any Netties (short for Nells and Betties in case you don't know) will be slaughtered as he won't have fighters that can base within range.

As for Singers you are screwed.

The problem with this is, with its early fall he will now have many troops freed up that would otherwise be tied down. In this case I would now attempt to create 'Fortress Palembang', something I wouldn't normally do or suggest. That is as long as you don't have an HR against it. Anything scheduled for Singers now goes to Palembang, along with every single engineer I could scrap up. Its time to 'play dirty'.

Hope some of this helps.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/14/2017 11:17:13 PM

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Some things came to mind after I had signed off last night. Your fear of his Netties is a bit unhealthy. Yes you need to use caution when they're about, but there're certain things you need to keep in mind. Torpedoes are not omnipotent in the game. There must be an HQ in range to supply these to the Netties. These A/C require a size 4 airfield to operate at full efficiency. Without such they carry a reduced load which doesn't include torps. As level bombers against naval targets there about as useless as any other. In addition to all of that if they come near anything that has adequate CAP without fighter escort, well lets just say the slaughter will be grand.

So having said all the above, I again reiterate my suggestion of the Gilbert Island expedition. The nearest base that he has Netties at that may operate with torps from is Roi-Namur. Its fourteen hexes from Tarawa. Not a range that you will see many ops from, and that's if he can get a DL on you as there's nothing around to do it with. In addition to that he will fly into your fighters without escort. Not gonna happen.

The other reason I advocate such an op is that the AI did it to me. There was great slaughter amongst my meager forces in the area. In this case my KB had just slammed PH, as I play an historical start and it was headed in this general direction anyway, so I sunk his CV's because I was pissed. In your case his KB is nowhere near the Gilberts giving you a free hand to show your opponent you will be aggressive when and where you can.

I know I'm getting a bit forceful with my suggestions here, but I hate to see an opportunity wasted. I often like to take advantage of such opportunities in games and in life as well. I've had many people tell me that I was lucky on this or that occasion. My response to them is that my definition of luck 'is when preparation meets opportunity'.

I hope some of this may be of use. Your humble advocate.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/15/2017 12:01:07 AM

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Oops, I forgot about Burma. Not too much you can do to save it against an experienced opponent. I'll just say the following which may have some impact. First, are you paying PP's to release restricted units? If you are it may be difficult for you to do this as I don't know what your priorities may be. You have ~12-13 ground units in China that may be brought out. Roughly 5 or 6 of them are infantry types. Buy out what you can and head them for Burma. This is historical BTW.

This will serve two purposes. One it'll put a couple of 'speed bumps' in the way of the Japanese. Don't expect too much form these units, but they can buy you a few days. The second thing this will accomplish is to get these units off the China supply t***y. After you're kicked out of Burma these units should retreat to India where they may be supplied, rebuilt, and trained (at least to their national level) for later use.

Again, hope this helps some.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/15/2017 11:51:42 AM

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Video link at bottom. Like horror movies? Then you'll like the video

"OK, all your ideas are sound and well thought out. They also will not work."

Welcome to the war, rookie. Enjoy the spanking

"You have a healthy fear of his subs when it comes to your carriers, this is good early in the game. Its why I suggested earlier to head for the Gilberts as Japan has ~2 dozen subs around Pearl Harbor to start the game."

... Aha, mm-mmmm. Pearl is infested by enemy subs. Enterprise ate a fish. I am terrified now. I will sortie Deedees from Pearl as ASW forces and run them to Enterprise TF. Don't know the damage yet... Will change it to cruise speed to not get more damaged as it sails?

"So having said all the above, I again reiterate my suggestion of the Gilbert Island expedition."

At this point, my opponent seems somewhat experienced, and I think I will just go with Lady Lex somewhere in the nowhere in the big blue ocean - a random spot away from everything... Then again maybe go for the Gilberts and see what mischief we can do.

"I hope some of this may be of use. Your humble advocate."

It IS appreciated, believe you me.

"Oops, I forgot about Burma. Not too much you can do to save it against an experienced opponent."

It seems to me that's the case ALL over the map in December 1941, not just Burma. Japan runs roughshod and can do whatever they want, wherever they want, at the time of their choosing.

I feel like a clown forced to dance for the amusement of my opponent as he shoots the ground under my feet with his Colt revolver....

