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Zone of Control/Movement - 4/13/2006 8:47:04 PM

shall59

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I know I read something a while back about zones of control and movement but now I can't find it. Could somebody tell me where to look and/or give me some help with the following.

I just kicked the Japs out of Tainan and they all retreated SE and then NE into Taichu except for one unit, it stayed in the hex SE of Tainan. I want to go fight this unit but I'm not able to give any of my units a movement destination into this hex. I try giving Taichu as a destination and all my units head into the mountains NE of Tainan and get stuck there.

What to do?

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/13/2006 9:13:21 PM

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I don't have the map in front of me, but a couple of things to keep in mind.

1. You can't move from a contested ZOC to another enemy ZOC.
2. You can use the w key to see ZOC on the map
3. To move from a contested ZOC to another hex, you must set the destination on a friendly controlled base. In doing so, you can't violate rule #1.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/13/2006 11:00:07 PM

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4. You can't actually control the route your units will take to get to any given destination.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 12:13:42 AM

shall59

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But why can't I move any troops into the non-base hex to attack that single unit?

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 1:01:31 AM

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Because the program thinks you are doing too well and doesn't want you beating up on those poor Japanese citizens, you bully!

Oh, all right, if you insist on a serious answer can you give us a screen shot of the island with ZOC display turned on? (The "W" key.) And a screen shot of the unit you are trying to order into that hex?

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 1:41:44 AM

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Welcome to the wacky programing of WITP!

Set one of the Japanese occupied bases as your destination.
Then stop your LCU's when they get into the non-base hex.
Stupid isn't it? That's how it works though.

I rarely use the non-base movement.
An enemy bombardment will cancel out their movement orders, but having a base as a destination won't. Go figure.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 3:11:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: shall59

But why can't I move any troops into the non-base hex to attack that single unit?

Just a possibility... There could be a Japanese GHOST unit left behind in your base. It hapened to me recently.

Check if attack orders are active in your LCUs info screen.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 7:17:58 AM

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Okay, figured it out and now have units moving out of Tainan to the East towards that single unit in a non-base hex. Don't know if this is how it is supposed to work but it is working.

If I give marching orders to hex 49,44 to any unit in Tainan it won't march; but in doing so it automatically sets a HQ unit there to march to that hex. Still can't set the units themselves to march though. I can then go to the info screen for the HQ unit and set all to follow, now everyone merrily marches off to the destination hex. All I have to do is set units I don't want to march to defensive stance.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 9:50:10 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: shall59

Okay, figured it out and now have units moving out of Tainan to the East towards that single unit in a non-base hex. Don't know if this is how it is supposed to work but it is working.

If I give marching orders to hex 49,44 to any unit in Tainan it won't march; but in doing so it automatically sets a HQ unit there to march to that hex. Still can't set the units themselves to march though. I can then go to the info screen for the HQ unit and set all to follow, now everyone merrily marches off to the destination hex. All I have to do is set units I don't want to march to defensive stance.

Ah! Yes, this bug. Okay, the way around this is actually fairly simple. When you click on the base or the hex the units are in, click on the unit icons at the bottom of the screen. Whatever orders you give in the LCU window are implemented by the unit that is highlited at the screen bottom. The bug is that this is not always the same unit as you are viewing in the central window. That "marker" doesn't always get properly updated and stays on the first unit, which is usually a HQ. So you want to always make sure that the name of the unit you are viewing is the LCU name being displayed at the bottom left of the monitor.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 2:00:40 PM

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4. You can't actually control the route your units will take to get to any given destination.

UNLESS you designate the route ONE HEX at a time - that is one hex per day max.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/14/2006 8:52:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: el cid again

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4. You can't actually control the route your units will take to get to any given destination.

UNLESS you designate the route ONE HEX at a time - that is one hex per day max.

And even then you cannot make the unit go directly from its current hex to the target hex. As the original poster had happen to him, the units will sometimes do a dogleg and take two hexes of movement to go to the adjacent hex.

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RE: Zone of Control/Movement - 4/15/2006 12:07:35 AM

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Yep, and usually right into a jungle hex.

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