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Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 10/31/2006 3:21:34 PM   
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I'm back, Raver is still as cocky as ever, and WITP is a very different game to the one we started while still beta testing.

Raver is still too chicken to try being the red team, so I'll assume the burden, and he'll take his slapping for the first 18 months of the war before he gets to do any (when he does, he'll do the usual frightened Allied player tactic of sailing around with the Uber Death Star). Once again I will spread the peace and love of the IJ Empire across the Pacific, using group hugs, high fives, pats on the back, thoughtful counselling and Haiku. My officers will spend a lot of time talking about their emotions, and about their favourite colours (the colour discussion will be short - their favourite colour is the same as mine or they'll face the firing squad - red).

I also hope to activate the top secret easter egg code that got implemented during the top secret Gamma testing. That's right - assign the right leaders to each unit on the OOB in ascending order of their height - and fight like this for 2 years - and Japan gets 10 free nukes and a pair of Stealth Bombers in '44.

House Rules:
1. Jap player gets a free punch on turn 1 - complete surprise all throughout the theatre. Raver gets to move his CVs, order his Chinese armies around, that is it for turn 1. He gets to give orders turn 2.
2. I will not port attack anywhere except PH on turn 1. After that, if there is anybody dumb enough to be parked at Manila or Singapore, I'm squashing them. Don't care how realistic or not this might be.
3. No 4 engined bombers under 6000ft. Not that Raver ever does this anyway.
4. If I intend to attack Russia, i need to pre-activate them 2 weeks prior.
5. PDU is on, and we won't restrict it. Neither of us will abuse it to the point of being gamey, but is too useful to do without.


I'm still building the first turn (taking a very long time - I'm going to make this one perfect - production wise as well as combat wise) but I thought I'd start the AAR off with a few general thoughts and ideas on how I'm going to proceed. I'll start with strategic stuff, so as not to give away my top secret plan (we're going to declare war on the US on December 7th!!!!).

Production:
Using a different strategy this time - economise rather than expand.
In other games I've grown the economy to a monster that is never satisfied, never running at 100% and never providing everything I need. This time around I'm halting a lot of aircraft production to take advantage of auto factory upgrades - I'm halting a lot of aircraft production just because I don't seem myself using those aircraft types very much at all. I will restart them if I need them.

I am expanding smaller factories (anything under 10 gets expanded to 10) which will give me a marginal boost to my total economy, but a massive boost to its efficiency (smaller factories work more often due to availablility of smaller amounts of HI points etc.

I am setting up massive training facilities for the pilots of the aircraft types I'm not going to use very much of (those Nate pilots are going to be dangerous if they ever get into an Oscar down the line).

Engines is pretty straight forward - we all do the same here.

Direction:
I'm loving Pzb's crazy Indian invasion, and I've often wanted to do something just like it - but large scale insanity is Raver's forte. I'm hoping to expand the SRA a bit further than is traditional, say, but I don't intend to invade India en masse. December will be about Shock and Awe. Shock is at how rude this AAR will probably get when I spank Raver across the SRA, and Awe will be the part where you see Raver on the news theatening to throw himself off . . . well off some tall building in Melbourne (I'm assuming they've managed to build some tall ones) because I'm not playing nice.


On turn 1, I intend to invade the following bases:



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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 10/31/2006 3:31:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Luskan
Raver is still too chicken to try being the red team, so I'll assume the burden, and he'll take his slapping for the first 18 months of the war before he gets to do any (when he does, he'll do the usual frightened Allied player tactic of sailing around with the Uber Death Star). Once again I will spread the peace and love of the IJ Empire across the Pacific, using group hugs, high fives, pats on the back, thoughtful counselling and Haiku. My officers will spend a lot of time talking about their emotions, and about their favourite colours (the colour discussion will be short - their favourite colour is the same as mine or they'll face the firing squad - red).



... you really make my day!

Serioulsly... good luck! (to both of you - as far as i know Raver just lost CV battle in the Indian ocean in his second game).... is this a joint AAR? (personally i hope it is - the both of you guys are perfectly suited (lying, "cheating", "insulting")....etc for that type of AAR!

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 10/31/2006 3:35:58 PM   
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there is AA gap - negotiate 10k feet for level bombing

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 10/31/2006 5:17:54 PM   
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are you playing stock?

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 10/31/2006 5:56:57 PM   
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Good luck both of you guys. Should be fun to watch

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 10/31/2006 10:27:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Luskan

I'm back, Raver is still as cocky as ever,

House Rules:
1. Jap player gets a free punch on turn 1 - complete surprise all throughout the theatre. Raver gets to move his CVs, order his Chinese armies around, that is it for turn 1. He gets to give orders turn 2.



Quite right about Raver's attitude -- and it doesn't seem to be supported by actual AAR victories.

Hmmm. Why shouldn't the Brits get to issue orders on the first turn? British intelligence was aware of the sailing of the troop convoys headed for Malaya.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 10/31/2006 10:37:17 PM   
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Banana boyeeeeeeeeeeee...

