Matrix Games Forums

Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

RE: bad luck - i guess...

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 >> After Action Reports >> RE: bad luck - i guess... Page: <<   < prev  20 21 [22] 23 24   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/11/2006 6:16:05 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
Greetings Gary,

It doesn't look a bad on the picture but i doubt that would be able to capture Yunan due poor logistic (supply spoilage on the Yunan-Nanning trails)...

And Andy have one and 1/3 Chinese corps 60 miles south form Yunan with respectable AV - 350..



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/26/43

Another quiet day passed so i will focus on future plans and operations.... Here is, just for you guys, document directly from Imperial HQ!





As you may see it my defence in Marshalls/Solomons/PNG looks pretty thin at the moment but i'm reinforcing it and will deploy my air units at Marshalls in battle formation...

CHINA

Mess. Priority goals are:

- close Burma road again
- save 2 divisions and bde from total encircling and eliminating them

IMPERIAL HQ NEWS SHEET

BB Mushasi arrives tomorow and will free 185 naval shipyard points. Will leave alone for few days and see what is happening with NS points pool.

After that i have few choices:

- accelerating two CVLs (Chioda and Chitose - 304 days from arrival
- back sub production to normal (i have plenty of subs on halt)


Still not sure what i will do. In about two weeks Taiho arrives and will boost the strength of my Mobile Force. Currently have 8 CVs (520 ac), 4 CVL (139 ac) and 4 CVE (capacity - 100 ac). That is the force which need to be respected!

By June 3 Unryus will enter service and KB will have another 195 ac...



Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/11/2006 6:17:00 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to GaryChildress)
Post #: 631
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/11/2006 6:23:00 PM   
Speedysteve

 

Posts: 15998
Joined: 9/11/2001
From: Reading, England
Status: offline
Poor player Pauk.....useless

_____________________________

WitE 2 Tester
WitE Tester
BTR/BoB Tester

(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 632
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/11/2006 6:25:43 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
bah! you are jealous - you couldn't look so evil on photo even if you wanted to look like....

and please, don't SPAM this AAR masterpiece

_____________________________


(in reply to Speedysteve)
Post #: 633
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/11/2006 6:32:15 PM   
Speedysteve

 

Posts: 15998
Joined: 9/11/2001
From: Reading, England
Status: offline
First - correct

Second -

_____________________________

WitE 2 Tester
WitE Tester
BTR/BoB Tester

(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 634
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/11/2006 6:37:42 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
you are killing my average per post!!!!

now, do you have a good advice to offer (that was, of course, rhetorical question - of course you cant offer a good advice)

_____________________________


(in reply to Speedysteve)
Post #: 635
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/11/2006 6:44:12 PM   
Speedysteve

 

Posts: 15998
Joined: 9/11/2001
From: Reading, England
Status: offline
I know I try and track my average per post aswell. It's only 14.43 on my AAR with Fabertong. I thought it was a good AAR. I guess not

Where are your CV's based?

As to where he may go. I would asume he is pretty p*ssed with the PzB thing so may be not a massive Cent Pac push?

_____________________________

WitE 2 Tester
WitE Tester
BTR/BoB Tester

(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 636
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/11/2006 7:00:00 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
KB is in Indian ocean (see picture)... i missed Lex when she was escorting British CL and DDs (i think) to India because he just can't affort to get another penalty. I think he is low on PP or even in negative numbers...

that is why i placed KB so far from Pacific, but both of us could be wrong...

I expect him to attack Marshalls with LBA and fighter cover from Makin (he expanded AF to level 3). In that case, he can start offensive even without carriers.

I was so close two or three times to hurt his naval assests so i've decided to risk and wait little longer. Lets hope he will become impatient and careless! Meanwhile i will rotate one CV for upgrade - Kaga reached SIngapore, and when Taiho joins i will have more freedom to rotate my CVs.

BTW, your AAR is good stuff, but you are playing worthless Allies. Seriously, i dont know why so many people following my AAR....perhaps i fooled them and they think I'm really good player

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/11/2006 8:38:54 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to Speedysteve)
Post #: 637
Burma road closed again.... - 7/12/2006 2:05:32 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/27/43

Ok, finally some action... Myitkina becomes real pain in the ass. Will try do something about that...


