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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/27/2006 11:58:59 PM   
Mynok


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Noemfoor and Biak have been 'stocked' with supplies and troops. Barges will now deliver both to
Sarmi. Same with Woleai: moved a heavy artillery brigade there as well and a tank regiment is also
on the move. Minelayers from Ulithi will also make the place most unpleasent for Andy.


What are you using as a barge base here? Sorong? Amboina?

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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 1:48:25 AM   
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Sarmi has been assigned this dubious honor Mynok!

Without our search planes noticing anything an enemy invasion force has
crept towards Sarmi. 2 carrier TFs, a surface group and troop ships are now in the are of Sarmi.

This took me by surprise and a light cruiser was sunk while 2 destroyers were damaged. A strike from
Noemfoor failed to penetrate the CAP.

Countermeasures have been ordred (see operations map).
Some 200 transports will attempt to move reinforcements to Sarmi including 2 Para regiments,1 SNLF unit and an AA unit.
There are some 350 mines in place and forts are 4(+99%) Most annoying, Dagua also stopped at 99%. Forts should be reduced by
% and not levels. E.g assault lowers forts from 499 to 432.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/25/44

Surface Combat

Dam(n)ations - these barges carried troops - and ALL were
sunk by the 3 musketeers

Day Time Surface Combat, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese Ships
AG AG-108, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-117, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-351, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-353, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-356, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-357, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-359, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
AG AG-360, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-363, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-365, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-366, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-367, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-373, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-5031, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-5050, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Stack
DD Perkins
DD Hatfield

Japanese ground losses:
460 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Heavy strikes hit troops at Sarmi!

Day Air attack on 28th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 48,78

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 20
SB2C Helldiver x 48
TBM Avenger x 94

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
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Day Air attack on 28th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 48,78

Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 7
B-24J Liberator x 21

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
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An unfortunate TF was surprised and the light cruiser Yubari sunk! 2 destroyer are
heavily damaged. They tried to intercept the destroyers that attacked my barges later
on in the day.

Day Air attack on TF, near Sarmi at 48,78

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 19
SB2C Helldiver x 57
TBM Avenger x 16

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 7 damaged
TBM Avenger: 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Fujinami
CL Yubari, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
DD Akigumo, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kazegumo
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Day Air attack on TF, near Biak at 46,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
A6M5 Zeke x 22

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 8
F6F Hellcat x 9
Corsair IV x 4
TBM Avenger x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
DD Suzukaze
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An anti shipping squadron at Noemfoor was not intended for anti carrier strikes. It got
cut to pieces by the enemy Uber CAP!

Day Air attack on TF at 50,78

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
G4M2 Betty x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 22
Ki-21 Sally x 18

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 56
F6F Hellcat x 68
Corsair IV x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 20 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 16 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 damaged
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Enemy approaches Sarmi

Again we have to rely on coordination, good weather, subterfuge - and a bit of luck - to
strike back at the enemy.

Here is what I've come up with:

The heavy cruiser Aoba and 4 destroyers will move towards Biak together with a smaller TF of 3 destroyers.
Perhaps we can disrupt the enemy and pave the way for our naval bombers!?

Noemfoor holds 110 fighters - Oscars and Zekes - as well as 40 Betty bombers. At Biak there are 50 Zeros/Zekes
and 13 Jills. All these fighters are put on escort. 34 crack Tojos have been moved in and put on 90% CAP.

On Palau 180 Oscar IIs with a range of 10 hexes have been put on escort missions for 120 crack Betty bombers - all
given a max range of 10 hexes). This should intercept any fleets just north of Sarmi.

At Woleai some 100 fighters and torpedo bombers have been put on naval attack missions in case the enemy comes within range.

To lure the enemy closer to our bases (and disrupt enemy plans for LRCAP and mutual/convoy protection) 3 cve's with a single
destroyer escort have sortied from Ulithi. They all carry Zeke groups on 90% CAP. One cve will move 3 hexes SSE of Ulithi. It has
been provided with LRCAP by 200 Zekes. The next cve will move 3 hexes further south by west while the last one moves a further hex
to a position just 6 hexes NE of Sarmi.

