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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 6:10:07 PM

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No wait. Let's go back to Terminus' monthly injection of WiTP material. He found 49 ships that did not belong. Did he find some that should be there but are not? I know this is actually WiTP related but it is an interesting topic.

Hee, you think that's bad? Half of the Japanese AKs and APs in the game never existed in real life. The developers have admitted that they gave the Japanese several times their historical merchant marine capacity.

Huh? The usual post (from players, i will admit) is that there were not enough merchant ships put in. I know that lots of USN transport (official USN ships) were left out, but i hadn't heard that the Japanese ships were put in...

Is the admission "that they gave the Japanese several times their historical merchant marine capacity" somewhere accessible? Is this based on haulage capacity, or what???

I too have read that admission. It was in a thread about 6 months ago or so, but I can't even begin to recall which one.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 6:17:50 PM

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I too have read that admission. It was in a thread about 6 months ago or so, but I can't even begin to recall which one.

oh man...

if anyone knows more about this, i would be curious (and would like to read it.)

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 6:21:19 PM

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Monday tithe.

I hate Mondays.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 6:22:27 PM

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So who doesn't? Though I have to admit, I like Tuesdays even less...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 6:35:39 PM

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So who doesn't? Though I have to admit, I like Tuesdays even less...

Wedensdays are the worst. By that point I'm thoroughly confused at work

, tired from Monday and Tuesday

, and the weekend is still two more days away

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 7:14:52 PM

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So who doesn't? Though I have to admit, I like Tuesdays even less...

Wedensdays are the worst. By that point I'm thoroughly confused at work , tired from Monday and Tuesday , and the weekend is still two more days away .

It's enough to drive a 'lil evil genius to drink... (and i guess it did from your avatar...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 7:22:05 PM

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It's enough to drive a 'lil evil genius to drink... (and i guess it did from your avatar... )

It's a health tonic I assure you.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 7:32:33 PM

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Yeah, like heroin's a cough suppressant...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 7:36:12 PM

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Yeah, like heroin's a cough suppressant...

Actually, heroin IS a highly effective cough suppressant... it just has some side effects!

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 7:38:15 PM

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Yeah, like heroin's a cough suppressant...

Why son, this miraculous, stupendous, tremendous formula will not only supress that cough, but will cure a cold and defeat fever. It cures all forms of ailgment ever known to afflect the human condition, and son this bottle of Niceguy's Divine Cure-all can be your for a paultry sum of just $29.95.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 8:02:39 PM

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Well, it's nice to be back after a week of trying to get my Mom's house ready to sell. My Mom moved in with us shortly before I came back from my deployment and I finally was able to take a week of vacation to start to prepare it to sell. The house is 150 miles from ours so I stayed there all week (no TV, radio or computer).

I rented a 40 cu yd dumpster and practically filled it (110 big trash bags and untold numbers of boxes and other junk). It's amazing how much junk a couple of 80+ yr old biddies (Mom and Aunt) can accumulate in a lifetime. My Mom kept all her mail since my Dad died in 1982.

That was scary.

Damn, I moved out 25 years ago to get away from my Mom, and there she is following me.

Anyway, other than the Monday blues here at work, it's good to be among you crazies again.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 8:47:35 PM

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My Mom kept all her mail since my Dad died in 1982. That was scary.

As in junk mail??

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 9:37:00 PM

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My Mom kept all her mail since my Dad died in 1982. That was scary.

As in junk mail??

Yup, junk mail as well as all her other mail. She filled up my old bedroom with it. The room was several feet deep in bags full of mail.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 9:45:10 PM

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My Mom kept all her mail since my Dad died in 1982. That was scary.

As in junk mail??

Yup, junk mail as well as all her other mail. She filled up my old bedroom with it. The room was several feet deep in bags full of mail.

Geh!!

Apparently, the elderly are quite prone to hoarding... almost everyone i've known that had to deal with an elderly relative has had to clean out a huge mess of hoarded cr@p. My brother's father-in-law would actually collect OTHER people's used pizza boxes and hoarded them...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:00:46 PM

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Geh!!

Apparently, the elderly are quite prone to hoarding... almost everyone i've known that had to deal with an elderly relative has had to clean out a huge mess of hoarded cr@p. My brother's father-in-law would actually collect OTHER people's used pizza boxes and hoarded them...

