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PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 4:52:48 AM   
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Attached are some preliminary screen shots of the revamped PDS.

NOTE: These are of a work in progress. Artwork and functionality are not final.

Many of you may have read about my work to revamp the Play Development System for the 3rd update. Below are some screen captures to show what direction this is taking.

Obviously the most notable difference is that PDS2.0 (the working title that will probably stick unless I think of something better) is fully 3D. It's no longer a separate application that you must be outside the game to access.

The advantages are numerous but the most obvious ones are;

- Instant access to practice mode. Moving to and from the practice field happens instantly, rather than the lengthy delay previously.

- You now have 100% of the field to work with. You're no longer limited to a small 25 (or so) yard chunk.

- WYSIWYG. With PDS1.0, there was a bit of a disconnect between the play design and what it looked like on the field. This would result in constant switching back and forth between the 2D and 3D world trying to get spacing correct.

- Not seen in the screen shots, there is the ability to move the ball to a different spot on the field so that you can more effectively create red zone (aka green zone, aka go zone) plays.

- The basic functionality is copied verbatim from the 2D version. The menu buttons work the same way as previously, and you still create plays by pointing and clicking command points around the field.

- The interface artwork is development artwork. It's useful for development and testing, but I'm not happy with the overall look of the interface and will be changing that as soon as I can. Right now it works though.

- You will also note some extra controls in the top right corner. Those are camera controls. You can scroll the camera around the full field as well as zoom in close or out as far as the field width.

The one disadvantage that will unlikely be dealt with before release is the lower quality of the play thumbnail generated for the play selection process. One of the reasons for the smaller amount of working field on the previous PDS was to assist the thumbnail generation. Player positions are scaled so they are in the same relative location on the thumbnail as the field. With the larger field now being scaled, the thumbnail drops in quality. The only work around would be to not have the thumbnail be fully representative of the play design. Meaning players further away from the center would be relocated on the play thumbnail for the sake of aesthetics.

So far all existing plays are 100% compatible with the new version. You do not have to make any changes. Plays created with PDS1.0 load as expected in the new verison. So there is no reason for people to stop making plays




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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 4:53:16 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 4:53:43 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 4:54:15 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 4:54:49 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 4:55:18 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 5:33:40 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 5:43:49 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 2:11:20 PM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 3:28:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		David, can you make it so we can change the offensive position of a player? For instance now there is no way to have 2 TEs in a formation.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 6:41:01 PM   
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David, can you make it so we can change the offensive position of a player? For instance now there is no way to have 2 TEs in a formation.



The new PSD allows for 2 TE's in a formation. The second to last screen shot shows this.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 6:54:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		David, Can the new PSD allow three backs in the backfield to accomodate formations such as the Wishbone and the T formations?

Thanks for all this work. I can't wait to get my hands on this.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 7:18:52 PM   
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David, Can the new PSD allow three backs in the backfield to accomodate formations such as the Wishbone and the T formations?

Thanks for all this work. I can't wait to get my hands on this.



This is required. Especially in the lower level leagues, like HS, college etc.......


Also, is it me or are those hashmarks WAY too close together?

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 7:23:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also, I have noticed, when DB's or LB's drop into pass covereage, if its a deep drop, they actually turn their back to the LoS, and then run to their zone. They SHOULD backpedal there...... however there is no command to backpedal in the PDS............. just a "move to" command.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 8:18:22 PM   
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Also, is it me or are those hashmarks WAY too close together?



The hasmarks are 23 yards from the sidelines. If you use the amature level US field, I have them set at 20 yards from the sidelines.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 8:27:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Haven't played with the PDS much yet, but, one thing I notice is that I can not adjust the players position on the field. It seems you select a formation and other then motion, there is no way to get the players where you want, is this being addressed or am I just missing something?

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 8:31:20 PM   
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Haven't played with the PDS much yet, but, one thing I notice is that I can not adjust the players position on the field. It seems you select a formation and other then motion, there is no way to get the players where you want, is this being addressed or am I just missing something?



Initial player positions (on offense) are set by the formation. When you design a formation you can put the skill players anywhere you like. When you create a play from that formation, the players are set in the formation. You can use motion to move them around to other locations.


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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/6/2006 10:52:02 PM   
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David, can you make it so we can change the offensive position of a player? For instance now there is no way to have 2 TEs in a formation.



The new PSD allows for 2 TE's in a formation. The second to last screen shot shows this.


Thanks, obviously I'm blind, but still enjoy your game despite my trouble seeing


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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/7/2006 5:18:18 AM   
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I'm looking forward to it.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/8/2006 4:03:41 AM   
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I'm not one to make plays or mess with a PDS, and yet I appreciate the effort being made in improving this aspect of the game. Even though I don't design plays and playbooks, I'm sure I'll benefit greatly from the playbooks that the community creates. Thanks David, Matrix and all those that support MAXFB.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/8/2006 7:07:44 AM   
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Will the OL be able to expand their splits?

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/8/2006 8:31:24 AM   
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David,
Will the OL be able to expand their splits?



I was going to ask that as well. I would hope that in addition to controlling line splits, we will be able to create unbalanced formations ( TE G C G T T).

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/14/2006 8:15:48 AM   
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Can the new PSD allow three backs in the backfield to accomodate formations such as the Wishbone and the T formations?


Two tight ends and three running back formations have long been on the list of requests from the beta team. We will be testing both for inclusion in the PDS 2.0.

This may take some time, as David has much to do to post the logic commands over and then have the beta team test it. As one can see, it is coming along fairly well.

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Also, I have noticed, when DB's or LB's drop into pass covereage, if its a deep drop, they actually turn their back to the LoS, and then run to their zone. They SHOULD backpedal there...... however there is no command to backpedal in the PDS............. just a "move to" command.


I have mentioned this on the beta boards, as maybe the Drop Back command or something similar could work with defensive players. Having zone coverage logic by linemen would be nice for zone-blitz schemes, and the ability to drop back would help there as well.



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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/17/2006 4:08:42 AM   
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3 RB's and 2 TE's is something PDS2.0 supports. Although the new PDS is still in a pre-alpha state (meaning it's not yet feature complete) the testers are checking it out from a pretty high level.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/17/2006 4:30:35 AM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/17/2006 7:32:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		The option play really has little to do with the play designer. At one point, it was actually in the original but was turned off for release because it's an AI buster.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/17/2006 7:59:09 PM   
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The option play really has little to do with the play designer. At one point, it was actually in the original but was turned off for release because it's an AI buster.


I thought I remembered you saying that. Would you consider putting it back in anyways??

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/17/2006 9:56:40 PM   
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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/17/2006 10:15:34 PM   
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How about the appearance of the optionFor us college guys



I guess you could get the appearance of an option by having three plays just alike with names almost the same except have the QB turn up field and run in one, pitch to the trailing back in the second and throw in the third. Have the profile select one of those three plays in a particular instance. If you are watching and allowing the CPU (QB) call the plays the watcher would not know which play was being run and this would give the appearance of an option. Of course if you have a stupid QB who cannot be trusted to call his own plays and the coach (you) are calling them for him, this would not work.

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RE: PDS2.0 Work In Progress Screen shots - 5/18/2006 4:08:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, that is exactly what I was planning to do too add an "Option Play" system to my playbook. Its not really a true Option, but its the best you can do right now.

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