I am willing to deploy the surface fleet for hit and run mission from Morotai - the enemy carriers will be forced to stay in place
and it should be possible to spring 5-6 hexes into Biak and then home again. We got huge stocks of trained LBA and I'm only committing
a small part of this reserve, so the potential for another disaster shold be slim.

I admit that this plan relies on many factors but this is the best I can do for now. If Andy didn't commit all of his carriers
(which I don't think he has) it should be possible to hurt him. Let's see what Lady Fortune can do for us...I think it's about
time that someone gave Andy a sound trashing





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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 2:47:16 AM   
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I'm confused...I got a turn back from Andy and all my orders have been cancelled but the date
has progressed by one day. Can anyone explain to me how this is possible!? The same ships that were sunk
by destroyers and enemy carrier ac yesterday were destroyed again by an enemy battle fleet at Sarmi!
Even the barge numbers and the number of casualties are the same

This has happened once before and I couldn't make any sense of that time either. The time difference between the combat replay and the actual turn I sent Andy is 44 minutes! So no way I ended my turn prematurely. Is there a bug that can cause anything like this?

I've sent the turns for Ken and asked him to check it all out cause I'm tired of these anomalies!
Suggestions appreciated!

Here is the unedited combat txt:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/25/44

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 54
N1K1-J George x 47
D4Y Judy x 36
A6M5c Zeke x 48
B6N Jill x 27
G4M2 Betty x 77
P1Y Frances x 51
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 226

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
18 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
18 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
48 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
43 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
24 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
5 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
4 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M5 Zeke x 132
D4Y Judy x 44
B6N Jill x 8
G4M2 Betty x 52
P1Y Frances x 63
Ki-21 Sally x 25

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 142

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
18 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
24 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
10 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
35 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
23 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
48 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
18 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
8 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
42 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
18 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
6 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
4 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
2 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 48
B-24J Liberator x 120


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported

Port hits 4
Port supply hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78


Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 28th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 48,78


Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 9
SB2C Helldiver x 48
TBM Avenger x 94


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
24 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
14 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
24 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
8 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 28th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 48,78


Allied aircraft
PB4Y Liberator x 7
B-24J Liberator x 19


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Sarmi at 48,78


Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 16
F6F Hellcat x 22
Corsair IV x 4
TBM Avenger x 14


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Akigumo

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,78

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 4
G4M2 Betty x 17
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 27

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 56
F6F Hellcat x 68
Corsair IV x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 17 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 23 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 18 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged
F6F Hellcat: 4 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 50,78

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 4

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 56
F6F Hellcat x 68
Corsair IV x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed


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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 11


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 9


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Sarmi , at 48,78


Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on TF at 51,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 6
P-38J Lightning x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed


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Day Air attack on TF at 50,78

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 54
F6F Hellcat x 33
Corsair IV x 10
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 13
DD Hatsukaze
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
DD Hibiki, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey
CL Boise
CA Louisville
CA Astoria
CA Chester
CL Montpelier
CL Santa Fe
CL Birmingham
CA Chicago
DD Dyson
DD Eaton
DD Foote
DD Franks
DD Gatling
DMS Palmer
DMS Howard
DMS Chandler
DMS Elliot

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese Ships
AG AG-117, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-351, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-353, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-356, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-357, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-359, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-360, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-363, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-365, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-366, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-367, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-373, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-5050, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey
CL Boise
CA Louisville
CA Astoria
CA Chester
CL Montpelier
CL Santa Fe
CL Birmingham
CA Chicago
DD Dyson
DD Eaton
DD Foote
DD Franks
DD Gatling
DMS Palmer
DMS Howard
DMS Chandler
DMS Elliot

Japanese ground losses:
551 casualties reported

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Shell hits 3
DD Akigumo
DD Kazegumo
DD Fujinami
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey
CL Boise
CA Louisville
CA Astoria
CA Chester
CL Montpelier
CL Santa Fe
CL Birmingham
CA Chicago
DD Dyson
DD Eaton
DD Foote
DD Franks
DD Gatling
DMS Palmer
DMS Howard
DMS Chandler
DMS Elliot

