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Upgrading Diplomats - 1/21/2006 9:22:48 PM

1LTRambo

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I know that improving courts will allow the player to improve the levels of new diplomats. Is there a way to improve the levels of existing diplomats?

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/21/2006 10:36:45 PM

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I've never seen it.

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/24/2006 12:48:58 AM

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I've built two diplomats so far in a city with 6 and then 7 courts but cultural of 2. As I recall they are both something like 20. 20.60, suggesting to me the obvious connection that higher courts generate a high legal rating (like the world needs more lawyers

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Somebody wrote on this forum that they built some diplomats than came out 60.60.60; I'd like to know if that was anything more than random.

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/24/2006 2:10:17 AM

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Right, I under stand that . I want to know if you can increase "existing" diplomats.
For example, one of Spain's diplomats has a legal rating of 0. Can this be improved or is that diplomat stuck at being lousy?

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/24/2006 3:49:11 AM

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they are stuck at being lousy

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/24/2006 4:14:56 AM

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yes work, in have effect in treaty of surrender too

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 2:00:35 AM

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That stinks.

I will have to wait until I have a level 10 court in one of my provinces before I build any more.

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 3:15:41 AM

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In a recent game, I managed to build two 60/60/60 Swedish diplomats with a level 7 court.

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 4:00:35 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevan

In a recent game, I managed to build two 60/60/60 Swedish diplomats with a level 7 court.

Is 60/60/60 the highest rating for diplomats? Also, what was your culture level in that province that you produced the high level diplomats?

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 8:25:46 AM

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I'm pretty sure the maximum would be 70/70/70. I can't remember what the culture level was, but it's unlikely it was more than 1-2 higher (if any) than the starting 1792 culture level for the province (a Swedish home province, I don't have the game open to check, but the one with the highest courts)

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 2:57:35 PM

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According to the rulebook, you're supposed to get a maximum of 20 points per level of court in the building province, with no rating higher than 70. So the highest-rated (theoretical) new diplomatic build would have two 70's and one 60.

However, if Kevan built two 60/60/60 dips in a level 7 court, then it would appear the implementation of the rule is bugged.

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 4:42:44 PM

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I have built several diplomats and have recvieved the following ratings. 30/40/50, 60/20/30 and 20/20/60. Unfortunately I can't tell you under what conditions they were built as it was a while back. I do recall trying to build them in a province with at least a level 5 court.

If courts effect the legal rating, what developments effect the espionage and influence ratings?

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 6:33:30 PM

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The rule on how courts effect new diplomat stats is kinda unclear.

Is it 20 pts per Court level total stats, then randomly divided into the 3 catagories? Thats what malthussen theorizes, when he sez highest theoretical diplomat is 70 70 & 60:

10 Courts x 20 = max 200, hence 70 + 70 + 60 = 200

OR is the system more generous, being 20 pts max per court level PER CATAGORY, randomly generated...with 70 being the upper limit? If this is the case a level 7 court could indeed create a 60/60/60 diplomat. A level 7 court would in theory be capable of between 0 and 140 points per stat, so with reasonably good luck, yeah, getting a 60 result 3 times is possible; IN FACT if this is the case its a bit surprising there are no 70s (given that should be the result 50% of the time for each catagory).

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 9:46:03 PM

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Tallyrand is a 70 influence or legal, I foregt which.

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RE: Upgrading Diplomats - 1/30/2006 10:27:17 PM

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I just looked over the algorithm for the assignment of a newly created diplomat's stats. Each stat gets a +20 in addition to the random amount allocated to it.

I may change this for the next build...

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