Day Air attack on 7th Tank Regiment, at 36,30

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 14
Spitfire Vb x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane II bombing at 2000 feet
21 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet



I should decorated this brave sub commander... after a months of sub force inactivity one of them found and attack the enemy! Several hits scored from 25mm AA gun, one from 5inch gun and one torpedo (critical hit) - not that i'm always systematic, but i would like to see this ship sink to see if they are only decoy ships or perhaps have ac group loaded...i need that intel for my cunning plan....


Sub attack at 1,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
AK Empire Bruce, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage



It seems that enemy slowly withdrawing from their fortified position 60 miles from Kweiyang. Will wait little more...


Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3272 troops, 120 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2927

Defending force 104368 troops, 61 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2513



Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported


Ok, this was on Burma road. This hex is now only IJA contested which means Burma road should be closed - again!

Ground combat at 37,30

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 944 troops, 0 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 472 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Japanese max assault: 88 - adjusted assault: 196

Allied max defense: 2 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 65 to 1

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!



As you may see from the picture, i have a plans for tomorrow.. lets hope for the best...








IMPERIAL HQ NEWS SHEET

We decided to build significant IJA figter pilots reserve - 300 pilots with 75 experience will wait in Home islands until the decisive battle occurs. Can't count i will be always in position to train my fighters so these 300 veterans will be my last reserve and mobilised only in desperate situation or when Frank arrives...





Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/12/2006 2:06:21 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 638
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/12/2006 2:49:19 PM   
ctangus


Posts: 2153
Joined: 10/13/2005
From: Boston, Mass.
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: pauk

Seriously, i dont know why so many people following my AAR....


Well, it's a fun read for me. I hope you don't mind this B-24 fanboy lurking here.

How long do you plan to keep KB in the Indian Ocean?

(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 639
RE: bad luck - i guess... - 7/12/2006 3:03:26 PM   
Speedysteve

 

Posts: 15998
Joined: 9/11/2001
From: Reading, England
Status: offline
I have no idea why people are reading this either

_____________________________

WitE 2 Tester
WitE Tester
BTR/BoB Tester

(in reply to ctangus)
Post #: 640
Re:Burma road closed again.... - 7/12/2006 6:06:41 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
Ctangus, it is always nice to hear from new reader! Of course i don't mind - if Japan had these toys i'would be ther fanboy too

Honestly i don't know how long i will keep KB in Indian Ocean - it's risky operation especially if Andy starts offensive towards PM or Marshalls. But i hope he will stay in defensive mode for several weeks more. Many times before he successfully sneaks just in front of my nose just because i was rational with my moves- this time formula is "no pain no gain!". Besides, i expect that Indian ocean is area is place where i can take a minimal losses... but, who knows...

Ah, Speedy, can't you just live with that i'm popular and famous player




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/28/43

Well, even if lose this game (but i don't see how it is possible), it would be because i'm most unfortunate player in the world. My plans are brilliant but my commanding officers are like Speedy - incompetent, I'm telling you!!!

Sub didn't attack enemy AK(s) in Indian ocean, and Zeros ordered on LR CAP at Yunan intercepted enemy air transports. Andy using bombers to transport supply to that base and my Samurais didn't had a great day... 9-4 in air losses and combined with ops losses i've lost 6 pilots... One of them was an ace with 8 kills... grrr...

Less experienced Daitai, F1 Omura (70) shot down 3 enemy planes and lost 4 pilots. Two pilots were awarded with kills: M. Kawato (2) and his experience increased from 69 to 76...
R. Sagara got one kill and got 4 exp points (66/70)..

More experienced Daitai, F2 Ominato (79) shoted down 6 enemy planes and lost 2 pilots - unfortunatly, despite i lost above mentioned ace it seems that almost none of winners didn't survive...




Not sure it was worth an effort and human resources... but on the other side 5 American Mitchells which were trained for several months are lost too.. Still I would expect that bombers loaded with supply would be easier targets....

CHINA

Attrition war in China continues...


Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 33
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-49 Helen x 47
Ki-46-II Dinah x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 74

at 6000 feet

----------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 32
Ki-21 Sally x 98

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged


Allied ground losses:
242 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 108

all bombing at 6000 feet



Attack from Hanoi - would prefer that my bombers attacked stronger unit but...

Day Air attack on Manchuria Adv/B Corps, at 37,33 - 60 miles south of Yunan.

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 12
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-49 Helen x 45

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

All bombing at 6000 feet





Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/13/2006 1:13:28 AM >


_____________________________


(in reply to Speedysteve)
Post #: 641
damned picket ships! - 7/13/2006 1:51:28 AM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/30/43

Ok, from where to start.... last turn started promising. I-32 found another enemy merchant and delivers....