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Shell hits 14, on fire
DD Akigumo
DD Kazegumo
DD Fujinami
DD Nenohi, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey
CL Boise
CA Louisville
CA Astoria
CA Chester
CL Montpelier
CL Santa Fe
CL Birmingham
CA Chicago
DD Dyson
DD Eaton
DD Foote
DD Franks
DD Gatling
DMS Palmer
DMS Howard
DMS Chandler
DMS Elliot

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
DD Hatsukaze
DD Hibiki, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
BB Iowa, Shell hits 1
BB New Jersey
CL Boise
CA Louisville
CA Astoria
CA Chester, Shell hits 1
CL Montpelier
CL Santa Fe
CL Birmingham
CA Chicago
DD Dyson
DD Eaton
DD Foote
DD Franks
DD Gatling
DMS Palmer
DMS Howard
DMS Chandler
DMS Elliot

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sarmi at 48,78

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
DD Hatsukaze
DD Hibiki, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey
CL Boise
CA Louisville
CA Astoria
CA Chester
CL Montpelier
CL Santa Fe
CL Birmingham
CA Chicago
DD Dyson
DD Eaton
DD Foote
DD Franks
DD Gatling
DMS Palmer
DMS Howard
DMS Chandler
DMS Elliot

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Naval bombardment of Sarmi, at 48,78

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CL Birmingham
CL Santa Fe
CL Montpelier
CA Chester
CA Astoria
CA Louisville
CL Boise
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 43
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 6


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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 4:22:59 AM   
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YIKES! Are you guys gonna try to run that one over to see if it repeats?

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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 5:05:25 AM   
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Well, if you do take a closer look you will see that the last two combat reports have
the same dates: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/25/44 & AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/25/44.

This means that the game hasn't progressed as I first thought. The 02/24/44 turn has therefore
been resolved twice: first with and then without my orders!



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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 5:16:37 AM   
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So you guys are gonna do what? Are you sure that you didn't send the same turn twice?

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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 5:48:56 AM   
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I've had this happen once. Much confusion as I sent the turn back to my opponent thinking he hadn't had his turn and we ended up going in circles for a bit!!

This happened in Jan 42, so it isn't just a late war bug

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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 12:50:26 PM   
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Redd, I've checked it and I only sent the 02/24/44 turn to Andy once. In return I got the first
combat replay for the 02/25/44 turn which is posted on the top of this page. I then sent the 02/25/44 turn back
and received a new version of the 02/24/44 turn - this time without my orders being issued This is 'the bogus'
AAR which is posted on the bottom of this page.

Just can't understand how the US battle fleet can be present in one turn while only US destroyers were present in the
first one. Ships are being sunk, refloated and sunk again all over the place here.

Bbbfm - I've sent Andy a mail and explained the issue! Trying to figure out what happened. Would like to
understand how this could happend before moving on.


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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 12:51:53 PM   
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hm, your plan sounds good.

Andy problably don't expect that you will use CVs just after disaster...but, you need a luck on your side...

If i'm right, you count that Andy will have most of his fighters on CAP duty, right? (in that case fighters from escort "KB" should deal with his bombers (lightly escorted) from his two CVs and SC could hit and run...right?

But, what if he have more than two carriers (other CVs could follow his invasion cover group)? What if Zekes cant protect your CVEs (LR CAP from land over ships are only 20% effective as "regular" CAP from carriers)

It is really hard to say - go with your plan... the earlier one was based on prediction that Andy would do "x" but he did "y" and you run right into disaster...

But then again, Andy wouldn't expect you would do the same twice... (one episode from Black Adder just come to my mind: when general told Black Adder that he have brilliant plan...

BA: is it this plan frontal attack on germans positions in x area?
gen: ???? how did you know for plan?
BA: because, sir, we attacked 16 times before in x area and we lost about half million men...
gen: exactly! and that's why is my plan so brilliant. The enemy will not that we are going to attack again for 17th time!

