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Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/1/2021 4:11:02 PM   
marty01

 

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Status: offline 		The last two 1941 campaign games I've played -- both since the last patch -- Allied supply lines are arbitrarily switched off for a turn or two through Thailand. Moreover the Allies complete tossing the Japanese out of Burma and are moving through Thailand when suddenly all supply lines from Burma into Thailand go nil. This even when the turn prior turn logistical pathways are clearing crossing into Thailand. And its not partisans -- I double checked that both time it occurred.

There's been a lot of map changes in Thailand and northern Malaya since the last match -- mostly removal or ports. It Feels like some logistics pathing may have gotten broken in Thailand as an indirect result of the last patch.
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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/1/2021 4:36:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wish I could post images here to show you what's occurring. I have a save file from the end of the Allies (Human/Me) March 12, 1944 turn in which allied supply lines are being traced all the way to the outskirts of of Bangkok. Clear weather. Start of the next turn -- STILL clear weather -- AND no partisan activity in Thailand -- and the Allied supply lines are all suddenly stopped again at the Burma Boarder.

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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/1/2021 6:02:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a known issue with Main vs. Port supply.

This is a screenshot from my AAR so it is dated, but still seems to apply. Main supply traces from India. Capturing Rangoon did not cause a problem however Once I captured Moulmein, Port Supply kicked in. And it stays this way going forward. However the farther I advanced, Main Supply pushed out to the Salween River.

Most of your units will be in Basic Supply, which is a pain, but manageable. You units will not take replacements and will recover effectiveness at a much lower rate. I dealt with this by rotating fresh units into the line, pulling back those that need replacements and improved effectiveness.

The more ports you capture in Malaya will help. It will allow you to patch up a few units and rotate them to the front. However his does slow things down a bit, and it can get worse when you capture all of Indochina.




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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/1/2021 11:45:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		It doesnt sound like this is quit the same issue. Or maybe its an old issue that's been compounded in the last patch by the removal of several key ports in the area.

Your saying you are in basic supply in your old screen shot. What I have been seeing is the Supply chain turns on and then off between successive turns. So I am in basic supply all the way down to Bangkok. Then the next turn all supply into Thailand inexplicably turns completely off like a switch -- as in zero supply -- not even basic. Rangoon had already been in Allied possession for at least two turns when this on and off supply switch started occurring. One turn its on --the next its off. So I am yoyoing back and forth toward the Burma boarder not knowing if I'll be stranded in Thailand with zero supply.

Regarding your older screen shot -- the two ports SE of Rangoon on the start of the Malaysian Peninsula are no longer Ports. Ones just an airfield now and the other is a city without a port. I didn't used to have this issue. Moreover, capping Rangoon and then capping these two additional smaller ports maintained basic Supply to a Allied units in Thailand until Bangkok falls.

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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/1/2021 11:51:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah -- just looked at the Map again and Moulmein used to be a port as did Tavoy. Both of which used to be key to maintaining basic supply to Allied units in Thailand. In the last patch the ports at both Moulmein and Tavoy were removed.

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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/2/2021 12:33:33 AM   
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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/2/2021 12:35:42 AM   
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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/2/2021 2:31:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let me look at this. Maybe I will put in an on/off switch for using which supply source. I was thinking about this the last week.

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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/2/2021 3:38:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I ran a game and saw the issue. Nothing a supply depot can't fix.

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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/11/2021 5:37:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know supply and logistics were -- in reality -- a huge issue during the Burma Campaign. For both sides. So the first time I saw this I assumed it was an intended game mechanic. But after seeing it switch on and off in couple successive solo games it didn't really feel like it was an intentional effect given how tracing supply works on other parts of the map.

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RE: Tracing Supply Through Thailand - 11/12/2021 7:22:25 PM   
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