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CHS OOB errata - 12/21/2005 8:43:45 PM   
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In the latest build CL Montpelier is available in Panama Dec 41. Something must have happened when changing arrival ports.

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/10/2006 8:13:04 PM   
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I did not see Cahoone in the latest OOB

Cahoone, 1927

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CLASS: Active Class Patrol Boat

BUILDER: American Brown Boveri Electric Corp., Camden, NJ

COMMISSIONED: 21 February 1927

LAUNCHED: 27 January 1927

DECOMMISSIONED: 11 March 1968 and sold 12 December 1968

DISPLACEMENT: 232 tons

PROPULSION: 2 x 6-cylinder, 300 hp engines

LENGTH: 125 feet

BEAM: 23 feet, 6 inches

DRAFT: 7 feet, 6 inches

PERFORMANCE:

Max speed: 13 knots, 1945, 2,500 mile range
Econ. speed: 8.0 knots, 3,500 mile range

COMPLEMENT: 3 officers, 17 men (1960)

ARMAMENT: 1927: 1x 3"/27
1941: 1 x 3"/23, 2 x depth charge tracks
1945: 1 x 40mm/80 (single), 2 x 20mm/80 (single), 2 x depth charge tracks, 2 x mousetraps
1960: 1 x 40mm/60


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CLASS HISTORY:

This class of vessels was one of the most useful and long- lasting in Coast Guard service with 16 cutters still in use in the 1960’s. The last to be decommissioned from active service was the Morris in 1970; the last in actual service was the Cuyahoga, which sank after an accidental collision in 1978. They were designed for trailing the "mother ships" along the outer line of patrol during Prohibition. They were constructed at a cost of $63,173 each. They gained a reputation for durability that was only enhanced by their re-engining in the late 1930’s; their original 6-cylinder diesels were replaced by significantly more powerful 8-cylinder units that used the original engine beds and gave the vessels 3 additional knots. All served in World War II, but two, the Jackson and Bedloe, were lost in a storm in 1944. Ten were refitted as buoy tenders during the war and reverted to patrol work afterward.


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CUTTER HISTORY

Stationed at Stapleton, NY, she took part in the rescue of survivors of the cruise ship Morro Castle, which burned off New Jersey in 1934. She was at Curtis Bay, MD, in 1936 and at Morehead City, NC, in 1937. By 1940 she was t San Pedro, CA, where she remained through World War II. From 1946 to 1954 she was at Mt. Edgecumbe, AK. She was stationed at Galveston, TX, until 1968.


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SOURCES

Cutter History File. USCG Historian's Office, USCG HQ, Washington, D.C.

Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships. Washington, DC: USGPO.

Robert Scheina. U.S. Coast Guard Cutters & Craft of World War II. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 1982.

Robert Scheina. U.S. Coast Guard Cutters & Craft, 1946-1990. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 1990.



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Active Class CGC Ewing

The CGC Ewing was originally based at New London, Connecticut and Boston, Massachusetts, before being reassigned to San Pedro, California, in May 1930. She remained on the West Coast during the 1930s. During World War II she performed ASW training at San Diego, California. She was at Seward, Alaska from 1946-1947 and was laid up due to lack of personnel from 1947-1948). She was at Alameda, California from 1949-1960 and at Monterey, California from 1960-1967.



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Active Class Morris

Morris (WSC-147) was built in 1927 by American Brown Boveri Electrical Corp., Camden, New Jersey, and was commissioned in the Coast Guard 19 April 1927. She operated first out of New London, Connecticut, as a patrol craft of the 125-foot active class until 22 November 1928. She then assumed her permanent station at Oakland, California, on 13 January 1929. Five months later she was assigned patrol operations out of San Pedro, California. Until 1934 Morris operated intermittently against rumrunners. She transferred to Seward, Alaska, in 1935 where she remained until 1937. She then transferred to Alameda, California in 1940 and was based out of Marshfield, Oregon from 1941 through her transfer to Navy control under Executive Order 8929 of 1 November 1941 that transferred the entire Coast Guard to the Navy. Morris was assigned to patrol and rescue operations out of San Diego. She returned to the Treasury Department 1 January 1946 pursuant to Executive Order 9666 dated 28 January 1945.



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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/10/2006 8:41:44 PM   
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Haida is in as a Taney but is a Modoc 240' Cutter. Guess this was done due to shortage of slots?

