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CTD - 7/18/2006 10:05:12 PM   
Ol_Dog


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Status: offline 		I have 6 copies of WITP on my computer and have not had any trouble 'till now.

I updated RHS from 4.04 to 4.05 to 4.06 today. In another directory, I also updated CHS 155 from 2.06 to 2.07 today. CHS 2.07 works fine.

RHS in 4.04 worked fine Saturday, but now in 4.06 on 12/7 there is no allied bombardment at Wake Is and no Japanese ground attack. After training ship crews, the program starts one or two more routines - then crashes to a black screen.

I have checked one other install - pry's 30 with subchaser's map - and it still works fine.

I have not changed video drivers, etc and the only WITP affected is RHS.

Anyone else have this problem?






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RE: CTD - 7/18/2006 10:33:43 PM   
Ol_Dog


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Status: offline 		I unzipped 4.04 back into RHS and it did not crash on the 1st turn.

I unzipped 4.05 back into RHS and it crashed like 4.06 did - on air replacement or merge subunits.


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RE: CTD - 7/18/2006 10:57:23 PM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		Test number 102 - RHSEOS v 4.06 - has run to December 24, 1941 without a hitch.

What scenario are you running?

Also, what TF bombards wake? Indeed, WHY would an ALLIED TF bombard Wake - it is an Allied base?

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RE: CTD - 7/19/2006 12:38:40 AM   
Ol_Dog


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Status: offline 		Scen 60 - Allied artillery bombardment of Japanese landing force and Japanese ground attack on defenders normally happen on 1st turn on Wake.

The crash has been consistent on 1st turn - after training ship crews, during air replacement or merge subunits.

4.04 worked last week; I updated 4.05 and 4.06 today before I tried to run a turn. After 4 tries with 4.06, I went back to 4.05 twice, then 4.04. When I unzipped the 4.04 scenario files back into the directory, 4.04 works again.

Then updated 4.05 again - crashed.




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RE: CTD - 7/19/2006 6:32:21 AM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		I will run a scenario 60 test starting now. I will report in five hours if the file set works. By then it will be many days in.


This sounds like bad files. If I confirm source works, I may upload again. I have some games running in other parts of the world - but the files were sent directly.


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RE: CTD - 7/19/2006 7:07:54 AM   
witpqs


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Status: offline 		I can't get scenario RHS EOS to load (the update emailed late yesterday or early today). After waiting at the scenario loading (wait) screen, it goes back to the scenatio selection screen with the mouse pointer still as an hourglass. Maybe it is a corrupted distribution.

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RE: CTD - 7/19/2006 11:32:33 AM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		I am able to CONFIRM a problem with scenario 60. It is a nice, solid problem - so I shall identify the file - and fix it - shortly.

I am NOT able to confirm a probem with scenario 65. I have it running in several places - although possibly it is not a good distribution.

I will test ALL RHS scenarios after I fix 60 - and redistribute as 4.061 -
Solid problems are easy to nail down.

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RE: CTD - 7/19/2006 1:19:22 PM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		I ran six tests of RHS files as actually uploaded (scenario 60 to 65) - not my working files (down in the 30 range). ONLY RHSEOS works. ALL crash near the end of the first game turn - as reported for scenario 60.
I now need to substitute files one at a time until I find the offending file - and then work from that file to create records at the 4.06 level.

Meanwhile,

RHS file set 4.04 works for all scenarios

and file set 4.06 works for RHSEOS.

I do not expect this to be difficult to track down - because it is solid. One possibility is that the 30 senarios work and the 60 scenarios don't - so it was invisible to my test games. Anyway - this sort of issue is suceptable to analysis by testing.

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RE: CTD - 7/19/2006 8:23:59 PM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		I have run file substitution tests with RHSEOS files - and failed to isolate the offending file. Many of the few files are common to all RHS scenarios - and most of the rest are almost identical. The big difference between most of them is the ship file and the air group file. But EOS has great differences in the location file - and I am surprised it wasn't the problem. My backup files - version 4.05 - also have the problem. If I can get a copy of RHSCVO 4.04 - I may be able to substitute test and isolate faster.

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RE: CTD - 7/20/2006 12:35:01 AM   
Ol_Dog


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Status: offline 		I still have 4.04 if you still need it. What address?


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RE: CTD - 7/20/2006 11:25:22 AM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		I got copies of RHSCVO 6.04 files - and confirmed they run fine.
Then I began substituting in RHSCVO 6.06 files, one at a time, and was able to duplicate the problem when the air group file was loaded.
The air group file is almost identical for the non-working files.
I will put in all the other files - and rebuild the air group file to 6.06 standard - and release each scenario - after testing it on a high speed test bed ( all delays set to 0.1 second = about 10 minutes for a game day) - one at a time - over the next few hours. I will call these files version 6.07 - but they are virtually the same as 6.06 - except
(a) they are known to work (not just load);
(b) there are a few enhansement to Allied supply sinks.

I will release RHSEOS now - but that is because it is simply a renamed 1.06 - it never did have a problem. RHSCVO will release as soon as I have rebuilt the air group file. That will permit simultaneous rebulding of RHSRAO. I need a different air group file for the others - so it will take a while longer for them.

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RE: CTD - 7/20/2006 8:28:00 PM   
el cid again

 

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Status: offline 		I have released after testing RHSCVO and its RAO counterpart. I then modified the air group file and successfully tested BBO - which I now have uploaded as well. In spite of the fact its RPO counterpart will certainly be fixed by the same file, I won't release it until it too passes a test. Then only PPO remains - it needs a slightly revised BBO air group file - and it may take until tomorrow to finish and test.

It is not clear why there was a problem in the file? But because the records in RHSEOS worked, I simply lifted them into the working 4.04 version of the air group file, and that was that. It must be a fatal corruption in one of these records - 5 Japanese HQ detachements and 10 new Soviet air units (5 medium bomber and 5 new naval air units - those not seaplanes or flying boats). This was a fairly small modification and I didn't think it warranted a case by case test: I was wrong.

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