"You have ~12-13 ground units in China that may be brought out. Roughly 5 or 6 of them are infantry types. Buy out what you can and head them for Burma. This is historical BTW."

Makes sense. Was actually thinking about this, since Burma "defenses" (furious air quote here with my hands) consist of a few Malay guys sharing one rifle between themselves...

Here's the battle report:

December 8 1941 Nippon Ascendant

Edit: Is there a way to move those Chinese units to Burma (or anywhere) faster? There is no rail capacity in Free China, all I can do is march my guys sloooooowly towards their goals?

Quick thought: Maybe use airplanes to transport a unit or two? But a Corps has so many troopers, how can 10-30 bombers+transports cope...

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/16/2017 7:54:06 PM

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My Singapore guys DO NOT want to fly naval / port attacks.... at all.... am pulling my hair out. The enemy ships are unloading at Mersing, RIGHT THERE, a stone's throw away from Singa..... AAaaaaaargh frustration.

But our PBY guys make up for the Brits sitting on their arses, spoiler

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/16/2017 8:20:45 PM

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If he has heavily capped the beach and Task Forces, you may need to proved decent escorts in order for the bombers to "agree" to fly. Have you read the Air Mission Coordination guide sticky in the War Room? I mainly reference that as a guide to help optimize the potential to get good strike coordination between bombers and escorts that may come from differnt bases or be under different command. It's an art, not a science, all you can do is hope to optimize the chance that the behind the scenes die roles will tumble in your favor by not trying to confuse the combat engine with the orders you gave.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/16/2017 8:34:54 PM

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Regarding Chinese forces moving to Burma. Technically there are only a handful of non-restricted Chinese units that you can march to India without having to pay PP. Start marching them along roads and trails where you can and cut the corner to Ledo Via the mountains. It will be slow, but they will get there non the worse for the wear - you won't have any good use for them for a while anyway. I'd save your few transport planes in that area to fly supply into CHina just like the alies did in the war. Be sure to build up Ledo airfield and secure the villages along the rail line back to Calcutta so supply flows to Ledo. Eventually you'll loose hundreds perhaps thousands of transport aircraft flying the hump to China, but even the trickle of supply from this will help.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/16/2017 8:52:36 PM

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The plan is, we're trying to evacuate troops from everywhere and elsewhere and put them into our main bases. We are using cargo ships, passenger ships, aircraft to move troops from far flung outposts to where we want to make a stand.
Some of the routes that we took were... unfortunate.

Evacuate everything!

Edit: Thanks Admiral Ackbar for your input

This is surely it, I need to provide escorts... but this depends on who is leading them and on their morale, as you will see SOME air aquadrons fly without escort and heroically..... ah, I won't spoil it, you'll see in combatrep vid

Re: Chinese troops into Burma. I will happily pay PP to make them part of the British command, no problem. By the time they actually get into the area I will be swimming in PP :)

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/16/2017 10:12:08 PM

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand battle rep.
This was an incredible, tense moment as our airboys spotted.... battleship and a carrier.
Our torps went into the water and they sped toward their targets.....

Bob, we found the enemy task force: battleship and carrier, we are attacking!

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/16/2017 10:47:25 PM

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The videos of you watching the the combat replay are classics. Keep it up... very entertaining.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/18/2017 8:01:13 PM

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I am here for your amusement as I demonstrate my ineptness

Here's the December 10 planning session:
Dec 10 1941 planning phase

And the result, Dec 10 combat rep. Actually.... things went rather well, by my standards.
Dec 10 combat rep

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/18/2017 10:55:17 PM

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quote:

I am here for your amusement

Well your narration is certainly colorful.

OK, I took a few notes.

Why are my A/C performing so poorly? Well you have no morale, training or experience. In addition your leaders are probably poor at best. His airpower is at its peak. Every thing he owns is top notch, at least for now. That's it in a nutshell.

TF's using top speed. Only in an emergency, which I guess you could say is what you have. Just remember ships will accumulate damage PDQ in this mode, and you may not have enough fuel to reach your destination as at full speed its burned pretty quick.

That was not the KB you found near Mindanao, but simply a CVTF with one CVL. Technically the KB, Kido Butai, means something along the lines of 'main force'. What you found couldn't even be termed as a 'mini KB'.

A ship classified as an HDML stands for 'harbor defense motor launch'. It really doesn't even belong at sea unless its running from something.

