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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 6/16/2006 6:30:41 AM   
Amaroq

 

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ORIGINAL: DonBraswell

The story on the APBA board is that APBA is still trying to get the rights from the Miller Bros. The Millers quit after all of the MLB player law suits. I don't buy stadiums, I made my own. Listening to Ernie takes me back to an eleven year old with the radio under the pillow trying to get the fading signal of a White Sox game out of Chicago. It was hard to be a Yankee and White Sox fan living in Alabama.
Don


Heh. At age 12, maybe '85 or '86, I was flipping through the radio looking for 'something good' one evening. I picked up a Red Sox game, coming in crystal clear, which struck me as being the 'game of the week' or some such. Only a couple innings into it did I start figuring out that felt like a local broadcast. Surely rebroadcast somewhere closer to home, I figured.

About the 7th inning it started fading towards static, and I remember frantically playing with it trying to tune it perfectly. No dice - I was just losing it! Finally, I settled on what I thought was the 'best' setting for it, and forced myself not to touch it again. I had to really concentrate to listen through the static for the ninth inning, which the Sox won in dramatic fashion if I recall, Wade Boggs coming through with a two-out double in the ninth to drive the Fenway Park crowd wild..

I made sure not to touch the dial when I turned it off, but the next morning, there was nothing but static at that point on the dial.

Freak atmospheric conditions, I figure now - but from then on I was a closet Red Sox fan - despite having always favored the pinstripes before that!

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 1:40:22 AM   
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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 1:42:54 AM   
rowech

 

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Status: offline 		Computer it was MicroLeague Baseball II.  Moved onto the Front Page Sports baseball game.  In between those two, I got into board games using Statis-Pro, Strat-O-Matic, and Pursue the Pennant.  I'm now a Replay Baseball man having solf off all of my other baseball board games. 

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 1:56:45 AM   
SittingDuck

 

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 2:13:51 AM   
Cantankerous


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Status: offline 		And here I thought I was the only person to have played Earl Weaver's Baseball on a Commodore Amiga.

My good friend and I grew up big baseball fans, and we played the old Avalon Hill board game Statis-Pro Baseball (in a box up in the attic even right now). I remember an old computer arcade game called "Hardball", but I can't remember on what gaming/computer system it was based.  (This was a game back in the mid 80's (?) and featured only two teams, the Champs and the All-Stars.  I remember scoring the games and keeping records of the stats.)

There was another computer game (pre-Earl Weaver) that I remember playing (it must have been on a Commodore 64), but for the life of me I can't remember the name.

Those games were great, but I'm glad that games like ProSim now exist to make stats-keeping much more automated!

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 2:43:08 AM   
Nukester


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Status: offline 		I started with the old All-Star Baseball game with the round cards and the spinners. Then, believe it or not, I move on to "Charlie Brown Baseball". This was the game that taught me how to keep a scorebook, and the differences between different pitches. From there I played a game called "Longball" in which you have ratings on each player, and each team had there own team card. You rolled 2 8-sided dice and looked at charts to see the outcome. From there it was Strat-O-Matic and Superstar Baseball (I think that was an SI game). Probably the only tabletop sim I didnt play was APBA.

From there we moved onto the computer age. I remember going into the computer store (in the mid 80's there were not many games of any kind on the market) and picking up a copy of "Radio Baseball" and a copy of "Microleague Baseball". I ended up buying Microleague "because of the awesome graphics !!". From there it was Earl Weaver, Hardball (bleh), APBA - Ernie Harwell's Broadcast Blast (man, if someone could do speech like that in a game now, it would be GOLDEN !!), FPSBBPro, High Heat, then OOTP. Im just now looking into PureSim

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 2:45:27 AM   
sposfan

 

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Status: offline 		First baseball game was SOM dice and cards with the 1982 season. kept playing that until the computer version came out and then switched to that and then got fed up with SOM and went to DMB, fell in love and never looked back!

Pretty much played all the cards and dice games: SOM, Sherco, Replay, Statis Pro and a whole bunch others that have faded into memory!

Also played earl weaver. I remember going to the community library to use the computer, since mine didn't have the vga or ega screen needed to run it! <G>

Played another game, think it was something like SI baseball or something on my old 286. Played Puresim since pretty much day 1, but this version really gave me the bug, I've played it more than I've probably played all previous versions combined!!

Still play DMB, puresim and recently (past 3-4 years) got back into the card and dice game with Replay baseball, which i still play from time to time, but not often enough!

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 3:01:23 AM   
akcranker


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Status: offline 		My first baseball games were all arcade type games on consoles.  I've always enjoyed all of those games because I could control the players and teams but as the years went on they added more and more GM capabilities and I loved it but they never seemed to have the complete package and then while browsing the internet for a good text based sim I came across Puresim 2003 and I've been a fan of it ever since.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 3:37:15 AM   
Nth Power

 

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Status: offline 		Myself and a few friends started playing Pursue the Pennant back in the early '90s and couldn't get enough.  One of the yearly highlights was getting the new year's card set with all the new stats.  Good memories of those times!

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 3:44:13 AM   
captskillet


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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 4:20:20 AM   
SittingDuck

 

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Status: offline 		I gotta admit, the best part about Earl Weaver Baseball was when the manager would run out to the plate and start cussing out the umpire.

Classic!  Gee, I wonder who inspired that?

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 5:46:07 AM   
rwd59

 

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Status: offline 		Strat-o-matic cards & dice 1970.
Computer baseball by SSI, yep thats the name of it. For an Apple IIc

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 11:44:14 AM   
Marsh511

 

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Status: offline 		First sim game: APBA (1968)...followed by my best friend getting Strat...and so the feud began!
First PC game: Statis Pro (1981) -- I was in nirvana with my Apple IIE or whatever...and that game! And then came APBA, Strat, and PTP with their PC games in the mid-80's.