Haida, 1921

WPG-45


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North American Indians inhabiting the Queen Charlotte Islands, British Columbia, and parts of Prince of Wales Island, Alaska. They also inhabit Dall Island, Long Island and other islands in the southern-most areas of the Alaskan panhandle.


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Builder: Union Construction Company, Oakland, California

Length: 240'

Beam: 39'

Draft: 13' 2"

Displacement: 1,506 tons (trial); 1,955 tons (1945)

Cost: $775,000

Commissioned: 26 October 1921

Decommissioned: 13 February 1947

Disposition: Sold, 20 January 1948

Machinery: 1 x General Electric 2,040 kVa electric motor driven by a turbo-generator; 2 x Babcock & Wilcox, cross-drum type, 200 psi, 750° F superheat

Performance:

Maximum speed/endurance: 16.2 knots on trial (1921)
Maximum sustained: 15.5 knots, 3,500 mile radius (1945)
Economic speed/endurance: 9.0 knots @ 5,500 mile radius (1945)

Complement: 14 officers, 2 warrants, 80 men (1945).

Electronics:

Detection Radar: SA; SL
Sonar: QCJ-3

Armament:

1921: 2 x 5"/51 single mounts; 2 x 6 pounders; 1 x 1 pounder
1942: 2 x 5"/51 single mounts; 1 x 3/50 (single); 2 x .50 caliber machine guns; 4 x "Y" guns; 2 depth charge tracks.
1943: 2 x 3"/50 single mounts; 4 x 20 mm/80 (single); 2 x depth charge tracks; 4 x "K" guns; 2 x mousetraps.


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Class History:
by John Tilley

The four 240-foot cutters were conceived as the first true "multi-mission" Coast Guard cutters, equipped for police work in territorial waters, ice patrol, search and rescue, derelict destruction, and towing. Each ship had a remarkably heavy armament of two 5-inch guns, with a provision for the wartime installation of a third, and a 3-inch anti-aircraft gun. A turbo-electric drive system gave the cutters a top speed of sixteen knots, which seemed plenty for the Coast Guard's peacetime missions. The four ships were built by the Union Construction Company of Oakland, California. The entry of the United States into the Second World War sent the Coast Guard on a search for hulls that could be turned into convoy escorts. The 240-foot cutters were fitted out with depth charges, additional guns, sonar, radar, and any other gear that could be crammed into them. The Modoc and two of its sisters, Mojave and Tampa, were assigned to the treacherous Greenland Patrol; the fourth ship in the class, the Haida, spent the war in Alaskan waters. All four were decommissioned and sold in 1947.

Additionally, Robert Scheina notes that:

"The 240-foot cutters followed the traditional cutter hull form, having a plumb bow and counter stern. These features proved particularly undesirable while on International Ice Patrol. Heavy seas coming up under the counter caused severe shocks. The wardroom in this class was well forward; thus, the deck sloped upward. This feature was known as the 'Honeywell Hill,' in honor of the principal architect of the class." (1)


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Cutter History:

The Haida was laid down on 27 September 1920 at the Union Construction Company of Oakland California. She was christened by Mrs. Frank G. Law when launched on 19 April 1921. She was then commissioned on 4 October 1921 under the command of Lieutenant Commander John F. Hottel. She then sailed to the Mare Island Navy Yard to receive her armament.

The Haida was first stationed at Seattle, Washington and began a peacetime career on the annual Bering Sea Patrols. She first sailed to Unalaska, the headquarters for the Patrol, and then sailed on her assigned tasks, which included acting as a floating court for the inhabitants of the isolated areas she sailed, caring for the sick, conducting search and rescue activities, checking on aids to navigation, regulating fisheries, and other duties. With Prohibition being the law of the land after the passage of the Volstead Act in 1919, the Haida and her sister cutters became the main enforcement arm of the federal government's effort to prevent liquor smuggling at sea, thereby adding another duty to an already full plate. The Haida apparently had little luck in stopping any smuggling but nevertheless continued to carry out her other tasks. In 1924 Haida, in concert with the cutter Algonquin, sailed in support of the U.S. Army's World Flight, the first attempt to circumnavigate the globe by air. (2)

