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House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 9:19:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Those Allied LRB bombings are very annoying in the early stage of war...I didn't hear of such use by the Allies in the early war...are they historical?
Is there any house rule for these bombings?
I, as Japanese, am very depressed as no Jap fighter can stop them, a single air attack erases the airfiled and takes a high toll of planes
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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 9:25:28 AM   
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Those Allied LRB bombings are very annoying in the early stage of war...I didn't hear of such use by the Allies in the early war...are they historical?
Is there any house rule for these bombings?
I, as Japanese, am very depressed as no Jap fighter can stop them, a single air attack erases the airfiled and takes a high toll of planes


Use NIK mod 5.0, flak has been increased and LBA capacity decreased.. Yesterday my PBEM opponent send 80 B-17 over rabaul at 25K. Flak killed 5 and damaged 40, scored 10 runway hits, and 3 planes on the ground....

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 9:58:01 AM   
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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 10:48:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		where can I find NIK mods?....can I apply this mod to my current game?

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 11:10:51 AM   
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where can I find NIK mods?....can I apply this mod to my current game?


Go to spooky's site

http://mathubert.free.fr/

and look for (CTRL + F) NIK mod 5.02

This is a SCENARIO, not a mod, so you need to restart your game...

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 11:45:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

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Those Allied LRB bombings are very annoying in the early stage of war...I didn't hear of such use by the Allies in the early war...are they historical?
Is there any house rule for these bombings?
I, as Japanese, am very depressed as no Jap fighter can stop them, a single air attack erases the airfiled and takes a high toll of planes


Use NIK mod 5.0, flak has been increased and LBA capacity decreased.. Yesterday my PBEM opponent send 80 B-17 over rabaul at 25K. Flak killed 5 and damaged 40, scored 10 runway hits, and 3 planes on the ground....


I´m playin Nik´s mod too, but this result seems too high to me.

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 11:49:03 AM   
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´m playin Nik´s mod too, but this result seems too high to me.


Not with 8 FLAK units there

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 11:53:43 AM   
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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 12:19:41 PM   
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´m playin Nik´s mod too, but this result seems too high to me.


Not with 8 FLAK units there



okay, that explains it. I have to say I wouldn´t put 8 units in one base though and expect my opponents to do the same.

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 12:50:36 PM   
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okay, that explains it. I have to say I wouldn´t put 8 units in one base though and expect my opponents to do the same.


Allies serverly lack AA units.....

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 1:53:51 PM   
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Allies serverly lack AA units.....


Oh? And why praytell?

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 2:46:55 PM   
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Allies serverly lack AA units.....


Oh? And why praytell?


Uh-oh.

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 3:03:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		So the AA morph is a result of Japanese players not being happy with the real life inability to deal with 4E bombers and the lack of any restrictions on stacking and 4E availability? Why not just ship with FedEx?

I am experiencing no massive 4e swarms or a flak gap (unless like in real life AA weapons have minimum and maximum ceilings) in CHS so simply reducing the availability of aircraft to nearer their historical numbers alleviates the base crushing air attacks the game so short sightedly allows now and removes any need to correct one wrong with another potential wrong, turning flak into Nike-Zeus missile sites.

Oh, and odn't use PDUs, or use it with some sense of control.

< Message edited by Ron Saueracker -- 2/27/2006 3:08:51 PM >

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 4:29:38 PM   
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´m playin Nik´s mod too, but this result seems too high to me.


Not with 8 FLAK units there


that would do it. Japan has only so many heavy AA however, so the con of building up the flak that strongly in one spot is that other areas will be more vulnerable. Try probing attacks on other bases or stage a night attack.




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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 10:47:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry to dissapoint you mate but non of my B-17's were destroyed only some 30 damaged... well night attack this sounds nice hehe

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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 10:50:52 PM   
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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 10:52:48 PM   
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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 11:04:01 PM   
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Those Allied LRB bombings are very annoying in the early stage of war...I didn't hear of such use by the Allies in the early war...are they historical?
Is there any house rule for these bombings?
I, as Japanese, am very depressed as no Jap fighter can stop them, a single air attack erases the airfiled and takes a high toll of planes


In the game the Japanese are blessed with torpedo bombers which routinely perform far, far better than historical records can support. Part of the reason is that the game allows the Japanese to have torpedo maintenance deports at any level 4 airbase and a supply of aerial torpedos only just barely exceeded by the number of 7.7 mm rounds in their inventory (torpedo attacks were actually pretty rare seemingly only occurring in the vicinity of major bases).
But sadly the other part is an overestimation of the effectiveness of IJN torpedo bombers. The G3s/G4s had a very few good days in 1941-42 sinking PoW/Repulse and DD Jarvis and ________ (in these threads folks have been having an extremely difficult time seemingly to fill in this blank). The number of torpedo hits scored by Kates in 1941-42 (excluding the PH attack) is under a dozen (which many IJN Players routinely score in 1 battle by the KB).

IMHO don't get depressed. Use your overpowered G3s/G4s to GET EVEN for the overpowering numbers of 4E bombers for as long as possible (the numbers are a bit much but the general ineffectiveness of Japan's weapons on them isn't that far off).


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RE: House rules for LRB bombing - 2/27/2006 11:24:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		B-17's are very hard to bring down in the mod. So much so that getting even 1 is usually cause for gloating in an AAR. Ask Speedy.

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