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Cold War - 1/23/2018 4:49:39 PM   
Jason Petho


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Status: offline 		Speaking of Cold War... anyone know what these might be for?

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53 01 59 12 B0212200 7 Rifle Battalion 53 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
53 01 59 12 P024001 Major
53 01 59 12 P024016 Commissar
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Machine Gun Company 50 - Motorized - 7.62mm SGM (x6)/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0201200 Mortar Company 50 - Motorized - BM-37 82mm/BTR-152 (x6)
53 01 59 12 C0203200 Anti-Tank Battery 50 - Motorized - 57mm ATG (x4)/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P027008 BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P027102 GAZ-67

53 01 59 12 B0212200 7 Rifle Battalion 53 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
53 01 59 12 P024001 Major
53 01 59 12 P024016 Commissar
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Machine Gun Company 50 - Motorized - 7.62mm SGM (x6)/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0201200 Mortar Company 50 - Motorized - BM-37 82mm/BTR-152 (x6)
53 01 59 12 C0203200 Anti-Tank Battery 50 - Motorized - 57mm ATG (x4)/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P027008 BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P027102 GAZ-67

53 01 59 12 B0212200 7 Rifle Battalion 53 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
53 01 59 12 P024001 Major
53 01 59 12 P024016 Commissar
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 53 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0202200 Machine Gun Company 50 - Motorized - 7.62mm SGM (x6)/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 C0201200 Mortar Company 50 - Motorized - BM-37 82mm/BTR-152 (x6)
53 01 59 12 C0203200 Anti-Tank Battery 50 - Motorized - 57mm ATG (x4)/BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P027008 BTR-152
53 01 59 12 P027102 GAZ-67


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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 7:23:18 PM   
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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 7:34:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nailed it, Klink!

I've started compiling Soviet organizations for the Cold War game. Something I can do at work on my lunch, since I can't play the games.

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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 7:54:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jason Petho

Nailed it, Klink!

I've started compiling Soviet organizations for the Cold War game. Something I can do at work on my lunch, since I can't play the games.

Well... what to say...I've already spent more hours preparing for Tutorial '50 (TOAW IV) and recently for Tutorial '50 (CSME) than actually playing(!!!) the games... I dug myself into the dev blogs and manuals.. alas, perhaps I am missing something. Where/how to modify the weapons/units in CSME or the other CS games?

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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:02:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jason Petho

Nailed it, Klink!

I've started compiling Soviet organizations for the Cold War game. Something I can do at work on my lunch, since I can't play the games.

Well... what to say...I've already spent more hours preparing for Tutorial '50 (TOAW IV) and recently for Tutorial '50 (CSME) than actually playing(!!!) the games... I dug myself into the dev blogs and manuals.. alas, perhaps I am missing something. Where/how to modify the weapons/units in CSME or the other CS games?

Klink, Oberst


I just revamped the whole Mods Table of Contents opening post, what you want to have a look is this developer diary. It is written for JTCS, but the rules apply to CSME as well.

Unit IDs are six digit now, and more importantly; the game now reads unecrypted unit data files by default unless in PBEM or LAN play mode. Good luck!

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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:03:49 PM   
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...and more importantly; the game now reads unecrypted unit data files by default unless in PBEM or LAN play mode. Good luck!


ie. no need for the -X parameter for the game engine. Just make the changes (under a new JSGME mod), and fire her up!


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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:06:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can modify the weapons/units in CSME, I just didn't describe how to do that in the manual.

You can edit the ...OOBs/platoon##.oob files to edit or add new units. Each ## relating to a specific country.

You can edit the ...data/weapon.pdt file to edit or add new weapon values.

These edits will only work on your system.

Jason Petho



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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:29:27 PM   
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58 01 69 12 B0212200 7 Rifle Battalion 58 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
58 01 69 12 P024001 Major
58 01 69 12 P024016 Commissar
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - A - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Machine Gun Company 58 - 12.7mm DShK HMG (x6)
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Artillery Battery 58 - 107mm RATG/82mm RATG/57mm ATG
58 01 69 12 P027008 BTR-152
58 01 69 12 P027102 GAZ-67
58 01 69 12 P028036 ZPU-2 AA (x3)
58 01 69 12 P027007 BTR-152

58 01 69 12 B0212200 7 Rifle Battalion 58 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
58 01 69 12 P024001 Major
58 01 69 12 P024016 Commissar
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - B - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Machine Gun Company 58 - 12.7mm DShK HMG (x6)
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Artillery Battery 58 - 107mm RATG/82mm RATG/57mm ATG
58 01 69 12 P027008 BTR-152
58 01 69 12 P027102 GAZ-67
58 01 69 12 P028036 ZPU-2 AA (x3)
58 01 69 12 P027007 BTR-152

58 01 69 12 B0212200 7 Rifle Battalion 58 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
58 01 69 12 P024001 Major
58 01 69 12 P024016 Commissar
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Rifle Company 58 - Motorized - C - AK-47/BTR-152
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Machine Gun Company 58 - 12.7mm DShK HMG (x6)
58 01 69 12 C0202200 Artillery Battery 58 - 107mm RATG/82mm RATG/57mm ATG
58 01 69 12 P027008 BTR-152
58 01 69 12 P027102 GAZ-67
58 01 69 12 P028036 ZPU-2 AA (x3)
58 01 69 12 P027007 BTR-152

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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:29:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jason Petho

You can modify the weapons/units in CSME, I just didn't describe how to do that in the manual.

