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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/13/2006 3:12:04 PM   
saj42


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Your Inf Divs might be wrecked but what great experience levels they now have. As most of the damage was disabled squads you won't be getting too many replacements to cause the experience to be diluted.

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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/13/2006 4:39:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Noticed that the LCU's at Kwai were at 100% strength, disruption nonwithstanding. Did they have replacements toggled "on"? If so, how many LCU elements have been permanently lost?

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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/13/2006 7:05:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I find it quite strange that all divs are at 100% strenght. This means they didn´t lost a single gun, sqad or anything! How can that be?

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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/13/2006 7:16:52 PM   
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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/13/2006 11:09:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I may be able to free up ABDA ground forces and assault shipping sufficient for a 4 - 6 Divisional assault on Bombay or Karachi but it is not likely.

Andy


I'd be wary even in 1944 of a 4-6 divisional assault on Bombay or Karachi. You'd have to use all your forces for the attack and he only has to defend those two hexes to prevent your reinforcements from arriving. There would be a big chance your troops wouldn't succeed and then you'd lose the 4-6 divisions. Now, if you can invade Malaysia/Burma and cut India off from supply, then you could do it with a high probability of success.

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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/14/2006 12:26:15 AM   
Andy Mac

 

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My Divs suffered casualties in landing but have been taking on replacements as we go from the huge supply stockpile I landed. (33rd Div took a real beating as the last one to land in the teeth of un suppressed guns but ironically lost the fewest disabled squads as the post landing shock attack was at 3:1 not 0:1 like the rest)

Most of the Armour is at 90/90 so there is a tendency for armour to take heavier actual casualties but they reciover so dammed fast !!!!

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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/14/2006 10:57:24 AM   
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RE: Beer lands up in Jap hands !!!!!! - 2/14/2006 1:38:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I may be able to free up ABDA ground forces and assault shipping sufficient for a 4 - 6 Divisional assault on Bombay or Karachi but it is not likely.

Andy


I'd be wary even in 1944 of a 4-6 divisional assault on Bombay or Karachi. You'd have to use all your forces for the attack and he only has to defend those two hexes to prevent your reinforcements from arriving. There would be a big chance your troops wouldn't succeed and then you'd lose the 4-6 divisions. Now, if you can invade Malaysia/Burma and cut India off from supply, then you could do it with a high probability of success.


India doesn´t need supply from Burma. There are so many ressource and HI centers it produces far more supplies than it needs.

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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/14/2006 6:59:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

For the next 6 months its a case of grind accross the pacific and NG to get his atrtrention focused.

This happens in any event.

The decision point is do I go Marianas/PI or go for a deeper strike at that point.

I havent decided one way or the other yet but I am thinking about it.

Andy


Don't play the MacArthur card...bypass the big japanese prison camps and strike deeply and hard.

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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/17/2006 10:18:04 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		Congrats to PZB on 100k hits

Now on with the war

Maloep fell thank god only Entiwok remains in the Marshalls 3 RCT's will land in the first wave and I will bring in others as required.

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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/17/2006 10:20:06 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/18/2006 3:33:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Andy,

if you've got the time, could you possibly track the losses of you LCU's when you hit Enewitok, either by looking at the VP increase or by tracking the actual losses, which I guess is only really practical if you turn off replacements.

The aim is two-fold:

To understand the actual cost of a late-war atoll landing. #

To reinforce the arguement that land combat isn't deadly enough in general, ie losses are mainly in the disabled category. This eventually leads to a "winner takes it all" situation, where the weaker side is destroyed and the stronger side left effectively unscathed. This of course has important implications for the late-war Japanese strategy, as he can't hope to bleed the Allied player. No Iwo's in WitP...

How long do you think it'll be before the Kwai LCU's will be ready for offensive operations?

Thanks,

Tom

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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/18/2006 7:07:15 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		OK no probs Timtom.

I am going to try and hit entiwock with 2 Divs plus armour.

My Divs will need 3 months to recuperate. Although 33rd will be ready in about 1 month.

So by the time they are prepped they should be ready. Now to pick a target....

After Entiwok I will be splitting my amphib assets transferring most back to SW PAC/ SOPAC.

Time is a real factor here I feel behind the curve and need to accelerate but I have no idea how fast to move.

