Shannon V. OKeets
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Joined: 5/19/2005 From: Honolulu, Hawaii Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: Froonp quote:
On my map there is no city in the Jaffa hex, just the minor port. Tel-Aviv definitelly should not appear on any WiF map There were 3 printings of the WiF FE maps. The 1996 printing, without Tel-Aviv The 2000 printing, with Tel-Aviv, printed for PatiF, but made standard for WiF FE games sold by ADG from then on. The 2004 printing, with Tel-Aviv, standard for WiF FE games sold by ADG from then on. (I have a precise list of which features appeared on every maps and could pass it to you if you want) Harry advised playing WiF FE with the new maps with the new cities (obviously not as capitals when there is another), with the new partisans number (which I believe CWiF also using), ignoring the new countries whose borders were drawn with a pink line instead of a red and a grey name (Pakistan, North / South Korea, East / West Germany, Israel...). quote:
(if it existed at all it was certainly smaller then Jaffa at the time). That I don't know, but I believe that city will be deletable for those who do not want it.
Harry was undoubtedly addressng the fact that WIF has one map for all the different add-ons. North and South Korea et al show that clearly. MWIF does not have that difficulty. It can add and delete cities and politcal boundaries at will. Case in point, I somehow removed almost all the 'subcountries' as such from the map back in August when I first extracted the raw data from CWIF and placed it into CSV files. I discovered that fact this past week and spent some time yesterday putting the Polish Corridor, Sudetenland, Rhineland and the like back into the CSV files. Now, those have no effect on game play in MWIF product 1 but I believe they are vital for Days of Decision III. I like to keep everything tidy anyway. But it got me thinking, should those area deliniations and labels appear when playing one of the 11 scenarios in the basic game of WIF? They add historical detail but in some eyes that might just be clutter. Something to think about, but not vital to gameplay one way or the other. The issue of which cities to include does affect game play. While the CSV files can be edited by the players and cities added or removed more or less as the player chooses (where's Berlin?), a standard/default should be established. Unless I miss my guess, whetever MWIF uses as the default will become the defacto standard. New players to the world of WIF are unlikely to edit the map files to make them match a WIF FE official version. My personal preference on this is to definitiely exclude anything that is post-August 1945 since that is the end of the standard global war scenario (the latest end date for any of the 11 scenarios in fact).
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