Sub attack at 1,56

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
AK Empire March, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire


Tony Sentai based at Lashio again LR CAPed my units east of the base....

Day Air attack on Yokosuka 1st SNLF, at 36,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 29

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 10 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 7 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hurricane II bombing at 2000 feet
11 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet


Now, that was sweet, indeed. 18 enemy planes shot down without a single plane lost. In 1943, you can't get victories like that often. After successful interception Sentai is withdrawn to Raehang but several planes (and experienced pilots!) left at the Lashio. Recon unit is also withdrawn from the base and no red x symbol left.... lets hope he wont strike on Lashio tomorrow...


Then, as it was planed light carrier division found two enemy merchant ships which, suprisingly, sneaks SE of TF position...

Day Air attack on TF at 3,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 10
B5N Kate x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Indianan, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Rennie, Torpedo hits 2, on fire


In the afernoon, planes from KB finds damaged ships!... this was resulted with attack and Andy knows where is KB now.... The truth is, no all groups were flying on attack, but all figther groups escorted my bombers.... stupid, stupid, stupid... there is nothing you can do about picket ships....phew!






Day Air attack on TF at 3,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 17
D3A Val x 19
A6M3a Zero x 118

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Indianan, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Rennie, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

---------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 3,66

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 23
A6M3a Zero x 13
B5N Kate x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Rennie, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Not that is a consolation, but my I-boats continue to attack enemy merchies...

Sub attack at 1,58

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
AK Empire Lakeland, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


------------------------------------------------------------
Sub attack at 1,57

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AK Empire March, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage



So, my cunning plan brought me 4 enemy merchants sunk, while main convoy (further on north) left untouched and will escape...

What now? KB will return to Bali first and then heading to Truk. I can not let Pacific undefended now when Andy knows where is KB. I will leave light CV division to delay enemy merchants but in front of this TF my subs will looking for merchants - still their main mission is early warning......


Fragment of 96th Chinese Division arrives at Burma road but it was repulsed and forced to retreat towards Myitkina...



Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/13/2006 1:53:49 AM >


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 642
RE: damned picket ships! - 7/13/2006 10:06:55 AM   
Honda


Posts: 953
Joined: 5/5/2004
From: Karlovac, Croatia
Status: offline
Perhaps a good way to deal with pickets would be submarine huner-killer groups. You take 2 Glenn subs and 4-6 normal ones (just not Ros). Keep them together in one TF and when a picket is located fan out in its general direction. I for one plan to use that on a larger scale, but for pickets, this should do.

_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 643
RE: damned picket ships! - 7/13/2006 5:50:59 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
That is exactly (well, almost) I'm going to do, Honda. The only difference is that i will leave subs alone (not keeping them in one TF) because they can cover more space! And, i need Glenn equipped subs both in the north and south because i don't want to have my Light Carrier division (I'm considering joining Junyo or Hyio becasue they have Vals - lets keep Andy in the faith as long as possible that KB looking for trouble in Indian ocean) suprised...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/31/43


Enemy transport spoted at Makin port and raiders were sent immediately. Unfrotunatly, only one raider TF (the other was consisted of three old DDs too but with poor commander) found the juicy target...

Night Time Surface Combat, near Makin at 85,89

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
DD Mikazuki
DD Numakaze
DD Kuri

Allied Ships
ML Oglala, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
AK Utahan
AK Henry S Grove
AK Admiral Senn, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk







CL Sendai gain one night exp point (now is 70/75) and Mikazuki 2 night exp points (68/73). I'm still waiting on reports that Oglala is sunk but so far i didn't have luck - i would certainly like to see thase huge capacity ML on the bottom of the sea...

I guess we can expect PTs at Makin in the near future....

Another enemy transport in the Indian ocean says goodbye...

Sub attack at 1,55

Japanese Ships
SS I-157

Allied Ships
AK Empire Bruce, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage



Day Air attack on Lashio - he he, Andy doesn't know there are several crack pilots at the base waiting to be killed...

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 7






AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/01/43

Minefields becoming almost inefficient after they are located (this was done by enemy tanker couple of weeks ago)

TF 1005 encounters mine field at Palmyra (106,85)

Allied Ships
PG Kiwi


Bettys from Rangoon attack Dutch DDs and my veteran Zero pilots had a hard time against them - although one Betty group was set to 19 000 feet!


