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Do small elite units need to accumlate prep points? - 7/1/2005 6:22:22 PM   
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Paratroopers, raiders, SNLF and such. Will they perform well without a load of prep points or do they need to accumulate them?

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RE: Do small elite units need to accumlate prep points? - 7/1/2005 6:27:33 PM   
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I'm sure they work exactly the same as other LCU's. They'll work without prep, but will work better with prep.

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RE: Do small elite units need to accumlate prep points? - 7/1/2005 6:32:49 PM   
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All LCU formations benefit from prep points.

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RE: Do small elite units need to accumlate prep points? - 7/1/2005 6:37:26 PM   
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I was kinda curious about that too.

It's been my (limited) experience that you need prep points, esp when assaulting atolls (because you're immediately compelled to shock attack).

My "let's see what happens" attack with the entire 2nd USMC Raider Btn, didn't work so well. They enter the game prepped for PH, at 100. But I forgot to change ti, and I loaded 'em up on a bunch of subs (with supplies), and dropped 'em on Jaliut. Intel said only 1200 guys there, so would probably be just the original Base Force. The landing proved this to be true. However, even when the whole unit landed same turn (I used a lot subs), all of my assault squads were disabled. I attacked at 0 - 1 (40 Assault Strength, adjusted to 0!). His BF only had an ADJUSTED assault value of 4 (so they were sitting ducks). But 0 vs 4, still doesn't work.

(* shrug *)

Wasn't terminal. Just a bunch of disabled squad. I loaded 'em back on the boats, and they're on the way home.

Disappointed yes. But not suprised. I shouldda prepped. Of course, I might have gotten a bad roll on unloading or whatever. Who knows.

Now you probably -could- get away with not prepping some of the Japanese units in early 42, until the unloading bonus expires (end of March 42). In all of my PBEM games, I see small Japanese formations landing on the "annoying islands" (small islands that you want, that are undefended, but not worth a full-scale invasion). Since they -are- successful, and I'm sure they're -NOT- spending a bunch of time prepping for an undefended island, I can only assume that their combat effectiveness is retained, due to the unloading bonus thru end of March.

I expect tho, that you had better spend some time prepping if you're Japan, after March 42.

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RE: Do small elite units need to accumlate prep points? - 7/1/2005 9:19:55 PM   
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If you loaded the subs on the west coast with the marine unit they might have taken so long to arrive at your DH that they started to deteriorate on their own as units do if they are onboard for too long. If they were loaded at Pearl Harbour you might have had less disabled squads on arrival.

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RE: Do small elite units need to accumlate prep points? - 7/1/2005 10:10:45 PM   
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Actually, they loaded at Palmyra. But yes, you are very correct, the longer the boat-ride, the unit will land already fatigued.

I've had LCUs ride all the way from PH to Brisbane. They land very fatigued. You DON'T want to land them directly on a malaria base when they're already very fatigued. Land 'em at a non-malaria base, let them recover, then send them the last leg to their destination.

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RE: Do small elite units need to accumlate prep points? - 7/4/2005 9:48:51 PM   
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It just seems af if a small, raider or paratrooper units should face less of a penalty for lack of prep points. These smaller units should be attacking smaller targets and have the ability to plan and prepare faster due to the nature of the unit and the operations that they were trained to perform. Not a big deal, just a thought.

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