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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/6/2006 11:43:16 PM   
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Unfortunately I find no hold in the Air HQ base rule either. Even bases with Air HQs and 19k supplies
refuse to provide replacement ac. In the Palaus Yap got 19500 supplies and Palau got an Air HQ with a range of 5 hexes.
Have to move more supplies in to reinforce my air units.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/23/44

Air Combat

Several strange things happened today: Firstly our old bug were kamikaze ac
joins a ground strike and kills themselves... 15 Zekes, Grace and Jill on kami missions
joined a ground strike on Pamakasan and killed themselves.

Joe, this bug you must fix. Will send you a mail if you don't read this.

Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 22
N1K1-J George x 13
B6N Jill x 7
B7A Grace x 8
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses - vely funny
A6M5 Zeke: 19 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
B6N Jill: 7 destroyed
B7A Grace: 8 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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First combat missions for the Peggy bomber: 1 got damaged by a Hellcat.

Day Air attack on 4th USMC Para Battalion, at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 16
G4M2 Betty x 20
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 18
Ki-67 Peggy x 15

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
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This is the kind of attacks I like: 16 Grace from the West of Timor hits an enemy fast transport TF!

Day Air attack on TF at 33,76

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Arunta
DD Stockham
APD Gregory, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD Rathburne
APD Clemson, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Ground Combat

Nice little morale victory today! We recaptured Pamakasan and captured 500 US
Marine paras! Even though Andy is trying to draw out my reserves, I'm still in favor
of the immediate counter-attack doctrine. Hit back before the enemy can re-group and
prepare solid defenses.

Ground combat at Macassar

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30198 troops, 215 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 652

Defending force 3077 troops, 2 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Allied max assault: 578 - adjusted assault: 290

Japanese max defense: 29 - adjusted defense: 15

Allied assault odds: 19 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
303 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Pamakasan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1501 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 360 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese max assault: 52 - adjusted assault: 88

Allied max defense: 14 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pamakasan base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
534 casualties reported
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Macassar

Enemy Carriers in the Java Sea

Bad weather covered Soerabaja/Pamakasan and the enemy carrier TF today. Perfect timing
for once. Instead of sacrificing my naval bombers I spread them out, disband TFs and order
all other ships to move away. Soerabaja got 120 fighters, Palembang 200. Let Andy grit his
teeth on our defenses if he wish to.




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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/6/2006 11:58:44 PM   
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Hi John,

Maybe you misunderstood what I mean:

I believe if an Air unit is in range of the BASE HQ then it will receive replacements. For example if a base is assigned to China Exp Force and the air units are in range of China Exp. Force Base HQ then they will receive replacements.

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:08:19 AM   
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I have a area HQ, Southern Area Army, and a base which is inside its command radius, but under 20k Supplies and i could only draw some pilots.

I was wrong on Tarawa i have over 20k supplies there, until Robs bombers hit it anyway..

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:08:53 AM   
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Hm, the strange thing is that I have seen air units loose and obtain their ability to receive replacements
in the same bases with the same HQs for a long time - and I've not moved their Base HQs. Thinking of China here, very
static stand off.

In this game ALL air units in bases with less than 20k supplies can currently not receive replacements. Don't think
this should be the case as I have concentrated my Base HQs in tight defensive boxes by now. Southern Area Army
has a range of 8 hexes!


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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:25:03 AM   
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I agree with you. Unless a base has 20k supply, an air unit can't receive replacement aircraft. I'm at a low point in China and no base has 20k supply. I can't get any replacement aircraft anywhere in China.

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:32:20 AM   
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Hm i thought it was somthing i was doing wrong, seems its a new feature. I Kept on asking myself whether it was that i needed 3x or 4x the amount of the supply, this is ridiculous to expect the Japanese player keep 20k supplies in every base with a squadron or so of planes.

