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Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/12/2005 11:20:31 PM   
ckk

 

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Status: offline 		Almost hate to bring this up as I have told others that it doesn't happen, But I moved from 11/30/42 to 12/1/42 and the British withdrawal went from zero to 2 DD (300). I only had 1 qualifying destroyer on 11/30 and I only have 1 qualifying destroyer on 12/1 Hotspur in both cases. I withdrew Hotspur and still had a reqiurement of 1 DD (300). Any ideas
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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/12/2005 11:39:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome to the world of withdrawals...

You are just SOL i'm afraid...

It won't ask for capital ships you don't have but it will require escorts even if there are none.

< Message edited by rogueusmc -- 2/12/2005 3:40:02 PM >

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/12/2005 11:49:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I only return BB's, CL's and CLAA's. I suck up the PP points otherwise. I've got plenty of PP's now. No sense using them for officer replacements when the officers may vanish.

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 12:10:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Follow up to my no destroyer problem. I searched and found that Mr. Frag said the check by the AI might be anytime during the month. I went back to 11/1/42 and I had a requirement to Withdraw a CV and 2 DD's. I had 3 British DD's, Hotspur ,Griffen and Fortune. I lost no British DD's in November Made the withdrawals and then 12/1 I get the demand for 2 more DD's When does the AI make the check?

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 12:14:03 AM   
ckk

 

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Status: offline 		Yes it does Have you sent Frag a save?

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 5:58:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		No need, working as designed ... live with the DD price tag.

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:02:13 AM   
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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:10:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK just didn't know it happened. Since it isn't in the manual is there any chance it will be fixed or explained in 1.5 or later?

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:12:20 AM   
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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:15:30 AM   
ckk

 

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Status: offline 		OK just wanted to know. Thanx

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:26:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Humm seems to me that if it is just always 2 DD's possiable then in Port one might keep 2 DD's on hand... Look at it as 2 DD's crew getting weeks of overhauling time on their Dd's tieds up in port each month..



Then You will always have 2 DD's.. if withdraw 2, send 2 to port for the month..

Unless things get bad for Allies they have LOTS of other DD's to use

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:31:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		But you run out of DDs is what he's saying.

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:36:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Right, it's not broken. If you want them, then keep em. You can always pay Peter later if you're low on PP's. Just make sure you have control of restricted command units before you go in debt.

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 8:49:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		the British start with few DD and get few replacements. Just because the Allies have lots of DD doesnt help the withdrawal of British ships. The one or 2 Australian Destroyers in the Indian Ocean cant be used for withdrawal either.

In response to the "the allies have lots of DD's comment"

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 9:20:33 AM   
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So this is a PP tax on the allies. If the game asks the player to withdraw more ships than he ever had, then it is little more than a contrived method of reducing PP. We can live with it, but don't have to agree with it.

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 10:24:10 AM   
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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 12:55:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

"Working as designed."

So this is a PP tax on the allies. If the game asks the player to withdraw more ships than he ever had, then it is little more than a contrived method of reducing PP. We can live with it, but don't have to agree with it.


Why am I starting to dislike the design philosophy behind this game more and more?

I thought that I bought a historical simulation. Then I thought it was a historical simulation with bugs. Now I am finding out that it is a fantasy war game with bugs.

Okay, I'm being overly cynical, but this is becoming truly disappointing.

Sincerely -

Dave Baranyi

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 5:54:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK But I already wasted thousands of PP's changing the 40th Division piecemeal to Centpac and then have it revert to West Coast when I recombined it. Another unknown "design" BTW there is a workaround if you are playing the AI or have a really nice PBEM opponent - replay the turn and hope it doesn't happen again.

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RE: Not enough ships for British withdrawal - 2/13/2005 6:44:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ckk

OK But I already wasted thousands of PP's changing the 40th Division piecemeal to Centpac and then have it revert to West Coast when I recombined it. Another unknown "design" BTW there is a workaround if you are playing the AI or have a really nice PBEM opponent - replay the turn and hope it doesn't happen again.

The more you play the more you learn


I had this with an USAFFE air squadron. Break it down, use PP's to change command to SEA, Recombine and you are back to it being an USAFFE air squadron. I sent a copy of the save to Pry and it was being looked into. Guess it isn't just happening to air squadrons

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