Day Air attack on TF, near Diamond Harbor at 28,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 32

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 16
I-16c x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
I-16c: 6 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Van Galen, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tjerk Hiddes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Isaac Sweers


Dutch destroyers aren't durable - Van Galen and Tjerk Hiddes (magazine explodes!) are sunk...

IMPERIAL NEWS SHEET HQ

My naval shipyard pool is still empty - 185 NS points relased from Musashi didn't help to it. My big transport subs didn't moved earlier for one day - i guess that other numerous subs in shipyards eating lots of NS points together with Tahio and 3 Unryus.. will keep an eye on that...

Our spies in Downing street 10 told us that 600 PP points was paid for not sending 2 DDs back to Churchy, and that this ol' good boy put up a new demand for February:

BB + 2 DD

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/13/2006 5:59:45 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to Honda)
Post #: 644
RE: damned picket ships! - 7/15/2006 2:43:53 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/04/43


CHINA

Suppresion of the chinese airfields continues - but with high cost, i would say. Several Army bombers is lost (ops) every turn because Andy massed troops in Chungking..

Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 64
Ki-21 Sally x 81
Ki-48 Lily x 26
Ki-49 Helen x 50
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 7 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
342 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 70

bombing at 7000 feet

--------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 34
Ki-21 Sally x 91

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged


Allied ground losses:
46 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 39
at 11000 feet



Now, now... interesting result, indeed. Enemy must be low with supplies because their adjusted AV is really poor - and that battle occurs in mountainous hex... however, japanese troops suffers significant casaulties...

Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 161110 troops, 1924 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 3255

Defending force 104175 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2493

Japanese max assault: 3258 - adjusted assault: 1345

Allied max defense: 2400 - adjusted defense: 988

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
4400 casualties reported
Guns lost 143
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
668 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


Can not continue with attack - disruption is high (75) and we will have to wait few days. Meanwhile, one more division should arrives as reinforcement and should be enough to defeat Chinese on Kweiyang-Yunan road. But, i'm expecting that Andy will withdraw troops one hex closer to Yunan which is also mountanious terrain to buy some more time...

Unfortunatly, my bombers refuses to attack the enemy here and can not count on support from air. I need that victory to keep going Konichiwa-go!

Waiting for better weather and will test skies over Yunan to figure if Andy sending supply to Yunan too....

IMPERIAL HQ NEWS SHEET

Taiho is turned back to normal building and she will arrive in 6 days. I need these 230 NS points for my sub building program - only six of them were producing while Taiho was accelerated. Let's see if that would help.

KB operations - my carrier divisions are in Indonesia waters and sailing towards Palau. When they reach Palau i will decide if Shokaku and Zuikaku will change their course and instead Truk, sails for HI for upgrade.... Junyo was assigned to light carrier division in Indian ocean.


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 645
dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/16/2006 7:25:22 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline


Nothing to report another few days until 9th February. But, then comes only bad news..

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/09/43

One more sub is lost due Allied ASW forces. I wonder what CA doing in this TF. Perhaps he needs naval ships for offensive in PNG/Solomons?

ASW attack at 75,114

Japanese Ships
SS I-22, hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DMS Hopkins
DMS Hovey
DMS Southard
DD Laffey
DD Aaron Ward
DD Monssen
DD Grayson
DD Gwin
DD Waller
CA Chester


So, another failed attack occurs. Last time i got 1-1 with deliberate attack. I've rested my troops, reinforced army with one division and got 0-1... hmph... who understand mysterious ways of ground combat?

My only guess is that i was short of support because one more division "eats" some support from two HQs i have in the hex and all of my units were in red (support). Supply is normal. Ok, i have one more HQ on way and one Group army HQ - GA HQ was already in the range (5 hexes) but i will bring this unit in the same hex and try to get support in green.



Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 171947 troops, 1988 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 3294

Defending force 102725 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2424

Japanese max assault: 6460 - adjusted assault: 769

Allied max defense: 2332 - adjusted defense: 1009

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
3811 casualties reported
Guns lost 201
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
575 casualties reported
Guns lost 2







Attachment (1)

_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 646
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/16/2006 9:15:08 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline

ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/10 1943

Still quit. Enemy recons from Australia (Alice Springs, Cocktown) reconing northern Australia and PNG (Port Moresby, Gili gili and two small bases behing Gili).