And now I still play them all!

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 11:49:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cantankerous

And here I thought I was the only person to have played Earl Weaver's Baseball on a Commodore Amiga.



Best Computer Baseball game ever!

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 3:14:14 PM   
torque561

 

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Status: offline 		I first started with All-Star baseball. I switched to SOM and Negamco, I played many board games over the years. My last board game was Pursue the Pennant. My first computer game was Miller which was actually APBA.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/7/2006 10:43:35 PM   
matt0177

 

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Status: offline 		Old Avalon Hill boardgame in the late 80's early 90's, only game with 2 fake teams, so I would make my cards with 3 X 5 index cards and stats from my 1988 sporting news basbeball guide. To this day, I remain an expert on 1987 baseball. ;)

My first computer sim was Persue The Pennant, was actully looking for a copy of that when I stumbled across puresim, what a huge improvement.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/8/2006 12:28:54 AM   
jtfesta

 

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Status: offline 		Started with all the board games - SOM, APBA, Pursue the Pennant, Extra Innings, Pennant Fever, Long Ball - Them moved to LaRussa, Earl Weaver, Micro League, APBA for Windows, SOM, High Heat and OOTP.  I really like the "feel" of Pure Sim.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/8/2006 1:12:41 AM   
NOCAHOMA

 

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Status: offline 		This is my first post on the boards, being a newbie and former OOTP enthusiast...so be gentle

My first baseball gaming experience was in the late '60's with a game I think someone referred to earlier where you initiated action with a wheel-type pitch and response, then rolled dice and looked on the player cards for the results. The pictures were black & white, the logos were air-brushed off. I remember Hank Aaron and Willie Mays doing the bulk of the damage, but Frank Howard was pretty awesome too! I later moved to Strat-O-Matic in the early 70's. But there was one game that I remember vividly...it was called "Talking Baseball". There were little red and blue discs that looked like mini-albums, and you popped it into a player, chose your pitch and off it went. I spent hours playing that game...it was so cool!!!

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/8/2006 4:01:59 AM   
Phatguy

 

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Status: offline 		started with the 1985 version of stratomatic. 10 of us got together and made our own league,drafting players . The most memorable thing I remember was having Kirk Gibson hit homers in the first 12 games for me... ahhh, the memories.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/9/2006 9:29:42 AM   
Captainfirst

 

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Status: offline 		Wow, I really am a rookie compared to all of you. First game was APBA board game, started in 2000. Bought Action! last year in a buy one, get another half-off deal. Really wanted the football sim and figured what the hey, let's toss baseball in there.

Have to say that as much as I love Dave K's football game, the baseball never seemed quite right. Was going to buy the APBA computer version of baseball next month but when I googled "baseball simulation", Puresim came up on the first page of results. Bought it yesterday.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/10/2006 5:28:38 AM   
hano13

 

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Status: offline 		I started on Micro-League baseball on the Apple ][e .  Oh my goodness I was in heaven when they came out with the general manager/stat-tracker disk so I could create my own teams and didn't have to update all my stats by hand with pencil and paper after every game!  Eventually went to MicroLeague II after making the jump to the Microsoft/Intel world and ran several leagues with my buddies in college with it.  Loved the realistic stats combined with the in-game animation in that game.  It was simple, yet suspenseful.  Puresim's animated ball flight is the closest I've seen to it since.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/10/2006 10:04:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SittingDuck

I gotta admit, the best part about Earl Weaver Baseball was when the manager would run out to the plate and start cussing out the umpire.

Classic! Gee, I wonder who inspired that?



Lol, there were actually 2 animations, one where he would go out and argue, the other where he would go out and kick dirt. As a house league rule, we had it that should your manager go out a kick dirt, he was ejected and your team was turned over to the CPU.

Just a great game...

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/10/2006 7:05:13 PM   
RedArgo


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Status: offline 		Started with a dice game a friend created, then moved to AH Statis Pro Baseball for the Apple IIe. We played SSI Computer Baseball, Lance Haffner baseball, Micro League Baseball, Earl Weaver, Pursue the Pennant, Stratomatic (computer version), Front Page, and now I play PureSim. I wish I had the time like we used too. One of my friends spent a whole summer playing both sides of every single game for every team on PTP. He had too much time.

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/11/2006 12:05:41 AM   
SittingDuck

 

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ORIGINAL: Claymore Cut

Lol, there were actually 2 animations, one where he would go out and argue, the other where he would go out and kick dirt. As a house league rule, we had it that should your manager go out a kick dirt, he was ejected and your team was turned over to the CPU.

Just a great game...


True enough. I d/l it some time ago from some oldware site. Can't recall the name, but it was one of the biggies. If anyone remembers those kinda site names, lemme know.

Anyhow, I think there was one where he also went out to the mound, right? "C'mere, Palmer -lemme tell you a thing or two!!!" Hilarious....

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RE: Where did you all get started (first Basball Sim) - 7/11/2006 8:30:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SittingDuck



Anyhow, I think there was one where he also went out to the mound, right? "C'mere, Palmer -lemme tell you a thing or two!!!" Hilarious....


You could go to the mound to speak to the pitcher. Both he and the catcher gave opinions as to the state of the Pitchers arm (pircher would say one thing, the catcher would say another). Great fun going out there and trying to make up your mind what to do. Something I would like to see added to puresim as well, adds great fun to bullpen management.

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