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:37:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Manual, 15.2

Air units will automatically gain replacements under certain circumstances if aircraft our available
in the replacement pool and the air unit has been set to Accept Replacements. To get
replacement aircraft to flow automatically into an air unit, there must be planes in the pool and
one of the following cases must be true (the first true will take effect):
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  • The air unit is located at a base and the base has over 20000 supplies. Supplies will be
    expended at the base and the unit will receive damaged planes from the pool (they may
    repair before the next orders phase during the repair phase).
  • The air unit is located at a base and the HQ that the base is assigned to is within transfer
    range of the air unit’s aircraft type and the HQ is located at a base that has over 20000
    supplies. Supplies will be expended at the HQ’s base and the unit will receive damaged
    planes from the pool.


Maybe this helps.

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:46:16 AM   
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Hmm, never remember it being like that, ive always remembered it being somthing along the lines of having to have 3x or 4x the required supplies.

Meh.....

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:49:44 AM   
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That's how I thought it should be VSWG. It's just a bit strange that Ulithi with more than 20k supplies
and the Southern Area HQ can't provide replacements for my air groups at Yap with 19.5 supplies. Have to double
check next turn.

The problem isn't so much supplies as the inability to MOVE supplies into a base.

As I believed he would, Andy moved his carrier TF north into the Java Sea.
I counter by placing 48 Zeke FBs on kami attack in a nearby base. Any further incursion will be met by a
heavy CAP and suicide attacks!!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/24/44

Invasions

TF 1036 troops unloading over beach at Wotje, 82,79

Allied ground losses:
620 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Andy hit oil facilities at Tarakan...not sure why: I would never move my tankers
that close to Balikpapan!

Day Air attack on Tarakan , at 33,61

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 139

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed

Oil hits 27
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We finish the second APD that was hit yesterday...

Day Air attack on TF at 34,78

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
APD Gregory, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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CVEs in the area....

Day Air attack on TF at 32,75

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
FM-2 Wildcat x 70

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
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Leaky CAP cost us 13 Oscars... Andy moves his carrier TF to the middle of Batavia and Palembang.
Hi finds an empty cargo TF that didn't reach Palembang.

Day Air attack on TF at 21,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 13

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 27
F4U-1D Corsair x 27
SB2C Helldiver x 38
TBM Avenger x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Yamaoka Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.22, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ch 17
AK Sanju Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Sansho Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Oyashima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 21,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 10
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 22

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed
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Ground Combat

Andy finally invades Wotje! The place has had no supply for a year and I'm tired of it being bombed....
Perhaps its fall will release my 9 pilots trapped there with its damaged ac fragment

Ground combat at Macassar

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30107 troops, 213 guns, 216 vehicles, Assault Value = 716

Defending force 557 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Allied max assault: 593 - adjusted assault: 309

Japanese max defense: 12 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 309 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
77 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
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Looks like Banjarmasin is next! With 3-4 forts it won't hold for long.

Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31781 troops, 383 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 964

Defending force 24386 troops, 175 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 385

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Wotje's 9 forts delays its fall for a day!

Ground combat at Wotje

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4513 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 305

Defending force 4220 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 65

Allied max assault: 302 - adjusted assault: 21

Japanese max defense: 32 - adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Macassar


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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 12:53:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

That's how I thought it should be VSWG. It's just a bit strange that Ulithi with more than 20k supplies
and the Southern Area HQ can't provide replacements for my air groups at Yap with 19.5 supplies. Have to double
check next turn.

I think Yap is assigned to Southeast Fleet, not Southern Area HQ. You might want to check that.

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/7/2006 10:55:01 PM   
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I have moved more interceptors to Singapore. A battlegroup with 2 battleships,
3 heavy, 2 light and 6 destroyers is based there.

Our carriers are repairing slowly, Taiho at 9 and the other 3 fleet cvs at 23-34
sys damage. Not sure what I will use it for: keep it as a strategic reserve and try
to keep Andy on his toes most likely. Don't want to loose my remaning bird farms unless
I have to. Updated one of the cvls and she now got 862 AA rating. Not bad!

240 Oscar IIs are in the pools again and in 5 days most of my disbandoned Sentais will
return. Then we got our cannon fodder in place.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/25/44

Invasions

That Wotje held out one day extra caused the Allies another 1500 casualties!

