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Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 12:18:19 AM

Nothingman

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Is it possible to use actual players and have a full draft? I don't see this as an option but hopefully I'm just missing something.

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 12:37:49 AM

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As far as I understand...no. This is because Lahman only has the current major league players, and not the minor leaguers. This means that you will be drafting the entire MLB, but not any minor leaguers, so even for a small league (rosters of 35) you will still have 10 players NOT on your major league roster and thus you will have scrubs.

One question that I have, however, is if you have less than the current allotment of MLB teams, would it be possible to fill up the teams with real players? Obviously if this was the case, those teams would rock, because they would be full of the best players in MLB, but thought I'd ask.

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 12:42:14 AM

DandricSturm

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It is possible. On the screen after you select which team(s) will be human controlled, near the bottom, select seed association with real players.

Of course if you have a large association fictional players will be generated enough to fill rosters. A small association, 6 to 10 teams or so, would not need many fictional players.

To check, I just created a 4 team association, seeded with 1953 players and there are no fictional players, even at A level.

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 12:54:28 AM

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The game will use any real player who got at least 1 at bat or 1 inning pitched.

So, for most modern years, the teams are a lot closer to 40 players, thanks to September call-ups - if you do a 35-man roster you're pretty much guaranteed 'all real players' if you use a recent year and the same number of teams as real life had.

Now, if you generate a 70-man roster association from 1901, when the teams may have used 30 players or so, and you ask for 16 teams just like real MLB had, the game will need to generate fictional players to 'fill out' the association. It used to do that with 10-point 'scrubs', but now actually generates reasonable players who may develop into competition for your 'real' players for big-league time.

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 1:59:21 AM

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So, for a league setup starting in 1901, would you use 35 man rosters?

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 3:01:50 AM

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I'd recommend that, with this build, yes.

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 4:01:35 AM

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What I want to do is use all of the real teams and players but have a full draft to start. So I selected the option to replay history in 2005. I selected seed association with real players and I get to the home screen. The only option I see now is Click here to load rosters from 2005 which puts all of the players on their real teams. Am I missing a Start draft now option somewhere or what?

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 4:16:35 AM

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Try this:
New game
Puresim Classic
Make your selections at the bottom of the screen - hit continue
Make your financial section - hit next
Choose your format - hit next
Name your teams - hit next
select your team - hit next
At the bottom of the next screen under player generation tools - pick what year you want the real players from.

That should get you to the draft when you hit next.

Good luck.

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 4:44:17 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Amaroq

I'd recommend that, with this build, yes.

How would you increase that later on when minor leagues came aboard?

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 4:49:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lynchjm24

Try this:
New game
Puresim Classic
Make your selections at the bottom of the screen - hit continue
Make your financial section - hit next
Choose your format - hit next
Name your teams - hit next
select your team - hit next
At the bottom of the next screen under player generation tools - pick what year you want the real players from.

That should get you to the draft when you hit next.

Good luck.

Thanks, that did it. I appreciate everyone's quick respones.

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RE: Draft using real players? - 5/18/2006 8:34:48 AM

Amaroq

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MizzouRah
How would you increase that later on when minor leagues came aboard?

Unfortunately, you can't.

I'm not too pleased with that - what I really want is to be able to run a 60-man association with all real-players, and have them develop through the minor-league system. To get that *perfectly*, what I need is to seed, for example, 1901 with all the big-league players from 1901... plus all of the players who debuted in 1902-1904, with their stats reduced to represent the 'learning' they're going to have to do in the minor leagues over the next year or two so that they *do* break into the bigs when they deserve to. Then, in 1902, let the teams draft from 1905's rookies, again reduced by three years of putative development time.

Since that's not how player-import works in the current version, we're left with two choices:

1. Use a 35-man roster, and be guaranteed all real players for the initial draft and subsequent years, with any shortfall made up by 10-point-scrubs.

2. Use a larger roster, and surrender that guarantee, getting a mix of real and quality fictional players in the initial draft. In subsequent years, most players draftable will be 'real', but a shortfall might be made up by quality fictional players if necessary.

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