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Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 3:17:55 PM   
Korpraali V


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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 4:32:39 PM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 7:00:02 PM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 8:33:59 PM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 9:00:19 PM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 9:03:22 PM   
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That pic looks familiar somehow Korpy...




I have no idea what are you talking about...


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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 9:45:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Korpraali V

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ORIGINAL: Alby

That pic looks familiar somehow Korpy...




I have no idea what are you talking about...


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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/21/2006 11:51:27 PM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 12:26:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, I believe that it is a russian DSHK 14.5 mm AA gun.

or for those of you who use imperial, .60 cal.

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 1:58:10 AM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 4:06:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, I was wrong, the DSHK is a .50 cal (12.7mm).
This is a KPV .60 Cal.

Yes, it was used as a dual role in the early stages of the 2nd world war, as both a AA and a AT unit. (also worked in the anti infantry role as well)

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 5:59:50 AM   
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- unknown 25mm AA-gun
- 12,7mm DShK AAMG
- 14,5mm KPV AAMG

Which one is it? Or is it something not mentioned yet?


The debate continues...




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Krec:

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 6:22:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Korpraali V

Alby: I'll set your pants on fire...

Krec:







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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 8:19:20 AM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 9:51:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I do not believe it is a 12.7, looks way to big. It could be the 14.5 I havent seen many pictures of them or any in real life. But I think it is bigger than that.

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 4:27:44 PM   
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Ok...



It is 12,7mm DShK MG with AA-tripod! Originally it was made for AA purposes, but widely used on other areas as well.

This picture you can find for example here:
http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/gu/dshk.shtml

More:
http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg03-e.htm


Congratulations Riun T!

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/22/2006 5:37:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		My godfather taught me as a proper saskatchewan redneck and said that the .50 is about as thick as an index finger, and eventhou theres a flashdisperser and muzzlebrake I think I can see by this pic that the gunners finger would fit into the bore!,,,, Don't think my finger shoots a 600 and some grain lump over 2800 fps  thou!!
Had enough of these poping at us while peacekeeping in Croatia, Canada uses a .50 m2 H-barrel on a toboggan in winter,and its hallarious to fire it without pinning it down because it will slide u back 3 feet for every 5 round burst!

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 1:42:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rats, I guess I should have gone with my first instinct, which was the DSHK. . .
I guess thats what I get for second guessing myself.

Mind you the KPV and the DSHK are very similar, just diferent bore size.

I found a pic that looks like that, but cannot figure out how to attach it.
(Also the reason that I thought KPV)


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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 6:00:15 AM   
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Rats, I guess I should have gone with my first instinct, which was the DSHK. . .
I guess thats what I get for second guessing myself.

Mind you the KPV and the DSHK are very similar, just diferent bore size.

I found a pic that looks like that, but cannot figure out how to attach it.
(Also the reason that I thought KPV)



Second quessings are the ones I was warned in school (Although sometimes they are right, too).

To attach a picture you must click "Post Replay" and then You'll see a separate box where to write. Just below the writing screen you'll see "Click to upload!" Click it and upload the picture. Then click "Embed picture in post" to make it shown immediately, as my pic was.

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 6:19:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks this was the pic that I was thinking of,
KPV in AA Role.

At least I hope it comes through. . .





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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 6:36:09 AM   
Riun T

 

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 6:50:10 PM   
Korpraali V


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Status: offline 		Very nice pic Nighthawk! Thanks!

It looks almost like DShK. Same producer? Or a copy perhaps?


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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 10:07:36 PM   
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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 10:16:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alby

how come you Finns spell Guess with a 'Q'




How come you Americans miss out three letters from 'through'?

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 10:20:28 PM   
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because we are lazy, spoiled Americanos



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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/23/2006 11:34:35 PM   
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quicker to just type 'thru'
because we are lazy, spoiled Americanos




A perfectly fair answer

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/24/2006 1:59:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ruin, the KPV was designed to be fired with the wheels down.
It was designed mid war, as a infantry anti tank machine gun.

Korpraali, I am not sure if it was the same manufacturer, but you can
see why I had initially changed my thoughts from the DSHK to the KPV.

There are very slight differences between the two.

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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/24/2006 6:02:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Alby

how come you Finns spell Guess with a 'Q'




Others too, not just me?

Mixing with Quiz, I think...


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ORIGINAL: Nighthawk12

Korpraali, I am not sure if it was the same manufacturer, but you can see why I had initially changed my thoughts from the DSHK to the KPV.

There are very slight differences between the two.


Yes, they are very similar. It can well be seen. I'll give you easier point in next Guess


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RE: Quess the pic #3 - 8/24/2006 6:10:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, I really don't need the easier point, as you can see from one of my earlier posts, if I am in error, I will correct myself.

IE, the mistake between the DSHK, DSHuK, Both 12.7, one semi auto, one auto, and the KPV 14.5.
I had originally classed the DSHK as 14.5, but corrected myself a couple of posts down.

Besides, I don't mind being proven wrong, (I found that pic of the DSHK as well.)

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