TF 1036 troops unloading over beach at Wotje, 82,79

Allied ground losses:
588 casualties reported
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TF 1036 troops unloading over beach at Wotje, 82,79

Allied ground losses:
449 casualties reported
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Air Combat

A few ground attacks on Banjarmasan met a LRCAP of P38s!

Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 13

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 13

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
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This slightly bigger strike was intercepted!

Day Air attack on 40th USA Division, at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 27
G4M2 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
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Another nice strike from Timor: a loaded destroyer in a FT TF got hit! Nice...
Day Air attack on TF at 31,70

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Richard Leary
DD Ross
DD Lardner, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

Our remnants at Banjarmasin can't stand up to a full Allied assault for long!
Southern Borneo with the exception of Tarakan will soon be on Allied hands. Still, these
battles will wear down more enemy troops and buy us time.

Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 45164 troops, 458 guns, 547 vehicles, Assault Value = 1281

Defending force 23042 troops, 151 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 359

Allied max assault: 1284 - adjusted assault: 1118

Japanese max defense: 289 - adjusted defense: 437

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Japanese ground losses:
405 casualties reported
Guns lost 14

Allied ground losses:
739 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 7
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Ground combat at Wotje

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 12375 troops, 106 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 312

Defending force 3511 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 52

Allied max assault: 402 - adjusted assault: 346

Japanese max defense: 26 - adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 173 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Wotje base !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed - finally, the Jill fragment is destroyed and released 11 crack pilots

Japanese ground losses:
854 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
306 casualties reported
Guns lost 18
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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/8/2006 12:13:16 AM   
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For those interested in scores: Allies almost got 50k, Japan 70k.
This will most likely even out by the end of the war. Neither side got
any chance of achieving a 2-1 decisive victory...unless I'm completely mistaken

Will be interesting to see how far Andy can - and is willing to - push things by end 1945.
In one year the USSR will join the fight and everything will end in one violent crescendo!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/26/44

My annoyance raids by sub laying mines is really paying dividends:

TF 1011 encounters mine field at Macassar (30,69)

Allied Ships
DD Wadsworth
DD Nicholas
DD Richard Leary
DD Wilkes
DD Welles
DD Wilkes
DD Yarnall
DD Abner Read
DD Picking
DD Hailey
DD Converse
DD McCall, Mine hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
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TF 1049 encounters mine field at Macassar (30,69)

Allied Ships
DD McNair
DD Knapp
DD Jenkins
DD Fullam
DD Evans
DD Heywood Edwards
DD Daly
APD Manley, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Todays little FUBAR, forgot to stand down these Bettys:

Day Air attack on 7th USA Division, at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 19

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 14
P-38J Lightning x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged
P-38J Lightning: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
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My torpedo bombers launch 2 last strikes before being withdrawn to receive reinforcement
ac. Still got 15/16 pilots, but morale is very low.

Day Air attack on TF at 32,71

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Johnston

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,70

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 3
Kittyhawk III x 3
P-40N Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,70

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Cogswell

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B7A Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

Banjarmasin falls - a TF of barges lifts out elements of a Bde. Will head for Java.
This is a size 3(3) AF which will give Andy a size 6 field for his Supers within 2 months.
They will be able to flatten Palembang and reach Singapore. Will place a strong force of interceptors
in both bases and defend them for as long as possible!

Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 57224 troops, 580 guns, 544 vehicles, Assault Value = 1573

Defending force 21266 troops, 109 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 324

Allied max assault: 1796 - adjusted assault: 1261

Japanese max defense: 250 - adjusted defense: 127

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Banjarmasin base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
1482 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Allied ground losses:
566 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 3
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Ground combat at Wotje

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14594 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 286

Defending force 2352 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Allied max assault: 614 - adjusted assault: 561

Japanese max defense: 14 - adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 280 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
2002 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
240 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/8/2006 12:35:48 AM   
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the score seems pretty close considering your previous success and the fact that it seems the allies havn't really taken much back (i don't own WitP so i don't know how the allies usually look at this juncture)

any idea what it would be if you didn't have the brit asian holdings?