You can edit the ...OOBs/platoon##.oob files to edit or add new units. Each ## relating to a specific country.

You can edit the ...data/weapon.pdt file to edit or add new weapon values.

These edits will only work on your system.

Jason Petho



I guess Petri was reading the post and... aye, found the relevant post - Development Thread #07 - Platoon##.oob files explained - Alas, your patience with me and responsiveness is much appreciated, Jason.

I am going to work through the relevant dev posts from Berto then... no more lunch-munchies breaks for me for the next couple of days then...

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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:44:04 PM   
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Always happy to help!

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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:50:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jason Petho

You can modify the weapons/units in CSME, I just didn't describe how to do that in the manual.

You can edit the ...OOBs/platoon##.oob files to edit or add new units. Each ## relating to a specific country.

You can edit the ...data/weapon.pdt file to edit or add new weapon values.

These edits will only work on your system.

Jason Petho



I guess Petri was reading the post and... aye, found the relevant post - Development Thread #07 - Platoon##.oob files explained - Alas, your patience with me and responsiveness is much appreciated, Jason.

I am going to work through the relevant dev posts from Berto then... no more lunch-munchies breaks for me for the next couple of days then...

Klink, Oberst


Just to be sure: for a new scenario, all you need is a map, either an existing one or new via map editor, then the org file, via org editor, and then putting those together into a scenario via scenario editor. But you’re adding completely new units to unit data sets too, is that the plan?

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RE: Cold War - 1/23/2018 8:52:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the Tutorial '50 the standard .OOB platoon/weapons file will suffice. However, was just curious how to 'adjust' them a tad.

All fine. Lots of reading and trying out to do, but I am comfy I can present something by the end of the week. After all, it's the Oberst :D

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RE: Cold War - 1/24/2018 4:56:15 AM   
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RE: Cold War - 1/24/2018 4:43:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		58 01 69 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 58 - T-54B
58 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54B(x16)
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54B(x16)
58 01 69 12 P020050 HQ T-54B
58 01 69 12 P027087 ZiS-150

58 01 69 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 58 - T-54B/ISU-122
58 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54B(x16)
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54B(x16)
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Assault Gun Company 58 - ISU-122(x11)
58 01 69 12 P020050 HQ T-54B
58 01 69 12 P027087 ZiS-150

58 01 69 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 58 - T-54A
58 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54A(x16)
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54A(x16)
58 01 69 12 P020045 HQ T-54A
58 01 69 12 P027087 ZiS-150

58 01 59 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 58 - T-54A
58 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54A(x16)
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 58 - T-54A(x16)
58 01 69 12 C0200200 Assault Gun Company 58 - ISU-122(x11)
58 01 69 12 P020045 HQ T-54A
58 01 69 12 P027087 ZiS-150

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RE: Cold War - 1/24/2018 5:57:43 PM   
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RE: Cold War - 1/24/2018 6:02:02 PM   
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60 01 69 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 60 - T-55
60 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-55(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-55(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-55(x10)
60 01 69 12 P020054 HQ T-55K
60 01 69 12 P027124 ARV
60 01 69 12 P027013 BTR-152K

60 01 69 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 60 - T-54B
60 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-54B(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-54B(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-54B(x10)
60 01 69 12 P020049 HQ T-54B
60 01 69 12 P027124 ARV
60 01 69 12 P027013 BTR-152K

60 01 69 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 60 - T-54A
60 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-54A(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-54A(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-54A(x10)
60 01 69 12 P020044 HQ T-54A
60 01 69 12 P027124 ARV
60 01 69 12 P027013 BTR-152K

60 01 69 12 B0210200 7 Tank Battalion 60 - T-34/85(M1946)
60 01 69 12 P023004 Battalion HQ
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-34/85(M1946)(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-34/85(M1946)(x10)
60 01 69 12 C0200200 Tank Company 60 - T-34/85(M1946)(x10)
60 01 69 12 P020025 HQ T-34/85(M1946)
60 01 69 12 P027124 ARV
60 01 69 12 P027013 BTR-152K

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RE: Cold War - 1/26/2018 12:48:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		You know the Soviets threatened to intervene in 1973 and even put some Airborne units on alert. Some soviet units might allow for some interesting "What if's" in the Genefia Hills and Suez City. Just saying

I did a few of these "What ifs" for SPMBT a few years ago.

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RE: Cold War - 1/26/2018 12:52:57 AM   
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RE: Cold War - 1/26/2018 1:02:54 AM   
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RE: Cold War - 1/26/2018 1:15:15 AM   
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