Taiho arrives in Tokyo and immediatly sent, together with Musashi to Saipan. What a fine ship equipped with Zekes, Judys and Jills! But, there is always a but:






Her aircrew is quite inexperienced and if i want to have Taiho as my main striking force in KB i must have at least veteran crew. This can be achived in several ways:

1. training with her orginal groups (Zekes etc) - this is simply out of question, because:

a) will give Andy free intel
b) i can not replace Zekes, Judys and Jills lost due ops because they are not produced yet.

2. downgrading to existing ac model. This could work but again. I can downgrade Zekes only to A6M3a - have no idea why i can not downgrade Zekes to A6M2...NOTE TO ALL JAPANESE PLAYERS: if you want train your Taiho ac groups and try to hide them in other Zero groups you should upgrade training airgroups to A6M3 earlier - lets say about a month earlier

Now, this won't resolve intel info - designation of the group is visible and if Andy looks at boring combat screens he will realise what's happening. So, my only chance is hiding this group in training camp where i have a lot of Zeros. It would be better for me downgrading to A6M2 model since i still have Palembang as training camp (100+ A6M2) and if i downgrade Taiho fighter airgoup to A6M3 this group will be the only one and quite visible - both in combat screen and CR text.

So, all i can do is upgrade few A6M2 landbased groups to A6M3a and wait some time until Andy check designation numbers. After that i can move Taiho ac group and withdraw one landbased A6M3a just to keep same number of ac...

3. I can transfer high experienced carrier capable daitais to Taiho but somehow i just don't like it - it is kind of exploit for me but on the other hand, enemy picket ships can identify my carriers pretty easy....

so, what do you think guys? Should i try one of mentioned solutions?





Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/16/2006 9:18:39 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 647
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/16/2006 9:45:12 PM   
Nemo121


Posts: 5821
Joined: 2/6/2004
Status: offline
I'm not sure I'd bother at all. After all Andy probably has his hands so full with his own logistics that he is unlikely to watch combat animations in sufficient detail to track individual airgroups don't you think? Or maybe he IS that meticulous?

(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 648
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/16/2006 9:57:08 PM   
Gen.Hoepner


Posts: 3645
Joined: 9/4/2001
From: italy
Status: offline
Pauk, do not think Andy will bother looking at a boring combat screen with your training zeros at Palembag...so i'd go for it: downgrade to A6M3 and keep training them till they're crack! Unluckly you'll soon face hordes of corsairs and Seafires....so even the Zekes won't be that usefull

_____________________________

[image]http://yfrog.com/2m70331348022314716641664j [/image]

(in reply to Nemo121)
Post #: 649
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/17/2006 1:54:58 AM   
invernomuto


Posts: 986
Joined: 10/8/2004
From: Turin, Italy
Status: offline
Hi pauk,
have you tried to downgrade your A6M5 to A6M3a and then from A6M3a to A6M2?


_____________________________


(in reply to Gen.Hoepner)
Post #: 650
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/17/2006 3:49:20 PM   
NemRod

 

Posts: 124
Joined: 12/24/2004
Status: offline

NOTE TO ALL JAPANESE PLAYERS: if you want train your Taiho ac groups and try to hide them in other Zero groups you should upgrade training airgroups to A6M3 earlier - lets say about a month earlier

[/quote]
Thanks for the advice but I don't think I'm going to hide the Taiho arrival. The jap player knows when allied planes or ships are available, so it's not unfair if the allied player gets this kind of intel too.
When I open the AAR section ( no time do to it very often sadly ) this excellent one is always on my top list.
The lost of Myitkyina is very annoying in my opinion. It might enable him to open the Burma front much earlier than historical. Can't you gather enough troops and aircover to retake it? it's only ealy 43, may be not too late.

(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 651
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/17/2006 4:19:47 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline
you can't hide group number

_____________________________


(in reply to NemRod)
Post #: 652
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/17/2006 6:53:12 PM   
WhoCares


Posts: 653
Joined: 7/6/2004
Status: offline
You can also put the groups of the carriers scheduled for R&R on Taiho (e.g. Zuikako or Shokaku in your case).
And if you fear to give too much intel when training the Taiho groups let them stand down somewhere until Taiho has made its appearance.
You can play this game of rotating airgroups with all carriers returning from and arriving for R&R - little use for planes on a carrier parked at the HI. In urgent cases you can still move the Taiho airgroups on the R&R carriers though they wouldn't have trained until Taiho saw some action.

To train the airgroups you might choose other missions, e.g. ASW for the bomber groups. don't think (but not sure) that these report the airgroup with a sighting/attack.