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/8/2006 12:40:33 AM   
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You can only imagine how many points the Allies earn from the turkey shoots of 43-44....
The loss of so many carriers also cost a lot of points. I would guess that some 10k points would swap hands
if I didn't hold all of India. Then the score would have been even by now.

All in all I don't think the standing is bad, especially since I've not captured all of China.
I don't pay much attention to the score, if I had I would have been much more reluctant in regards to sending
my ac into combat

Allies also win a lot of points from strategic bombing, fortunately we haven't seen much of that - yet!


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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/8/2006 1:00:17 AM   
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More testing of the ac/pilot replacement issue:
I was able to provide replacements for a Zeke unit at Wake Island with 10k supplies.
Wake got an Air HQ attached to the Burma Area Army and the Zeke Daitai belongs to the Southern Area.
Still not possible to provide supplies to air units at Clark with 19500 supplies even though Manila holds a Southern Area Air HQ and got 40k supplies.

Just can't figure this out


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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/8/2006 1:39:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB

More testing of the ac/pilot replacement issue:
I was able to provide replacements for a Zeke unit at Wake Island with 10k supplies.
Wake got an Air HQ attached to the Burma Area Army and the Zeke Daitai belongs to the Southern Area.
Still not possible to provide supplies to air units at Clark with 19500 supplies even though Manila holds a Southern Area Air HQ and got 40k supplies.

Just can't figure this out

Forget the Air HQs, they don't matter at all! What counts is the Command HQ the BASE is assigned to - not the squadron. 20.000 supplies must be either at the Command HQ's base, or at the base you want to draw replacements itself.

Locate the Command HQ to which Wake is assigned. It should be within transfer range, and have more than 20.000 supplies. Either that, or I'm completely lost myself.

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/8/2006 1:53:24 AM   
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PzB, your score is still good. To win at the historical date, Andy will have to score 100 000 points in one year. Allied is brutal in 1945 but probably can't score so much (if anything else, by lack of targets).

So you may be the first Japanese player to last after August 1945 in an PBEM (at least in an AAR). Or the first player to lose Tokyo (same conditions).

By the way I still think that Andy did a mistake by not landing back in India as soon had he had CV superiority. Liberating the British Army from its warp prison under Karachi or Bombay should have been one of its top objective.

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RE: Macassar falls! - 9/8/2006 2:07:12 AM   
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Where is nearest base with 20k supplies?

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150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/8/2006 6:34:02 PM   
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150000 hits and an average of 47 views pr posts, that's still amazing!
Thx for reading guys Next milestone: 200k

Yes, I don't worry about the score, Andy needs to invade - and capture - the Home Islands to win on KO.
India was heavily, heavily defended 6 months ago. Only since then I've evacuated divisions from there as the
danger of invasion passed - according to my understanding of the strategic situation that is!

Closest base with 20k supplies to Wake? Must be....the Marianas - and that's more than 20 hexes away, right!?

I am moving my ships and ac out from Soerabaja, with enemy LBA as nearest neighbour there's no use hangin'
around Batavia, Palembang, Northern Borneo is the next line. Java is relatively lightly defended.
A lot of size 9 forts will make an invasion expensive. Mostly I want to prevent Soerabaja from falling into Allied
hands. 250 fighters at Palembang and Singapore now.

Still no signs of enemy Mustangs, even though I know they are available.
Andy may be saving them...or he may not have any units that can be upgraded
Does anyone know when the first P51 equipped squadrons arrive and what their escort/sweep range is?
Got a feeling that if the Corsair was bad, the Mustang will be the Gross Gotterdammerung....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/27/44

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Another sub laid mine finds its mark...
TF 1060 encounters mine field at Banjarmasin (27,64)

Allied Ships
DD Craven, Mine hits 1
DD Hobby
DD Gillespie
DD Nicholson
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Air Combat

Think this was a Kamikaze strike by Zekes escorted by Zekes...and all the Kamis were shot down!?
1 day after the fall of Banjarmasin falls and there are some 450 ac there. Should be SEVERE penalties
for basing so many ac there with 85 runway and service damage. Still, 58 P38s on CAP!

