ADavidB
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ORIGINAL: Nomad I am wondering what people think of a Japanese player bombing the chinese HI, Resources, and/or oil centers? Is it a gamey thing or is it not? It is just inspired playing? I am holding my opinion until after a few resposnses. Thank you for the input. IMO - Sending 200 Japanese bombers escorted by 100 Zeros in early 1942 to turn Changsha, etc. into large craters is no more gamey than sending 200 B-24s escorted by 100 Corsairs to turn Mandalay, etc. into large craters in early 1943... What it comes down to is that Players who want to game the system must remember not to whine when the system is gamed back at them later on... Cheers - Dave Baranyi Greetings David, we shouldn't forget one thing: PDU! PDU is candyland and have nothing to do with history (btw, Allies doesn't have to wait for 1943 to do it - they can do earlier). I would not be able to have 200 bombers for offensive in the China without PDU So, i'm totally aware that i would be faced with situatins like you've described in your post, but i'm not going to restrict myself to historical play and when it comes to Allies to show me a stick (a big one) start to crying faul... Both sides have the capability to bring together 200+ bombers in early 1942 in a stock game without PDU; and that's without using naval air. The advantage that the Japanese side has in early 1942 is that they have Zeros with good pilots available to escort their LBA. The Allied player only has P-40Bs in limited numbers during the same time frame to provide long range escort. (Don't bring up Buffalos or the other garbage planes that the Brits and Dutch have - they are worthless.) In theory, an Allied player could fly all P-40Bs together in early 1942 and come up with something between 75 and 100 of them in one place, but with a replacement rate of 10 per month they can't be used for any extended period of time in combat without being depleted. What's the replacement rate per month of Zeros during the first half of 1942? It's probably something like ten times that of the P-40Bs. And without escorts bombers are quite vulnerable in the post-v1.50 versions of the game. What PDU does is to allow the Japanese player to bring very large quantities of much better fighters into play much earlier in the Game. Sure, the Allied player gets to replace more garbage bombers with better bombers, but the Allied player still doesn't get better long range fighters until late 1942 and doesn't get really dangerous mid-range fighters until early 1943. So unless the Japanese player is silly enough to get involved in a situation where there is a local advantage in total number of air bases in the Allied player's favor, even with PDU an Allied player is at a disadvantage until early 1943. So, in the end, is it "gamey" to use the resources that you have on hand to destroy the enemy's ability to fight? In my opinion, no, and that holds for both sides. Do I believe that some of the conditions and set-ups in the Game are poorly thought out and badly implemented? Yes, particularly in terms of land combat and rail movement. Take care - Dave Baranyi
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