Cats, or PBY's are really a useful asset and there never seem to be enough of them. Don't throw them away trying to stop something you can't anyway. Withdraw them and train them to search the seas. Remember you won't be able to attack that which you can't find.

The good thing about ground attacks that is not visible to you is that it can increase your opponents' fatigue and disruption. As you say it can also slow him down, both through fatigue/disruption and the fact that it can force a mode change in his march from 'move' to 'combat' which is generally slower.

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but those sub 'hits' you noticed around the HI are probably FOW.

Torps. The reason your 'string bags' (short for those flying creates the Brits call torp bombers) are not using torps is that they are not being supplied with them and you have to do that. Find an HQ or unit at their base (Singers) and supply it with torps. There are two ways to do this. One on the unit screen you'll see a button for torps if the unit can supply them. Click it and add 20 torps at a time until you reach a limit you want, this will cost some supply. Alternately you can click on the units TO&E button and set a number of torps you want the unit to maintain at all times. This will take a turn and again cost some supply.

Your opponents' use of night attacks against you in the PI tells me one of two things. Either he doesn't fully understand the power of the Japanese airforce, or he's moved his Zero's from Formosa. With his Zeros' in Formosa he can hit you with virtual impunity. Using his Zero's with drop tanks he could sweep and then escort his bombers and you'd have very little chance of stopping him. So let him keep his night attacks.

One last thing and I really want to hit this one hard. Ease up on the Brits and their tea, you know how sensitive they are about that.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/19/2017 12:53:23 AM

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"Well you have no morale, training or experience."
Welcome to Allies in WITPAE, 1941. Have "fun".

OK, it was Ryujo, right? The one with Rochembau epic story.... I think the KB is NW and E side of Philippines. I think he will methodically use it to crush all opposition in DEI as he drives his enemies before him, and enjoys hearing the lamentation of the women...

I don't see him raiding into AUS or India before DEI is pacified...

I think I will use the Cats a bit more, and then withdraw them. I already moved the B17's Ambon > Darwin > West Coast AUS where they belong.

I just need some deedees in west coast USA for ASW and escort work and I'll be happy.

Seriously thinking of sortieing CV Sara from USA to Coral Sea to at least pretend to delay his expansion. I want to contest Port Moresby - hell, I want to hold it. Darwin, PM, Suva, those will be my fortresses (time dependent / opponent dependent / no guarantees

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Great tip on the torps - I will check it out next session, but Vilde's did great work with just bombs anyway.... am afraid with torps airplanes go for naval warships (and die to flak) while with bombs (especially small ones) they seem to go for transports, which is what I want.

Edit: I will ease up on the tea drinkers. Will switch to making fun of hamburger boys then... I kid, I kid

We Muricans are not fat, it's a nasty stereotype. Boy, that all you can eat Chinese buffet sound grand about now, think I'll go for 5 plates plus dessert

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/19/2017 4:53:18 AM

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quote:

Darwin, PM, Suva, those will be my fortresses (time dependent / opponent dependent / no guarantees )

Darwin will be difficult to hold because supplies will not readily 'flow' to it. PM could be ify too. At any rate it will depend on how bad your opponent wants them. I doubt either can withstand a determined attack, but good luck. Hey, you have to make an attempt to draw a line somewhere sooner or later.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/19/2017 11:16:11 PM

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That's the spirit.
The... Center.... WILL.... H O L D ! ! !

Or not.

I got the turn in before I could get torps into HQ happen, but they did OK anyway.

Dec 11 shoot the bull session

Dec 11 combat rep: Mersing and Hong Kong air power?

Edit: Incidentally, my opponent is curious what everyone is thinking about his strategy and play so far?

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/23/2017 1:42:47 AM

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OK, not much to add. You were looking at some ground unit and wondering why it would not move. It was difficult for me to see as you were out of focus, but it looked like the unit was in rest mode. Must be in combat or move mode.

As for Malaya. I think you're SOL there, as no matter which way you move you're stuck. Its obvious you can't get to Singers, but I don't think you could escape to the north either. Although it looks like north is your only move.

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Incidentally, my opponent is curious what everyone is thinking about his strategy and play so far?

Is he doing an AAR?

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/23/2017 10:16:26 PM

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Malaya is SOL. Poor Brits... Trying the north option. Why do I feel like a rat made to run through a maze by an evil scientist?

