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Map measurements - the 50 unit value - 7/4/2006 4:03:09 AM   
omegaall


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Status: offline 		How is this 50 meters/yards per hex measured ?

As one hex is supposed to be 50 meters/yards how does this relate to center of hex to center of the next hex??

In attached diagram which is the correct 50 unit value??








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RE: Map measurements - the 50 unit value - 7/4/2006 6:22:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		One hex equeals 50 metters from side to side. Center to side would be 25 metters.

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RE: Map measurements - the 50 unit value - 7/4/2006 7:47:10 AM   
omegaall


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Status: offline 		Thank on that part. So in a row it is straight forward to measure.

But how is this measured in a vertical manner. here a hex overlaps. So in the diagram which is 50 meters, line A or line B?

Line B joins the center of one hex to the centre of another hex so in theory it should be 50 meters. Line A is just the vertical distance between a line drawn through the centers of the hexs in a row and a similar line in the next row.

If line B is 50m then line A is about 43m
If line A is 50m them line B is about 56m

I know this is not useful for many things but map work there is some level of the need for understanding this.





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RE: Map measurements - the 50 unit value - 7/4/2006 8:15:24 PM   
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RE: Map measurements - the 50 unit value - 7/6/2006 5:46:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hex grid measurements have always been made from center-hex to center-hex, regardless of orientation, since the early days of wargaming. Because the center-to-center measurement = the side-to-side measurement, some games have used that instead. But no hex-grid game that I've ever seen made measurements like in Line A above; while that is the 'real' measurement, games usually "fudge" the vertical hexgrid measurements in order to keep the 6-axis movement system. 

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RE: Map measurements - the 50 unit value - 7/7/2006 2:25:11 PM   
omegaall


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Status: offline 		This fudge issue is all well and good for "the game":
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ORIGINAL: FlashfyreSP

Hex grid measurements have always been made from center-hex to center-hex, regardless of orientation, since the early days of wargaming. Because the center-to-center measurement = the side-to-side measurement, some games have used that instead. But no hex-grid game that I've ever seen made measurements like in Line A above; while that is the 'real' measurement, games usually "fudge" the vertical hexgrid measurements in order to keep the 6-axis movement system. 


But when working from maps and building them, such fudging will skew the actual XY relationships. So you end up with a stilted map.
hence the need to get the real meanings of these distances.

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RE: Map measurements - the 50 unit value - 7/7/2006 3:44:48 PM   
Twotribes


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Status: offline 		From center to center no matter in any of the 6 directions it will be 50 meters or yards. It doesnt say it is 50 yards from the center of one hex to the center of a side on another hex. Use a ruler for that. The grid would optimally be placed on top of a premade map.

In game terms this isnt really possible, the map has to be made inside the hexgrid system. Thats just the limits of the game.

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