Andy

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/02/44

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Day Air attack on IND IV Corps, at 22,3

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 18

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 7
B5N Kate x 30
B6N Jill x 27
G4M1 Betty x 9
G4M2 Betty x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 71
Ki-21 Sally x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 94

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
32 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
31 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
7 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
27 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
27 x B5N Kate bombing at 10000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Eniwetok , at 76,74


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 45
PB4Y Liberator x 24
B-24D Liberator x 26


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 100

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
2 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 19th/A Division, at 82,81


Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 141
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
SB2C Helldiver x 111
TBM Avenger x 72
P-40N Warhawk x 16
P-47C Thunderbolt x 53


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x F4U-1 Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
11 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
35 x P-47C Thunderbolt bombing at 2000 feet
12 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
17 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
12 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
17 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
13 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
24 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
18 x P-47C Thunderbolt bombing at 2000 feet
5 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
4 x F4U-1 Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
6 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
11 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x F6F Hellcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 19th/A Division, at 82,81


Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 8


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Maloelap

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22992 troops, 139 guns, 123 vehicles

Defending force 3636 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 152 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1084 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported


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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/19/2006 12:09:00 AM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		For those of you concerned with the to quick recovery of units here is a little stat for you.

7th Inf Div on 24/12/43 had 46 AV and was 59/100 on 5/1/44 it had 159 AV and had recovered to 70/100. On average just under 1% recovery in full supply with HQ present per day in a non Malaria Base. Now Combat arms appear to recover far more quickly that support as indicated by the rise in AV of the unit c 10 AV points per day.

37th Inf Div on 24/12/43 had 91 AV and was 64/100 on 5/1/44 it had 165 AV and had recovered to 71/100. On average just under 0.5% recovery in full supply with HQ present per day in a non Malaria Base. Now Combat arms also appear to recover far more quickly that support as indicated by the rise in AV of the unit c 6 AV points per day.

Interesting

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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/19/2006 8:24:29 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		Believe it or not this is a quiet turn.

My 2 new Essex's are headingto join the fleet at Kwal.

1st Aphib TF has been diverted to Gili Gili to pick up 3rd NZ for the assault on Aitape.

I estimate a month before the NG Campaign heats up again.

Operation Sleep (Entiwok) is under way its not as organised as the invasion of Kwal because I have had loading problems but my fleet will rendevous 60 miles from Entiwok.

After the troops are ashore I will divert 4 CV TF's to NG for Operation Gold, 2 of the CV's will return to Pearl to provide Commerce cover and get sys damage down as will 2 of my BB's.

The BB's will be replaced by the Iowas due soon and the CV's by the 2 new Essex's that have just arrived.

Andy
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Day Air attack on IND IV Corps, at 22,3

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 13

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 33
D4Y Judy x 27
B5N Kate x 30
B6N Jill x 27
G4M1 Betty x 9
G4M2 Betty x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 72
Ki-21 Sally x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 167

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 233
D4Y Judy x 24
B5N Kate x 45
B6N Jill x 32
G4M1 Betty x 25
G4M2 Betty x 77
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 106
Ki-21 Sally x 26
Ki-48 Lily x 27

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 348

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Eniwetok , at 76,74


Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 18
B-25J Mitchell x 40
PB4Y Liberator x 20
B-24D Liberator x 34


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 77
B-25J Mitchell x 128
B-17E Fortress x 48
B-24D Liberator x 96


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
83 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 91

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 46
B-17E Fortress x 26
PB4Y Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 58

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Emirau Island , at 60,84


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 29
B-24J Liberator x 77


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 122

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 43,35

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 11

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wotje , at 82,79


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 7
TBF Avenger x 10
P-47D Thunderbolt x 23


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x TBF Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBF Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 35,54

Japanese Ships
TK Kyuei Maru
TK Yamazuru Maru
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 2
PC Tama Maru #8
PG Santos Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kiso Maru
PG Kanko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Hinode Maru #17
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
SS Robalo

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ASW attack at 35,54

Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Fumi Maru #3
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Keiko Maru
PG Chosa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Robalo

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Sub attack at 35,54

Japanese Ships
TK San Ramon Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 2
PC Tama Maru #8
PG Santos Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kiso Maru
PG Kanko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Hinode Maru #17
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
SS Robalo, hits 1, on fire

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RE: Operation Goblin is GOGOGO !!!! - 2/19/2006 8:27:03 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		I raided Wake today just for the hell of it I have no intention of attacking it but it may make PZB divert resouce.

Fleet sailed today for Entiwock after I take this island this campaign is over for 3 months and the focus switches back to SOPAC and SWPAC.