In other news, remember those Motor torpedo boats which we withdrew from Singapore to that French protectorate city on south west China coast (boy, that's a mouthful). Edit: Kwangochowan.

Well, they caught something. A huge... unescorted.... possibly invasion force.
Night time knife fight between charging torpedo boats zipping in and launching their torps and desperately defending Japanese armed merchants...

South West China torpedo boat night action

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/24/2017 3:13:19 AM

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Very nice performance by those MTBs - 5 hits for about 10 boats is excellent!
The real prize is not the three ships sunk but the troops that went down with them .... AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN SHOW IT. On the other two days of video I watched, same thing - you damage or sink Japanese ships but stop scrolling before you show the troop losses. Please do that in future so we can see how big the victory was!

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/24/2017 6:17:48 PM

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"Is he doing an AAR?"

Nope, you have to judge him by my videos and reports.

"Very nice performance by those MTBs - 5 hits for about 10 boats is excellent!"

I am still bitching, they could have done better. Kvetch kvetch kvetch.

"The real prize is not the three ships sunk but the troops that went down with them .... AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN SHOW IT. On the other two days of video I watched, same thing - you damage or sink Japanese ships but stop scrolling before you show the troop losses. Please do that in future so we can see how big the victory was!"

Well, I am new to this... and ummm... there were troops on those ships?

Looked over the combatrep.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Kwangchowan at 72,61, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAKL Banshu Maru #18
xAK Kimishima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Yamagata Maru
xAK Eiko Maru #2
xAK Konzan Maru
xAK Kuritake Maru
xAK Koyu Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Zuiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hokuhi Maru
xAK Somedono Maru
xAKL Sunten Maru
xAKL Muroran Maru
xAKL Konei Maru
xAKL Shingetsu Maru
xAKL Junpo Maru

Allied Ships
MTB 7, Shell hits 1
MTB 8
MTB 9, Shell hits 1, on fire
MTB 10
MTB 11
MTB 12
MTB 26
MTB 27

Poor visibility due to Rain with 28% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 28% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
xAK Yamagata Maru collides with xAK Kimishima Maru at 72 , 61
xAK Zuiko Maru sunk by MTB 26 at 2,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Koyu Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 12 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 8 engages xAK Kimishima Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 11 engages xAK Koyu Maru at 2,000 yards
xAK Koyu Maru sunk by MTB 9 at 2,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Kimishima Maru at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
xAK Kuritake Maru collides with xAKL Junpo Maru at 72 , 61
MTB 27 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Konzan Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 10 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 3,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Konzan Maru at 3,000 yards
MTB 10 engages xAK Yamagata Maru at 3,000 yards
MTB 8 engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
MTB 7 engages xAK Somedono Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 26 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 8 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 7 engages xAK Eiko Maru #2 at 2,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAKL Hokuhi Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 11 engages xAK Eiko Maru #2 at 2,000 yards
MTB 11 engages xAK Yamagata Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 10 engages xAKL Konei Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 9 engages xAK Yamagata Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 9 engages xAK Yamagata Maru at 2,000 yards
MTB 10 engages xAKL Hokuhi Maru at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAK Kuritake Maru at 4,000 yards
MTB 11 engages xAK Yamagata Maru at 4,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAKL Sunten Maru at 4,000 yards
MTB 10 engages xAK Yamagata Maru at 4,000 yards
MTB 8 engages xAK Konzan Maru at 4,000 yards
MTB 27 engages xAKL Hokuhi Maru at 4,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/24/2017 8:05:49 PM

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Our intelligence service has fresh scoop.
Agent codename: Steam-Chat

Message follows:

The Japanese have so far 19 MIA 12 WIA 45 KIA pilots. STOP
The enemy has accelerated building of 2 CV class ships. One CV will enter action soon. STOP
Zero production is 2.33 daily, which gives roughly 70 planes per month. STOP

Important: the veracity of this information is not confirmed, use as is!

new info: Enemy has accelerated N1K1 fighter plane. Suggest play IL2 1945 to understand capabilities of this new weapon system.

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RE: Youtube AAR: Like sheep to wolves (if sheep had air... - 5/24/2017 10:58:23 PM

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Nice work with the MTB's.

Not impressed with his use of float or torp planes bombing your ground troops. These are better used in their traditional roles, either in training or searching/naval attack. Anyway...

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