On the night of 22 May 1928 the Alaska Packers' Star of Falkland ran aground and called for assistance. The Haida, Unalga, and the Lighthouse Service tender Cedar responded. Using her boats the Haida's crew began rescuing the survivors. In the end the Cedar rescued 250, the Haida 47, and the Unalga 5. Another notable search and rescue case occurred when the steamship Victoria grounded off Pointer Island, British Columbia on 30 December 1934. The Haida stood by the grounded vessel after reaching the scene on the 31st, ready to assist if needed. Before a rescue attempt could be made, however, the weather conditions worsened. Fortunately as the weather cleared on 2 January 1935 the Victoria was refloated and made port safely. In December of 1938 the Haida once again went to the rescue, this time to save the shipwrecked survivors of the Patterson, which went aground and was smashed "to pieces" near Lituya Bay. The Haida's rescue party managed to hike to the survivors' campsite which was well away from the shore. Each of the 21 survivors was suffering from exposure and hypothermia but all were safely escorted back to the shore, where the Haida's launch got them to the cutter. (3)

On 7 December 1941 the Haida was at the Puget Sound Navy Yard undergoing repairs. The work was completed in January, 1942, and she departed Port Townsen on 13 January. On 16 January, while leaving Grenville Channel en route Ketchikan the Haida assisted in trying to float the USAT Branch aground for many days at Hamer Island, B. C. but after pulling unsuccessfully with the CGC Hemlock on the 17th, she transported some soldiers to Prince Rupert, leaving the Branch to salvage underwriters. Arriving at Ketchikan 20 January 1942 she began escorting the SS Columbia and the USAT Gorgas in Icy Strait on the 23rd, arriving at Kind Cove on the 29th. The Haida later escorted the Gorgas to Cape Decision. On February 21st she was escorting the SS Yukon across the Gulf of Alaska, mooring at Juneau. Departing on the 27th she started escorting the USAT Chas. L. Wheeler to Seward, but returned to Icy Straits because of heavy weather.

On March 10th she arrived at King Cove and went to the assistance of the Mount McKinley ashore 1-1/2 miles west of Scotch Cap. The Yukon and Hattfield were standing by off shore but unable to communicate with the stranded vessel and heavy seas prevented a close approach. On the 12th it stopped snowing and 127 passengers, officers and crew were observed pulling seaward in five lifeboats, all being safely rescued and landed at Dutch Harbor. Departing for Akutan with officers and men from the Mount McKinley on 11 March 1942, she intercepted a message from the YP-86 in distress off North Head, Akutan Island. She led the YP safely in Umnak Bight on the 15th, removing machine guns and platform from over the pilot house to stabilize her. On the 16th she convoyed the YP to Dutch Harbor. On the 22nd the Haida returned to the Mount McKinley to salvage such stores and equipment as she could but weather conditions prevented her and she returned to Dutch Harbor.

On March 23rd, 1942, the Haida escorted the USAT Delaroff to Nikolski on Umnak Island and on April 14th accompanied her on trip to Chernofski and return. On the 30th she contacted the USAT Goldbrook off Chernofski and escorted her and the Delaroff past Unimak Pass towards Seattle. On May 1st the Haida escorted the SS Aleutian to Cape Pankof. On the 18th she called at Sitka and loaded 32 tons of torpedoes and ammunition for Women's Bay, then, still heavily loaded, escorted the USAT North Coast to Cold Bay, returning to Dutch Harbor. She helped search for a submarine on the 27th and then proceeded to Chernofski to patrol and guard merchant shipping until June 3rd.

Returning to Dutch Harbor on the 12th she escorted the USAT Downey to Otter Point guarding her as she unloaded aviation gasoline. Reports on the Haida during latter part of 1942 are partially missing. From 23 to 29 August 1942, she escorted vessels off the Kenai Peninsula, eastward to Seward.

During the week ending October 17th, 1942, she escorted 16 merchant vessels between Yukitat, Women's Bay, and Pleasant Island. After escorting six vessels with one naval escort to Pleasant Island on 26 October 1942, she proceeded to Juneau and returning to Pleasant Island on the 28th, she escorted six vessels to St. Paul Harbor. During the week of 28 November 1942, she escorted convoys west of Cape Spencer, Pleasant Island and St. Paul, heaving to off Kodiak Island on 1 December 1942., to escort the SS North Pacific to Kodiak, following which she escorted her onward to Pleasant Island. Returning to Juneau she departed for Pleasant Island on the 12th to escort two vessels to Seward where she arrived on the 14th departing the same day to escort a vessel to St. Paul arriving on the 15th. On the 20th she escorted vessels to Juneau, arriving on 26 December 1942.