< Message edited by WhoCares -- 7/18/2006 2:46:39 PM >

(in reply to Sneer)
Post #: 653
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/18/2006 6:39:06 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
thanks to all:

Nemo: i don't think he is meticulous at all, but i'm quite paranoic person

It's nice to have Little Italy here again, GH and Invernomuto!: You are right, GH i will meet with hordes of corsairs soon so i need to have "decisive battle" before 1944 - this is PDU and no restrictions on Corsairs after January 1944.

Andy playing very good this game, but i dare to say not spirited. He is too competetive and i think and he hate loosing - and he waits for Corsairs and Hellcats, not to mention for Essexs (he got one or two so far). So, i'm quite dissapointed with our game in last few months (although i'm still enjoying because i'm micromanagment freak) and don't have illusions - this game dying slowly (from the Japanese point of view) until the moment when Andy decide to employ all his assests... than i'm doomed...

so, what i can expect from him - grashoppers operations from Makin to Marshalls and moving Corsairs to Yunan and Kumning. That is why i rushing Konichiwa go - unfortunatly, ground combat godesses aren't on my side...

Just realised that i could be interpreted as desperate and unmotivated person - don't worry, i have few sneaky tricks in hand and will not give up just like that!

Invernomuto: just tried to do what you suggested but it isn't possible. Anyway, i upgraded two A6M2 groups at Palembang to A6M3 and in couple of days Daitai from Taiho (just downgraded at Palau) will joins them...

Nemrod: It seems that you got honesty sickness. You are right about intel but still, i'm going to try everything to hide my "wonder weapons". Anyway, i don't think that i can fool Andy - he have plenty of Jap opponent and in some games they even reach late 1943. So i think it is better to live him in doubts than open my cards....

As for Myitkyina - it could be my mistake, but i decide not to fight for that base - to close to numerous Allied AFs - and i think he got app 1000 bombers in India!

I have guite a lot troops in Burma, somewhere in my AAR i posted how many, but they are set for defensive and, as i said i don't like idea where few division can be more than decimated in just few days...

One more BAA division arrives as reinforcement in month, but i will send it to Kweiyang frontlines to gather experience first....

And, thank you for support - it is always encouraging to know that so many folks comes to pauk's corner...

PS...i have one suprise for you guys in the fall...

WhoCares: That's a brilliant idea! Right now i have Kaga going for R&R - she spent two weeks in SIngapore (2 naval HQs, 4 ARs) and only one sys repaired (from 8 to 7). I lost nerves and sent her to Shangai and after just one day on the sea she gained one more sys... so - Kaga air groups will serve on Taiho for some time! Thanks!

Now, combat reports. Including all reports just to see how interesting it is ..



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/14/43


Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 3
Ki-49 Helen x 12
Ki-46-III Dinah x 3

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 7

at 6000 feet

----------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 45
Ki-21 Sally x 23
Ki-49 Helen x 56

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 25

at 6000 feet


-----------------------------------------

Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 71
Ki-21 Sally x 80
Ki-48 Lily x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 48
Ki-46-II Dinah x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 136

at 6000 feet


Training from Legaspi - one part of Taiho torp bomber group will replace one Kate chutai (after downgrading of course)


Day Air attack on Iloilo , at 42,56

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 24

No Japanese losses

Port supply hits 1


Training missions from Cayagan.

Day Air attack on 108th USAAF Base Force, at 42,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 44
B5N Kate x 8


Training missions from Kwelin.

Day Air attack on 93rd Chinese Corps, at 43,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 48

Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported


Training missions from Changsha.

Day Air attack on 6th Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 46,34

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 59
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 44
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 12


Training missions from Wuhan.

Day Air attack on 6th Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 46,34

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 8
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 11

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported


Training missions from Palembang and Batavia. Taiho ac group will "hide" there.

Day Air attack on No. 101 RN Base Force, at 19,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 105
D3A Val x 9
A6M3a Zero x 9
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 61

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
26 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
2 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
26 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet


Training missions near Rabaul

Day Air attack on No. 101 RAAF Base Force, at 60,89

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 81
B5N Kate x 4
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 46
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36



Frontlines near Kweiyang.

Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4819 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3255

Defending force 101755 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2410

Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported


My division 60 miles east from Yunan.

Ground combat at 39,32

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1503 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Defending force 21296 troops, 188 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 434





< Message edited by pauk -- 7/18/2006 6:41:09 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to WhoCares)
Post #: 654
RE: dissapointment near Kweyiang - 7/19/2006 7:04:35 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/16/43

SOUTHWEST PACIFIC

Emily form Gili gili spoted BB Revenge at Brisbane. Naval search found a transport convoy heading west - to Australia.