That's why I've started lobbying my parents, who are 65 to start tossing stuff. It seems to be working. They have been purging things and recently started talking about getting a smaller house.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:02:11 PM

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The only "elderly" (71) relative I have is my mother, and I (33) hoard more than she does...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:05:35 PM

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My Mom grew up during the depression (born 1920) and has always claimed that was the reason she was a pack rat.

I found one small drawer filled with 85 packs of playing cards.

Edit: Oh yeah, they were all new.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:06:27 PM

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The only "elderly" (71) relative I have is my mother, and I (33) hoard more than she does...

Well, we know that T has a lot of spam horded somewhere. He never seems to run out.

BTW, T, I like your new quotation.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:08:03 PM

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Heh... I figured it was time for a new one, and the episode where he says it was on TV tonight...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:15:51 PM

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Argh, Anti-Thread above The Thread! Must rectify!

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:19:22 PM

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My Mom grew up during the depression (born 1920) and has always claimed that was the reason she was a pack rat.

I found one small drawer filled with 85 packs of playing cards.

Edit:� Oh yeah, they were all new.

Yeah, that's the usual excuse, but on closer examination (with population studies, etc.) it probably is an excuse only.

i'm sure my brother's father-in-law suffered a severe shortage of used pizza boxes during the depression, causing him to want to hoard them now... after all, the COULD be useful...

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:23:51 PM

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My mom didn't grow up in the depression. She still has stuff in the attic that I played with in kindergarten (Some 30-odd years ago). I truly dread going through that attic.

We have been requesting to take things back with us when we visit, then tossing them. Pre-cleanup ....

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:32:19 PM

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We have been requesting to take things back with us when we visit, then tossing them. Pre-cleanup ....

My wife and I have been doing that for years. I don't want to think of what that house would look like if we hadn't.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:50:58 PM

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No wait. Let's go back to Terminus' monthly injection of WiTP material. He found 49 ships that did not belong. Did he find some that should be there but are not? I know this is actually WiTP related but it is an interesting topic.

Hee, you think that's bad? Half of the Japanese AKs and APs in the game never existed in real life. The developers have admitted that they gave the Japanese several times their historical merchant marine capacity.

Huh? The usual post (from players, i will admit) is that there were not enough merchant ships put in. I know that lots of USN transport (official USN ships) were left out, but i hadn't heard that the Japanese ships were put in...

Is the admission "that they gave the Japanese several times their historical merchant marine capacity" somewhere accessible? Is this based on haulage capacity, or what???

Players usually are gripping that all the junks, fishing boats and little tiny 50 tonners were not included from what I've read.

The overstocking of Japan with AKs and APs was admitted to way back when, somewhere here in the forum. The stated reason was to make up for the losses that the AI would take because it wasn't programmed to keep shipping away from Allied land-based air as I recall.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:51:40 PM

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My mom didn't grow up in the depression. She still has stuff in the attic that I played with in kindergarten (Some 30-odd years ago). I truly dread going through that attic.

Right - iirc, they've done studies that have shown that the rates of hoarding from elderly people who went through periods of deprivation (like the depression) are pretty similar to those who didn't go through deprivation.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:57:45 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if elderly women do most of the hoarding. It's most likely related to the female nesting instinct.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 10:57:57 PM

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My Mom kept all her mail since my Dad died in 1982. That was scary.

As in junk mail??

Did she at least open her mail? My dad didn't even bother opening it.

And you got off light if you only filled one dumpster. Cleaning out my father's (small) house took two. And three different complete cleanings by three different people/groups to get it to the point of being able to sell it as a "fixer-upper". *sounds of disgust*

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 11:25:28 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if elderly women do most of the hoarding. It's most likely related to the female nesting instinct.

Well, since women live longer, that might be true. But something seems to go wonky in elderly brains in general in the matter of keeping stuff, so i'm guessing that rate of hoarding between males and females adjusted for age might be pretty similar, although i don't recall seeing a study.

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 11:43:07 PM

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Did she at least open her mail? My dad didn't even bother opening it.

And you got off light if you only filled one dumpster. Cleaning out my father's (small) house took two. And three different complete cleanings by three different people/groups to get it to the point of being able to sell it as a "fixer-upper". *sounds of disgust*

This is why the good Lord arranged to have women live longer. Old men living by themselves....

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RE: The Thread!!! - 6/5/2006 11:47:55 PM

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They're a scary sight. I have an uncle (in his mid-80's), and since my aunt died a couple of years ago...

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