On 1 January 1943, the Haida arrived at Seattle where she remained in overhaul status until 23 February 1943. After tests the next day she proceeded to Port Angeles where she began escorting a convoy to Alaska. Intensive training was carried on en route and on March 14th she anchored at Cold Bay, reporting to Commander, Alaskan Sector for duty. On the 5th while escorting a vessel to Dutch Harbor she expended two depth charges on an underwater contact with negative results. The remainder of March was spent in escort duty between Dutch Harbor and Chernofski, guarding a cable ship at Kelekta Bay escorting vessels to Atka Island, returning with a convoy to Dutch Harbor on the 27th. She left for Adak on the 29th. From then until the end of April she was engaged in anti-submarine patrol and escort duty between Adak and Atka Islands, dropping depth charges on a doubtful contact on at least one occasion. During May 1943, the Haida was engaged In escort duty between Dutch Harbor and Chernofski Harbor, conducting occasional anti-submarine patrols. This duty continued during June, the Haida dropping eight charges on a fair contact on the 12th with no results.

On 27 June 1943, the Haida stood out for weather patrol station "A" at 49° N x 148° W, assuming the station on the 30th. On July 18th she departed the station for Seattle, returning to the station on August 5th and again returning to Seattle on August 27th. Her weather station duties were not again assumed until September 9th, whence they continued until her arrival at Seattle on 28 September 1943. She was on weather patrol between October 10-26. On this patrol she fired 14 projectiles and three depth charges on a possible submarine contact. She again patrolled weather station "A" between November 18 and December 9, 1943, and was underway to the station at the end of the year.

The Haida continued to patrol Weather Station "A" at fortnightly intervals throughout the year 1944, basing on Seattle. This duty continued through 1945 and until 18 March 1946. Returning to Seattle 25 March 1946, she arrived at Ketchikan on 4 April 1946, for a series of operations between Alaskan ports and Continental U. S. ports, which brought her back to Seattle on 6 May 1946; Pelican City on 25 August 1946; Prince Rupert on 2 September 1946; Seattle on 16 September 1946, 2 October 1946 and 20 October 1946. (4)

She was decommissioned on 13 February 1947. She was sold in 1948 and later scrapped in 1951 by the Puget Sound Bridge and Dredging Company. (5)

She was known to her crew as the "Haida Maru." (6)


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Notes & Sources:

1) As quoted in Scheina, Robert, U.S. Coast Guard Cutters & Craft of World War II (Annapolis: Naval Institute Press, 1981), p. 33.

2) Johnson, Robert, Bering Sea Escort: Life Aboard a Coast Guard Cutter in World War II (Annapolis: Naval Institute Press, 1992), pp. 1-34.

3) Ibid., pp. 10-11.

4) U.S. Coast Guard. Historical Section, Public Information Division. The Coast Guard at War Series, Volume V: Transports and Escorts: Volume 1: Escorts ( Washington, DC: Coast Guard Headquarters, March 1, 1949), pp. 67-70.



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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/10/2006 9:10:08 PM   
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Onondaga is in as a Taney but is a seperate class as well

Onondaga, 1934

WPG-79


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A Native American people formerly inhabiting the eastern Finger Lakes region of west-central New York, with present-day populations in this same area and in southeast Ontario. The Onondaga are one of the original members of the Iroquois confederacy.
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Builder: Defoe Works, Bay City, Michigan
Commissioned: 11 September 1934

Decommissioned: 24 July 1947

Displacement: 1,005 tons

Cost: $563,800

Propulsion/Machinery:

Main Engines: 1 x DeLaval double-reduction geared turbine; 1,500 shp
Main Boilers: 2 x Babcock & Wilcox; 310 psi, 200°F superheat
Propellers: 1 x four-bladed

Performance/Endurance:

Maximum Speed: 12.8 knots; 1,350 mile range
Economic: 9.4 knots; 5,079 mile range

Fuel Oil: 41,500 gallons

Complement: 6 officers, 56 men (1934)

Armament:

1934: 2 x 3"/50; 2 x 6-pounders
1942: 2 x 3"/50; 2 x 20mm/80 (single mount); 2 x depth charge tracks; 4 x "Y" guns; 2 mousetraps.

