David boutwell
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Joined: 5/28/2000
From: Haymarket, Virginia, USA
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Orzel, I think that I'm fine right here.
What did I say that was so offensive, unless something that I said hit close to home? If it did, good. Can this forum not handle someone preaching their ideas, which happen to rub someone the wrong way, from the "pulpit"?
Is there a concern that I would give "new recruits" the wrong impression of this forum? If so, where is the concern that gamers, who have an interest in what the game has to offer to those who like to focus on research and "historical" scenarios, might be turned off by what they see here. The reason why the folks that I PBEM don't come here is exactly that.
And where did I say anything that indiacted to David that I did not like what I saw about any comments that he made? Is it only ok to make comments if they are what everyone else wants to hear? He's probably a big boy and can probably speak for himself. If he is hardcore into Market Garden and trying to depict it in SPWAW, or whether he is into general scenarios, he can say, I'd imagine.
If there are several "distinct" groups of people in this forum, then, although I've been here since the beginning, I still must be too naive to spot the group that is working on developing the definitive scenarios and campaigns for most of the battles in Western Europe, after what is it, six years? That's the problem. The "and then" group is terribly under-represented (Please tell me where those threads are. After that much time, they must be here already. No need for me to start a new one). And then when one of "us" pushes for air time, it's not one of "us" that argues for restraint. Sounds like repression to me!
And give me a break about berating others' styles. If I opened a thread advocating my style (large, long scenarios, using historically designated units), do you not think that someone would "come in" and "berate" mine??? Because it wouldn't take much to raise an alternative opinion to the level of berating, based upon your standard. I would hear counter-opinions all the way to the "top". I've heard them all. Man, those other styles are just encouraged, big time!
"you are of the opinion that your vast knowledge of a topic grants you that right through the claim of "marking territory" as your own."
You've never heard of setting the standard or raising the bar? Guys can lay claim to the largest number of posts, or the most number of kills, etc., or the best looking icons or whatever they are called, but not to the real "meat and potatoes" of the game, huh? that's sad. Because if everyone said, "beat this", how would that negatively impact the game? Didn't this forum have a map contest to supposedly lay claim to a certain title? What the heck was that title gonna be??? best crossroads map? Best map with houses in the shape of a square?? No, people entered because they wanted their stuff to be judged the best. That is "marking" one's "territory", like the term or not! If someone can make a better map of whatever I do than me, I'll be the first one to download it! If somone can do a better job of power spraying my pool deck, doing my laundry and changing dirty diapers than me, I want to see it! Get the point???
Like I said, I stopped worrying so much about the picture I painted. I'm not here to win a popularity contest, and i'm not here to find opponents. I'm here to advocate for some balance. And in this arena, it won't happen by tossing rose petals at people. You can think that i'm an a-hole or not. that's your choice, and I'm not going to loose a tremendous amount of sleep over it. But at the end of the day, if you and I have a common goal or interest, we'll still talk, because there aren't a lot of guys out there who have an interest in working on graphics/icons, making maps and studying Western Europe campaigns and battles with a fine-toothed comb. I'll contact an a-hole any day if they know something that I want or need to know. I learned that from my college organic chemistry professor.
So, lets stop this crap, and whomever wants to talk about Market Garden stuff, chime in! Or you can continue to perpetuate exactly what you are arguing against.
David Boutwell
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