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Need more interception... - 6/4/2016 4:34:41 AM   
Der Kuenstler


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Status: offline 		It is blizzard time and I've noticed that the Russians are sending 50-90 bombers at a time to bomb my frontline units, but no matter how many they send, the most fighters that intercept are 3 or 4. My air doctrine settings look like this and I have plenty of fighters available.

Any advice?






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RE: Need more interception... - 6/4/2016 1:59:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ensure your air bases with air defense groups are located where they can intercept, as close as possible. (Assume you have.)
Set "% to fly" to a lower number to allow maximum units to participate.

Still not working? then set "fighter intercept" to much lower than 100. May be at 100 you never get enough units flying to have a mission.

My practice is 20% to fly and then 60/60 for each mission type. Works fine vs. Soviet AI.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/4/2016 6:03:01 PM   
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RE: Need more interception... - 6/4/2016 8:53:31 PM   
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Ensure your air bases with air defense groups are located where they can intercept, as close as possible. (Assume you have.)
Set "% to fly" to a lower number to allow maximum units to participate.

Still not working? then set "fighter intercept" to much lower than 100. May be at 100 you never get enough units flying to have a mission.

My practice is 20% to fly and then 60/60 for each mission type. Works fine vs. Soviet AI.



Don't you have that backwards? I thought that for Intercept etc., the number reflects the percent that that the computer will allocate to the mission as a percentage of the number it thinks are necessary for that mission.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/5/2016 2:41:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Correct, but OP's problem is that there isn't any interception getting done.

Idea is to get some AC active. If you set parameters too high, nobody flies. Suggested settings gets decent air support. Maybe not optimal, but better than nothing.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/10/2016 5:42:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		What the heck - this is still going on - you can see by one section of my front the soviets have bombed me over and over, but not even ONE of my fighters intercepted, according to my battle reports. Only my flak units fired when available. I highlighted my airbases in red - the closest ones have ready fighter units in them. They show as intercepting the recon missions but that's it. In air doctrine I have my % required to fly and fighter intercept both at 30. None of them are set on night missions. ???






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RE: Need more interception... - 6/10/2016 5:54:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Set interception to 200 and day/night (both) mode of operation.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/11/2016 8:04:01 AM   
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Set interception to 200 and day/night (both) mode of operation.


Oh OK - how do you set planes for both day and night? I only see how to toggle day or night in the CR. When I enable night they won't fly in the day to escort my bombing missions.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/11/2016 8:35:11 AM   
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RE: Need more interception... - 6/12/2016 7:10:10 PM   
Der Kuenstler


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Status: offline 		OK then - don't want to throw out my long campaign with a new patch so will keep that in mind for later. I noticed by closer observation that the computer was bombing everything at night so now I just switch all fighters to night intercept before the AI does it's turn and I'm getting results.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/12/2016 7:25:51 PM   
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RE: Need more interception... - 6/12/2016 7:31:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		By the way, "Intercept" since last few patches means how many aircraft will be the hard cap, above which the game will not send anymore to intercept, with 100% being equal to half of the attacker's number (of all types). However, there are soft caps, so usually a high value will not grant you more planes flying.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/12/2016 8:09:11 PM   
Der Kuenstler


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RE: Need more interception... - 6/12/2016 11:30:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry Morvael, what are hard and soft cap?

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/13/2016 3:48:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		hard cap - a limit which will be never exceeded
soft cap - a limit which sometimes may be exceeded but the chance to exceed it becomes smaller and smaller the higher you go above that limit

Traditional board wargames have a lot of hard caps, since hard caps are easier to memorize and to be applied by the players, but they are often unrealistic. For computer wargames I'm all for soft caps, which are more like real life conditions. You can strain those limits a little, but the cost soon becomes prohibitive.

Here I use it in a context of automated routines, so random rolls decide whether you will get above soft caps, not your own decision.

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/13/2016 9:33:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you by chance just move your airbases & are your bases receiving supply?

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RE: Need more interception... - 6/14/2016 12:53:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		They are intercepting now, thanks - see my post above...

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