Does it means that Andy will go to PM/Gili gili in the near future? Or, that's likely too, coordinated offensives on PNG and Marshalls?

Shokaku upgraded at Tokyo - sys damage 6
Zuikaku upgraded at Osaka - sys damage 6
Kongo on r&r at Hiroshima - sys damage 5

Taiho recived Kaga's airgroups and heads to Palau - Truk.






Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 7/19/2006 7:05:01 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 655
overview - holidays started - 7/21/2006 6:56:27 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/17/43

This is probably my last post for a while because i going on hollidays (Adriatic Coast). Last turn didn't offer anything worth to post so i will post my war industry status.

In China, i've ordered deliberate attack 60 miles west of Kweiyang. Troops are rested, well supplied and two more HQs arrived as support - now all units have support in green. Two commanders are replaced with more skilled ones, but i don't think that would change things a much... but lets see what gods of ground combat will decide....

Lots of, i would say, small and irrelevant info telling me that Andy would try something in the Pacific/PNG area. I will reinforce PM and send additional supply, if Andy allows me to do that....
My defensive situation in PNG is such that i can defend PM only with KB supported from Lae and Rabaul... but four carriers are currently in ports on r&r. Don't sure what to do - i do not like sending Shokaku and Zuikaku with 6 points damage (no i do not think that is too high but when i will get chance to send them to r&r again?) to Rabaul area but i don't think i can affort another missed chance for decisive battle....

well, i will think about it on sunny beaches with cold bear in my hands....


IMPERIAL HQ NEWS SHEET



Aircraft production - I have enough fighters in reserves and production of some types is decreased (to save engines). Despite of having 100 army bombers per month production i'm low on Sallys and Helens - but as long as my losses are mostly ops i wont expand their production... (NOTE: Hitachi engines are producing temperarely because i want have Hickory transport air group on the map - enough Tabbys waiting for upgrade)
engines - situation is more than pleasing - 5000 + Mitsubishi and Nakajima in stock and my reserves still growing.
ship reinforcements - after Taiho enters in service that relased quite a lot naval shipyard points and my subs progresing now fine.
manpower - if i only i could stop manpower....
heavy industry - 14 600 is enough to meet industry demands and i keep reserve of 140 K HI points. Don't need more (it is better to have big reserves of oil and resources than
HI points, IMO).
armament - slow but constant increase here.
supply - it seems that supply situation getting better after most of my industry is expanded. China is big consumer of the supply (i'm sending supply from SRA centers to China) but my stockpiles still increasing.
fuel - no complaints.
resources - good, the plan is to have 20 K production.
oil - more than enough production for industry demands (2 200 oil surplus daily) but i'm happy because my oil reserves are raising - i will need that oil in the future.






Attachment (1)

_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 656
holidays over... - 8/4/2006 5:19:02 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline


I'm back from the Adriatic Coast and ready to continue waiting...errr.. fight...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/18/43

CHINA

No reason for cheering here. Usual air terror over Chinese AFs keeping them closed but i'm losing quite a lot army bombers there (5-12, depends on circumstances).


Day Air attack on Kunming , at 39,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 43
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 30
Ki-49 Helen x 51
Ki-46-III Dinah x 4

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 71


One night fighter Sentai was on LR CAP but no enemy air lift has sighted to Kumning.

Day Air attack on Yunan , at 38,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 48
Ki-21 Sally x 48
Ki-49 Helen x 63
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 91

at 6000 feet


Yunan AF is closed down, same with Chungking.

Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 10
Ki-21 Sally x 73
Ki-48 Lily x 26
Ki-49 Helen x 29
Ki-46-II Dinah x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
358 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 85

at 7000 feet

---------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 115

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 7 damaged

Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 110

at 7000 feet



And another dissapointment from ground combat comes....When i compare that with last battle i can see that i had almost 250 AP more but got 100 Adjusted assault points less (687 to 769).

When comparing my last battle result near Kweiyang with first attack (first and last attack were deliberate, second was shock) i had 180 AP more but got only just 687 adjusted assault value (in the first attack i had 1345!).

Needless to say, my troops were rested with more than enough supply on hand. I bring couple of HQ more but they didn't helped at all....

Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 189427 troops, 2129 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 3535

Defending force 101349 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2413

Japanese max assault: 3489 - adjusted assault: 687

Allied max defense: 2322 - adjusted defense: 856

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
5332 casualties reported
Guns lost 171
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
541 casualties reported
Guns lost 1



Even the losses becomes nastier... now, what to do? My bombers refusing to attack Chinese units in that hex...phew!

NG/SW PACIFIC

My Bettys on naval search found 2 enemy ships and reported them as CA south of GIli gili. Enemy TF sailing NE and i hope that doesn't mean enemy invasion there because i can not resist to BritUS carrier fleet.

Measures already taken. SOme Betties moved to Lae, Air HQ loaded on transport (Lae) and several base forces (Lae, small bases near Gili gili). BFs will guard Wooldark, Ferguson etc from enemy paras because i learn from PzB AAR (and my own experience) that Andy likes great air-transportation-war in the Pacific. However, if he already decide to take these islands, it is to late for those measures. Lets hope he will wait for a month when my CVs arrives to Truk again from R&R....

_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 657
alert...Zmukler-go relased! - 8/5/2006 12:26:50 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/19/43

Imperial HQ recived situation report in PNG area from admiral Paukashawa (he is nephew of great general Pauk), Cic of that particular area. This could be only gathering forces for future offensive but Imperial HQ aprroved Zmukler-go, another propaganda warfare to fool Andy that we are alerted and well prepared for him....






CHINA


Pretty quiet. Bombardment near Kweiyang included to keep easier to follow Chinese and Japanese strentgh there...

Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4848 troops, 180 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3155

Defending force 100800 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2392


Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported





Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 8/5/2006 12:28:41 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 658
RE: alert...Zmukler-go relased! - 8/5/2006 2:58:17 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/20/43

So, that's it - this is not a drill! Zmukler go is turned from propaganda warfare plan to combat/evacuation plan: delay and inflict casaulties to the enemy.

Small strike was ordered against the enemy just to get idea about their strength:

Day Air attack on TF at 54,99

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
G4M1 Betty x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 damaged


Interstingly, i have to crack Emily Chutais at GG, but none of them spoted the enemy ever! Japan search planes sucks....






So, situation is critical: app 250 AP at Port Moresby and one division almost trapped at Gili gili. My foat transport version of Mavis refuses to pick up troops from GG: i don't know why (they dont need AF). Anyway, i was smart enough to expand AF to 81 % and then hold it. In turn or two i will have AF lvl 1 and able to evacuate as much troops as i can.

In addition, 15 subs sent to GG to help air bridge.

Well, we can be dissapointed with fact that Andy caught me off guard, but there is no need for crying: who knows if KB would be able to fight against BritUS CV TFs and CVE TF for close cover?

Its time for strengthening my main defensive line Lae-Rabaul-Lunga and prepare other bases (Admirality islands, Kaveing, Siador - they are currently building forts).

I'm not only planing fortyfing and evacuation - two zero daitais are moved to Truk (one of them is upgraded to Jack) and one Jack daitai. It is impossible to expect success against enemy mega TFs so we will act defensivly....


CHINA



Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4828 troops, 180 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2830

Defending force 100594 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2395

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported








Attachment (1)

< Message edited by pauk -- 8/5/2006 3:00:20 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 659
RE: alert...Zmukler-go relased! - 8/5/2006 5:11:45 PM   
pauk


Posts: 4162
Joined: 10/21/2001
From: Zagreb,Croatia
Status: offline


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/21/43

PNG


Andy preparing terrain for his soldiers. If only i knew that his planes would flew in such extravagant formations....

His fleet(s) will reach PM in day or two.


Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23
Swordfish x 9
TBF Avenger x 27
Avenger I x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged
Avenger I: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 8

---------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Port Moresby , at 53,91


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 69


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2



I ordered my air groups to LRCAP Port Moresby but i don't believe that i would caught him off guard. Not a best odds on my side - weather is thunderstorm....

CHINA

Regular air terror over Chinese cities.

It seems that Chinese near Kweiyang doesn't recived reinforcements - their number is lower turn by turn....

Ground combat at 40,35

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4794 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2868

Defending force 100548 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2389

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported




< Message edited by pauk -- 8/5/2006 5:13:48 PM >


_____________________________


(in reply to pauk)
Post #: 660
Page:   <<   < prev  20 21 [22] 23 24   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 >> After Action Reports >> RE: bad luck - i guess... Page: <<   < prev  20 21 [22] 23 24   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

4.938