Plus I am considering a deep strike on Bali just to annoy PZB

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/06/44

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 175
D4Y Judy x 24
B5N Kate x 18
B6N Jill x 16
G4M1 Betty x 25
G4M2 Betty x 60
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 3
Ki-48 Lily x 10

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported

Airbase hits 11
Runway hits 208

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 69
B-25J Mitchell x 137
B-17E Fortress x 41
B-24D Liberator x 91


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 22
Runway hits 250

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 46
B-17E Fortress x 26
PB4Y Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 2 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 94

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed
H8K Emily: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 43,35

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 13

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B5N Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wotje , at 82,79


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
TBM Avenger x 6


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet

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DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/19/2006 11:51:15 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		I am not happy I just had 5 subs hit in one day by air ASW how am I supoposed to launch anything like an Sub offensive aganst that

I may have to withdraw all subs again this stinks !!!

My air isnt launching against Entiwok

ANdy
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/08/44

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Naval bombardment of Eniwetok, at 76,74

Allied Ships
DD Braine
DD Bradford
DD Boyd
DD Bennett
DD Beale
DD Bache
DD Charles Ausburne
DD Anthony
DD Ammen
BB Alabama
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
775 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 53
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 3

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Sub attack at 36,55

Japanese Ships
PG Shinko Maru #3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Fumi Maru #3
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Keiko Maru
PG Chosa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Balao

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 177
D4Y Judy x 24
B6N Jill x 16
G4M2 Betty x 53
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 220

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
24 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
20 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
26 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
72 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
24 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
14 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
1 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Aru Island , at 39,80

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-46-III Dinah x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged


Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 43
B-24J Liberator x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Eniwetok , at 76,74


Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 34
B-25J Mitchell x 43
PB4Y Liberator x 24
B-24D Liberator x 37


Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Port hits 8
Port supply hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
14 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
2 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 56
B-25J Mitchell x 117
B-24J Liberator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
25 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
23 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 38
B-17E Fortress x 18
PB4Y Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 36


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Admiralty Islands , at 58,84


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 29
B-24J Liberator x 73


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 7
Port supply hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
23 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
27 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
14 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Aru Island , at 39,80

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46-III Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Wotje , at 82,79


Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 4


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 3 damaged

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
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Sub attack at 36,55

Japanese Ships
TK Akebono Maru
TK Sanraku Maru
TK Hoyo Maru
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 2
PC Tama Maru #8
PG Santos Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kiso Maru
PG Kanko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Hinode Maru #17
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
SS Balao

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ASW attack at 36,55

Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Fumi Maru #3
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Keiko Maru
PG Chosa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Balao

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 12:57:10 AM   
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Re air asw if it was me I would sort out an agreed set of houserules with my opponent to stop players exploiting known game bugs or issues. The patch you are using (v1.50 I believe) has well known problems with aircraft attacks vs subs - matrix admitted as much by changing the code in a later beta patch. By keeping the older patch but exploiting the known bugs the chances of player bickering seem very high to me.

I also notice your opponent uses very large numbers (10 or more) of escorts for his shipping - again exploiting the known problems with overdone ship asw in v1.50. I hesitate to openly criticise what some may consider 'gamey play' but I do know that such things can become very frustrating in a closely matched game such as yours.

In my own pbm game we use v1.50 as well and have mutually agreed a few houserules to make things more sensible ( non patrol or floatplane air groups can only set search up to 20% max, max escorts(of any ship type with depth charges) of 8 for any taskforce and so forth). It all makes for a better game in my view and cuts down on the chances of player moans at ahistorical results.

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 12:08:58 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		I raised this before and with all the other innacuracies in the game PZB is unwilling to agree houserules on this area. I respect his position on this one but I dont like it.

I will persevere with my Sub campagn until losses become to severe

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 6:53:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

I raised this before and with all the other innacuracies in the game PZB is unwilling to agree houserules on this area. I respect his position on this one but I dont like it.

I will persevere with my Sub campagn until losses become to severe



Thats a real shame. Though it is something you can exploit too.




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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 7:25:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't like it much either, that is why I had my subs either in port or on patrol in the north pacific. every time I tried to send them to interdict his shipping they got smothered with 100+ aircraft in every hex. He would not back off so I just went with it, basically fighting the war without subs.