Electronics:

Radar: SF
Sonar: QCJ-3 (1945)


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CLASS HISTORY:

The 165-foot "A" class cutters were based on the 1915 Tallapoosa/Ossipee design. They were designed for light ice-breaking as well, and were constructed with a reinforced belt at the waterline and a cutaway forefoot. They could break up to two feet of ice. They were also the first cutters with geared turbine drives. They were constructed utilizing Public Works Administration construction allotments, a program established to aid the country after the onset of the Great Depression. Other cutters in the 165-foot (A) class cutters were: Algonquin (WPG-75); Comanche (WPG-76); Escanaba (WPG-77); Mohawk (WPG-78); and Tahoma (WPG-80).

Click here to access an article written in 1935 that describes, in great detail, a 165-foot "A" Class cutter and her crew. The author, D. E. ("Gim") Hobelman, was given free access to the Escanaba and he describes her from stem to stern. His comments are equally applicable to the other cutters in Escanaba's class.


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CUTTER HISTORY:

The second cutter to carry the name Onondaga was launched on 2 August 1934 by the Defoe Works in Bay City, Michigan. She was commissioned on 11 September 1934 and was first stationed at Astoria, Oregon. She transferred to Ketchikan, Alaska in 1941. She was attacked by Imperial Japanese Navy aircraft on 3 June 1942 at Dutch Harbor, Alaska, but there were no casualties.


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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/10/2006 11:04:19 PM   
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British DD Barfluer (Battle class). Should it be Barfleur?

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/11/2006 9:20:59 AM   
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Fort Gelibrand (2565) is planning for 61th Air Flotilla

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/11/2006 2:37:46 PM   
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Thanks. Keep them coming. I will eventually check these things...

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/11/2006 9:49:19 PM   
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Stock and CHS error: Australian DDs Quiberon and Quickmatch are of Saumarez Class. Should be Q class.

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Commonwealth LCU's - 1/12/2006 8:02:39 PM   
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I've noticed that certain Commonwealth LCU's have Indian Light Squads in the place you might expect to find CW Rifle Squads. Is this correct?

Examples are 11th East African Div, and 3rd West African BDE. There might be others - I will look if you tell me this condition is incorrect.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/14/2006 12:22:49 AM   
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APD Greene in stock Manley class, in CHS Crossley class. Was converted flushdecker - so should be back to stock Manley class.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/14/2006 12:56:06 AM   
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The Chinese units at 52,25 (181, 2267, 2268, 2331) don´t have a supply source. If you try to move them they run out of supply in a few days.

I suggest giving them more at start supply. The same as Chinese Guerrilla Corps

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/14/2006 1:41:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

Thanks. Keep them coming. I will eventually check these things...

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Don Bowen has all the goods on the Coast Guard OOB issues.


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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/14/2006 3:29:59 AM   
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There is a US Realiance class PC named Atalanta. I am questioning this because the spelling is wierd - should it be Atlanta, or is Atalanta correct?

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/14/2006 3:50:44 AM   
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There is a US Realiance class PC named Atalanta. I am questioning this because the spelling is wierd - should it be Atlanta, or is Atalanta correct?


Atalanta is the correct spelling - it is a name from greek mythology. Some of her sister ships were also named from Greek mythology.

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/14/2006 4:26:55 AM   
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Like Fort Gelibrand, Direction Battery (2579) is prepping for 61st Air Flotilla.

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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/14/2006 6:10:28 AM   
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There is a US Realiance class PC named Atalanta. I am questioning this because the spelling is wierd - should it be Atlanta, or is Atalanta correct?


Atalanta is the correct spelling - it is a name from greek mythology. Some of her sister ships were also named from Greek mythology.


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RE: CHS OOB errata - 1/17/2006 5:49:51 AM   
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Typo:

The P-47N Thunderbolt is incorrectly spelled "Thuderbolt" ('n' is missing). The P-47C and D models are fine.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/17/2006 11:03:48 PM   
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I've noticed that certain Commonwealth LCU's have Indian Light Squads in the place you might expect to find CW Rifle Squads. Is this correct?

Examples are 11th East African Div, and 3rd West African BDE. There might be others - I will look if you tell me this condition is incorrect.