Well, as usual i didn't offer any advice.... sorry

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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 1:20:53 PM   
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Appreciate the good advice Pauk
I'm only sending 1 cve within range of the US carriers: trying to 'lure' them within range of
heavy LBA. If only 1 enemy carrier TF reacts it would be smashed! If the enemy force remains more
than 10 hexes away from Palau - nothing is going to happend

As you see we got another issue to deal with now - have you ever experienced anything similar?



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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 1:57:38 PM   
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You are sneaky

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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/28/2006 2:12:14 PM   
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You mean ssssnnnneakkkkkyyyy




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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/29/2006 5:33:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PzB

I'm only sending 1 cve within range of the US carriers: trying to 'lure' them within range of
heavy LBA. If only 1 enemy carrier TF reacts it would be smashed! If the enemy force remains more
than 10 hexes away from Palau - nothing is going to happend

As you see we got another issue to deal with now - have you ever experienced anything similar?


Ahhh... that is really cunning plan...


As for issue... i have no idea whats going on - i had situations when my Zeros from China!!!(Ichang) escorted missions in PI (from Manila) but this is really wierd...

Did you ask Andy if he have both TFs in the area?

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RE: Dagua falls! - 3/30/2006 3:11:51 PM   
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Good luck PzB.. I think you may need it

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RE: Dagua falls! - 4/1/2006 1:20:00 AM   
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Guys,

I've been rather busy over the last few days - lots of preparations and logistics and tomorrow I'm moving
out of town. Not sure when I'll get my new isp up and running. So we're on hold until further notice

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RE: Dagua falls! - 4/1/2006 1:58:33 AM   
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nps .. i for one will miss this AAR , but work comes first .. hope the moves is easy and no-one drops a box of cutlery and plates .. nightmare ..

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RE: Dagua falls! - 4/1/2006 5:41:35 AM   
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Good luck with the move Boss, we stay tuned

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RE: Dagua falls! - 4/11/2006 10:24:19 PM   
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hope this AAR will continue soon...

this board isn't same without that...



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RE: Dagua falls! - 4/30/2006 9:15:47 PM   
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BUMP....a classic like this does not deserve 3rd page billing

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/1/2006 12:57:36 AM   
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nice one 33Vyper, however i did get my hopes up and assumed it was a PzB update ... you tempting hussy ..

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/1/2006 3:18:48 AM   
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Ba$%@#d, you got my hopes up as well.

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/1/2006 11:04:23 AM   
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hi, i know something that you may be interested about the game

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/1/2006 6:40:24 PM   
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go on Pauk , spill the beans or we'll call in the gestapo

the most treasured thread .. reduced to begging and bribes

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/2/2006 1:42:27 AM   
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do you realise that we are lowering hits per posts with our correspodention?

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/2/2006 5:03:01 AM   
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sorry about the gratuitous bump on this one....but I could not let this slip to the third page....and I think that some first timers to the forum should see this one....

I think the mods should sticky some of these classics

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/2/2006 11:07:29 AM   
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Two votes for a sticky!

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RE: Dagua falls! - 5/2/2006 5:06:22 PM   
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1st Sticky AAR .. great idea

3 votes now

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Still life! - 5/2/2006 7:51:47 PM   
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The war is scheduled to resume on the 6th of June or thereabout
Just got my long awaited ISP installed - gawd knows there was no end to complications.
Much overtime at work, so for now I'll play in the weekends plus odds and ends!

Planning to start a V1.8 Nik mod with my other opponent Mike Hall. Scrapped our old game,
too many bugs.

Anyway, thx for keeping the thread alive in my absence - I think the R&R has done me well!


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RE: Still life! - 5/2/2006 8:07:45 PM   
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Hi PzB .. glad your back and connected again.

I can heartily reccomend Nik mod .. makes air-air sooo much better. for late war i think the kamis will be quite effective.

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RE: Still life! - 5/8/2006 9:40:32 PM   
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...ekhm... someone forgot that he has an AAR to do...

Since PzB has gone, my life lost its sense....

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