Day Air attack on TF, near Banjarmasin at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 16

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 58

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Banjarmasin at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 56380 troops, 556 guns, 541 vehicles, Assault Value = 1507

Defending force 17180 troops, 61 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 251

Allied max assault: 1682 - adjusted assault: 1569

Japanese max defense: 182 - adjusted defense: 115

Allied assault odds: 13 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
2382 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses: - Andy is in a hurry and his units are taking a beating!
699 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 3
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Ground combat at Wotje- the starved remnants at Wotje are destroyed!

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 15040 troops, 174 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 262

Defending force 880 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied max assault: 504 - adjusted assault: 394

Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 394 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
2587 casualties reported
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RE: 150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/8/2006 6:57:23 PM   
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I don't know what the range is on the B, but I've been facing the P-51D for a couple of months now and it's a terror!

Swats my Franks and Georges out of the sky - I was saving the night fighters with heavy guns for B-29s but never get a chance to intercept freely.

Of course, I've lost Iwo (Mariannas still held by Japan) - so it's open season on the Home Islands.

12/44 and score is 71K to 56K - the Empire is still on top, but it's looking pretty bleak...

(edit) - Mine's a PDU game, so Andy may be waiting for the groups to activate. No such luck for me

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RE: 150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/8/2006 7:22:12 PM   
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I can imagine...
Invading the Bonin Islands without taking the Marianas first is quite far fetched.
Realistically it would have been impractical to say the least.

I'm hesistant at basing more than 20-30k troops on an atoll, the issue is that nothing prevents
your opponent from landing a full Army Group with 150k troops there. Kinda difficult with house rules, so both
sides have to show some common sense me thinks.

If I didn't care about restricting my game play to achieve a more historical game, 50k troops would be placed on Bonin and Iwo Jima and that
would be it

Formosa or Okinawa's would be a more suitable target, but still a bit far fetched if the Marianas and/or Luzon wasn't captured first.
That's the approach I will follow in my Allied pbem games. It should be possible to impose a game restriction that caused massive casualties to
the defender/attacker on atolls if the number of troops exceeded a certain number. This would force the attacker to land in waves and evacuate
his smashed units before landing new ones.

Have to check the range of the P54D, it's probably 12-14 hexes.




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RE: 150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/8/2006 7:30:17 PM   
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True enough - but you know as well as I do that if (and when) the Allies send a carrier TF to escort transports, it becomes a no-fly zone. Period.

So, the Allies can pack up as much as they want and send it where ever they wish.

Deep penetration invasions of 3-6 Divisions are quite simple for the Allies.

Not realistic - but the Allied CAP simply cannot be penetrated in the stock game.

Of course, I'm preaching to the choir here

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RE: 150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/8/2006 7:30:46 PM   
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P51D got a normal range of 555 miles (9 hexes) and an extended range of 740 miles (12 hexes).
It's a dangerous toy, but there are only a few units scheduled to arrive late in the war!
So perhaps the menace won't be complete. Gawd knows I don't need it


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RE: 150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/8/2006 7:33:21 PM   
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So you haven't tried out the 'high altitude' Kamikazes to counter the Uber CAP and deep strikes?


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Yes, but like you I limit its use and only use untrained pilots. And always in conjunction with a real strike (it doesn't seem fair to have a completely unopposed strike, but then I'm getting the crap mined out of me and there's nothing I can do about that.

The few hits I've gotten do no real damage to speak of with Zekes (Betties and Helens are another matter ). But, Zekes are completely useless in any other roll. I hate them...

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I do leave some Zekes on kami mission in Northern Borneo in case Andy sends his carriers on a deep strike.
Would only be logical that he should run some risks!

Have you managed to assemble major aviation units in Japan? I'm still quite low actually.
Mines ain't Andy's cup of tea - poor mans toys

Upgrading my surface fleet for the last big show, hopefully all ships will be strutting with guns and zilch
sys damage by end of 44.