I checked stadard scenario 15 - the African units have CW Rifle squads. I'm assuming that the Indian Light Squads in CHS are an error.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 2:37:42 AM   
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Found this by accident. I'm not sure if this is right or not, but it certainly seems like too many guns for a 1500 capacity AP:








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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 2:48:46 AM   
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Found this by accident. I'm not sure if this is right or not, but it certainly seems like too many guns for a 1500 capacity AP:



Nope, it's correct. That is a passenger ship converted to an Armed Merchant Cruiser. It retains a good portion of it's troop carrying capacity and there are many of instances of AMCs carrying troops. If not so converted in would have at least twice the capacity.



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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 3:42:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ctangus

Found this by accident. I'm not sure if this is right or not, but it certainly seems like too many guns for a 1500 capacity AP:



Nope, it's correct. That is a passenger ship converted to an Armed Merchant Cruiser. It retains a good portion of it's troop carrying capacity and there are many of instances of AMCs carrying troops. If not so converted in would have at least twice the capacity.





Thanks Don. I learn something(s) new everyday on these boards.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 3:57:16 AM   
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Some of the AMCs are also defined as PG in CHS. An anomaly of the WITP system allows only a single defintion of capacity: for warships it is aircraft capacity and for all others it is cargo capacity. So AMCs defined as AP can carry troops while AMCs defined as PG lose their troop-carrying ability but can carry a couple of aircraft. A few others are classed as minelayers (also losing the ability to carry troops).

During the war most AMCs were eventually retired and used as transports or other auxiliaries. Upgrade paths for most of the AMC classes in CHS point to conventional transports.


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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 6:43:46 AM   
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American Baltimore class CL Perth arrives mid 1943 with RAAF Walrus aircraft aboard the fantail !

I cannot get American Vth Amphib Corps to embark on ships !
(It arrives in Frisco for Central Pacific).

Don, you did tremendous work on the ships..............

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 7:44:19 PM   
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American Baltimore class CL Perth arrives mid 1943 with RAAF Walrus aircraft aboard the fantail !


This doesn't sound right at all. HMAS Perth is on the board at the start of the scenario and should not re-spawn (much less to a Baltimore class). The Walrus is correct for the original Perth.

Sorry, I can be no help on this one.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 8:38:53 PM   
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I had a top RAF or RAAF pilot {forget which} that was listed in the top pilot list as being USN. This was after one of the 1.79x patches and I assumed this was from the patch {fragment of his squadron showed up in Dutch Harbor}.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/18/2006 11:41:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

quote:

American Baltimore class CL Perth arrives mid 1943 with RAAF Walrus aircraft aboard the fantail !


This doesn't sound right at all. HMAS Perth is on the board at the start of the scenario and should not re-spawn (much less to a Baltimore class). The Walrus is correct for the original Perth.

Sorry, I can be no help on this one.


Actually, I won't gripe too much as the Walrus has a range of 6 and the old biplanes of pre WW2 only have range of 3..
Yeah, my report is factual..It IS the Baltimore class "PERTH".....
BTW, there is an asterisk or something behind the name of the ship, as if it is a replacement, but it is for the USN.......


< Message edited by m10bob -- 1/18/2006 11:42:24 PM >


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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/19/2006 7:24:56 AM   
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Hmmm... sounds like a glitch in the respawn system. The Baltimore class were heavy cruisers, not CLs. Is the ship listed as a Baltimore class CL? Does it have 9x8" guns?

Like you said, the Walrus has better range than the a/c the USN put aboard her, so maybe you should just consider heer a gift to His Majesty's Royal Australian Navy from a grateful United States Government...

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/20/2006 4:23:59 PM   
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While playing I noticed that HMS Ramillies is spelled RAMILLES.

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/20/2006 10:30:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Hmmm... sounds like a glitch in the respawn system. The Baltimore class were heavy cruisers, not CLs. Is the ship listed as a Baltimore class CL? Does it have 9x8" guns?

Like you said, the Walrus has better range than the a/c the USN put aboard her, so maybe you should just consider heer a gift to His Majesty's Royal Australian Navy from a grateful United States Government...

Yep............My bad...............I checked and it is showing as a Baltimore class CA with those 8/55 guns..All is identical to the other Baltimores, (of course), except for the Walrus aircraft of S4/9 RAAF...The listed Captain is Irwin.

Still do not know why the Vth Amphib Corps in Frisco will not embark ??

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RE: Commonwealth LCU's - 1/21/2006 12:53:58 AM   
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WITPQS - CW squads upgrade to Indian Light squads. There is a slight gain in combat ratings, forget when it happens but you should be able to see it in db as I'm not with my laptop.

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