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 7:46:43 PM   
rroberson

 

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ORIGINAL: Nomad

I didn't like it much either, that is why I had my subs either in port or on patrol in the north pacific. every time I tried to send them to interdict his shipping they got smothered with 100+ aircraft in every hex. He would not back off so I just went with it, basically fighting the war without subs.



Use them as mine layers. In one of my games with "open" rules (asw deathstars) I have taken to using my submarines to mine all of my opp's harbors. It works like a charm. Not only does he have to spend alot of MSW sweeping, my subs are never in the same place more then one turn. I can get in...drop a mine and out before is ASW forces can respond. If my subs cross a transport or warship on their way in and out...they attack it with torpedos...if not...they return home to pick up more mines and its wash, rinse, repeat.

It is the most effective way to employ American submarines...and my sub losses went way down due to using them this way. Plus it keeps his MSW units very busy so they can't be used as ASW platforms.

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 8:01:36 PM   
Ron Saueracker


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ORIGINAL: rroberson


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nomad

I didn't like it much either, that is why I had my subs either in port or on patrol in the north pacific. every time I tried to send them to interdict his shipping they got smothered with 100+ aircraft in every hex. He would not back off so I just went with it, basically fighting the war without subs.



Use them as mine layers. In one of my games with "open" rules (asw deathstars) I have taken to using my submarines to mine all of my opp's harbors. It works like a charm. Not only does he have to spend alot of MSW sweeping, my subs are never in the same place more then one turn. I can get in...drop a mine and out before is ASW forces can respond. If my subs cross a transport or warship on their way in and out...they attack it with torpedos...if not...they return home to pick up more mines and its wash, rinse, repeat.

It is the most effective way to employ American submarines...and my sub losses went way down due to using them this way. Plus it keeps his MSW units very busy so they can't be used as ASW platforms.


Well, I'm pretty sure they are going to address the sub visibility issue, I just hope they go far enough. Nothing worse than seeing players have to radically alter the way assets were historically used because the model is so far off it is possible to use them totally ahistorically or not at all.


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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 8:11:48 PM   
Nomad


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ORIGINAL: rroberson


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nomad

I didn't like it much either, that is why I had my subs either in port or on patrol in the north pacific. every time I tried to send them to interdict his shipping they got smothered with 100+ aircraft in every hex. He would not back off so I just went with it, basically fighting the war without subs.



Use them as mine layers. In one of my games with "open" rules (asw deathstars) I have taken to using my submarines to mine all of my opp's harbors. It works like a charm. Not only does he have to spend alot of MSW sweeping, my subs are never in the same place more then one turn. I can get in...drop a mine and out before is ASW forces can respond. If my subs cross a transport or warship on their way in and out...they attack it with torpedos...if not...they return home to pick up more mines and its wash, rinse, repeat.

It is the most effective way to employ American submarines...and my sub losses went way down due to using them this way. Plus it keeps his MSW units very busy so they can't be used as ASW platforms.


I tried that, they got hit trying to get to a harbor. Get within 6 hexes of any level 4 airfield and they go blub - blub. He has about 1200+ LB on ASW patrol.



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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/20/2006 9:54:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well you cant blame him for not agreeing this houserule, because he already lost most of its submarine fleet because of wrong ASW model in this game.

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/21/2006 9:19:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course can one blame him. It is only the question whether it is fair.

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/21/2006 12:33:59 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		I dont blame him but it is annoying !!!!

I will win out but I may need to send the allied deathstar in to annihalate these ASW bombers

As his pilot quality starts to fall this will become less of an issue

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/21/2006 2:14:22 PM   
Hipper

 

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if the japanese did use 1200+ planes as asw assets in the DEI / Japan area submarine operations would have been a bit dicy.

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/21/2006 3:18:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		can't blame Pzb he concentrated so big ASW assets in region - you need to try hit him outside of base areas even if it is difficult
if player ties assets and burn lots of supply why shouldn't he have results ?

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RE: DAMMED AIR ASW - 2/23/2006 7:51:41 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		Hmmm not sure if I agree. 1200 aircraft is a lot but its an AF without the technical expertise of Coastal Command operating in deep water (none of my subs are in shallow) hitting 5 or 6 subs a day is extreme.

However cest la vie we move on Operation Sleep goes in tonight I will monitor the condition of the units after they land.

This op is not as well planned as Kwal so I am not expecting great results.

For all you amphib commanders out there my number 1 tip is ARMOUR ARMOUR ARMOUR it is tanks that win battles on atolls (so far).

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