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RE: 150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/9/2006 12:24:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PzB
It should be possible to impose a game restriction that caused massive casualties to
the defender/attacker on atolls if the number of troops exceeded a certain number. This would force the attacker to land in waves and evacuate
his smashed units before landing new ones.



... this is the best idea for atolls stacking/overstacking so far!





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RE: 150k hits - Thx guys! :-) - 9/9/2006 1:13:21 AM   
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Thx Pauk, actually liked that idea myself

I'm considering to let the Yamatos undertake their 6/44 upgrades. Will probably
boost their AA armament from 640 to ca 1000 and upgrade their radars.

Quite incredible: We haven't lost a single of the large Akatsuki class fleet destroyers yet!
They are actually small CLAAs with a AA rating of 402!

A new Bde arrived in the Home Islands, it has been slated for Iwo Jima as my little talk with
Blurking made me a bit anxious. Bonin is well defended, but Iwo got place for another LCU. This
will take the number of defendes up from 18500 to some 25000 men.

The 1st Armoured Division in Davao has now been slated for Formosa. It will be replaced by units
withdrawn from Morotai and bases in Northern Guinea. A full Panzer Div on Luzon and Formosa makes
sense to me. Should also send a couple of tank regiments to the Home Islands. Andy is fielding a lot
of tanks in his latest assaults. A tank regiment has already been sent to Malaya.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/28/44

Air Combat

I like these small strikes from Truk!

Day Air attack on TF at 61,83

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK David Belasco, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DE Levy
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 55502 troops, 528 guns, 540 vehicles, Assault Value = 1443

Defending force 13744 troops, 47 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 203

Allied max assault: 1520 - adjusted assault: 1272

Japanese max defense: 144 - adjusted defense: 45

Allied assault odds: 28 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
3191 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
195 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/29/44

Air Combat

Wasn't there supposed to be a routine that prevented unescorted bombers from committing
suicide without being on a kamikaze mission

Day Air attack on TF at 34,80

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 11
G4M2 Betty x 20

Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 8
F6F Hellcat x 75
F4U-1D Corsair x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 3 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 17 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 8 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 damaged
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 55277 troops, 511 guns, 539 vehicles, Assault Value = 1450

Defending force 11800 troops, 27 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 166

Allied max assault: 1658 - adjusted assault: 1029

Japanese max defense: 120 - adjusted defense: 53

Allied assault odds: 19 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1889 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 3
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Air HQs

More strangeness: Look at this screenshot!
The 23rd and 24th Air Flotillas, both attached to the Soutern Area Army. Range: 1 hex.
The 24th was based on Clark Field with 19k supplies, and the 24th in Manila with 50k supplies.

Only my air groups in Manila were allowed to draw replacement ac/pilots.
I got tired of this and moved the 24th Air Flotilla to Clark Field - and voila - all air units can
again draw ac/pilot replacements.

I think these findings indicate that Joe & Co may have to take a closer look at how Air HQ actually influences
air/pilots replacements in bases with more and less than 20k supplies. It certainly makes very little sense to me!




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I just ran a quick test in my own game.

I had a squadron of Mohawks at Lahaina (7.000 supplies). Both the unit and the base were assigned to CentPac (at Pearl Harbor), and I could draw reinforcements. I changed Lahaina to West Coast HQ, and immediately thereafter I could not draw reinforcements anymore. Then I moved a squadron of A-29s to Lahaina, which have a transfer range of 46 in CHS. Because San Francisco (with the West Coast HQ) is 44 hexes away from Lahaina, I was able to draw reinforcements!

So I still think the manual is (for once) correct: it's not the Air HQ that matters, but the HQ the BASE is assigned to. If this HQ is within transfer range and has more than 20.000 supplies, then you can draw replacement in bases with less than 20.000 supplies.

I can only guess that by moving another HQ unit to Clark, the base increased its supply level beyond 20.000.


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I swear I said that before?

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