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 2:24:21 AM   
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Ah, ok, will flick Raver email for 10k house rule thing.  He probably won't mind as it probably won't make a difference to him.

In one UV game he was sending his 4 Engines in at 30k because my fighters couldn't get that high and neither could my flak.  He continued this for months - essentially milk run training for his pilots.  My worst allied LBA nightmare would be some cowboy taking my B17s in at 1000ft over a nest of flak guns. 

We are playing stock - since I wasn't aware there were alternatives?

Capt Harlock - In hindsight every one of the allies knew they were getting declared on, but the surprise factor was still there on December 7th, so China and the US CVs only.

With less experienced opponents, they will pack the west coast transports full of supply, fuel and troops on turn 1 and send them at full speed westward across the map to guard the US-Oz supply line (places like Pearl, Canton Is, Palmyra & Suva etc).  The experienced Jap player is always ready and waiting right on "time" for those predicable moves to show up.  They almost always work against newbs, but Raver has NEVER made that mistake.  He has been known to leave those transports on the west coast until turn 5 when he gets some extra planes etc. etc, or send them in smaller convoys, rather than the uber supply convoy thing.

Raver will post in this thread but at the moment he is visiting our nation's capitol (he didn't say why - could be he got carried away with the whole coast guard thing and sank a ship full of Kiwi refugee immegrants making for Bondi or Manly - court martial or commendation?).

Surely someone has an AAR where they've bombed NZ??



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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 3:55:31 AM   
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You really should use Nik's mod. It is far superior to stock. But beware the evil changes he made to things. Allied flak is brutal............even at game start.

BTW......good to see you back and at it.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 7:38:23 AM   
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Too late, I've spent far too much time on this turn 1 to do it again.  This time, it is perfect.  OR ELSE!

I have been too careful, too meticulous to have anything go wrong on turn 1/2.  The whole point of the house rules about turn 1 (Raver enters no orders except to his CVs and maybe china, I promise not to port attack anything except PH) is to give the Jap player total utter and absolute surprise.  I will be annoyed and irritated if my staff and field officers don't take absolute full advantage as aggressively as possible.

This turn 1 should be the aggressive opening turn that all other "razzle dazzle" Jap players measure themselves by.  I've planned every operation out several turns in advance, I have a spreadsheet of all my invasions, the forces involved, the times they should arrive, the makeup of those all important invasion forces, and which of those invaded bases will become my airfield Hubs in the SRA.

I've exploited every single bit of info I already know about the game, Raver's starting OOB, my starting OOB, everything.  Douglas Raver Arthuer-MacArthur (yes, that is a Hey Dad! joke.  Showing my age) won't know what hit him.  Anybody out there planning to take on Raver - learn this if nothing else: don't give that wiley bastard an inch.  Any missed opportunity will hurt in the long run

So, I've fired off the perfect turn 1, Raver will get it when he gets back from his audience with the PM and he'll move his CVs (because I know where they start!  - I can't help it) and away we go.  There is always that urge to forget PH and go for his CVs . . . They're seperate, weak, and going to end up heading South or West to evade me (sometimes north too - never east).  That is a tiny bit on the gamey side - I don't mind sending my surface forces out to slam Raver's turn 1 ships where I know they are (e.g. Bunch of AKs in port at naga asking to be hit, Houston is at Cebu or somewhere like that etc. etc.). 

It is possible that Jap intelligence would even extend to letting my staff figure out where Raver's existing TFs in confined waters are - informants etc. etc.  But apart from knowing that the CVs aren't at Pearl, it just isn't plausible that I could know where to find them lost in the Pacific as they were.

Allied CVs on turn 1 = off limits.  Everything else is completely fair game.

I have divided my opening move up into 3 seperate (but not seperate) operations.

1. Operation Aspiration.
This is basically a land grab.  I intend to take everything within reach on turn 1 as fast as possible.  Since Raver isn't entering any orders on turn 1 (and he's seen my opening move a few times now!) I'm happy to post the details uncensored.

Invasion points in the SRA (some of which will become Air Hubs) include (but are not limited to!):
Brunei,
Miri,
Jesselton,
Tay Tay,
Jolo,
Menado,
Puerto Princessa,
Legaspi,
Khota Bharu,
Tarakan,
Sandakan,
Kuching,
Zamboanga,
Lamon Bay,
Kendari,
Aparri,
Vigan,
Laong,
San Jose,
Roxas,
Bataan Is.,
Ormoc,
Cagayan,
Davao,

Cagayan, Legaspi, Davao and Kendari are the obvious moves - controlling the SRA airspace by Turn 3 is the plan.  Taking Lamon bay has obvious advantages, and Miri and Brunei are also pretty obvious choices for the Jap invader.  I expect this part of the turn to go flawlessly.

Operation Expectation
Smashing Pearl Harbour with my patented Pearl combination of airstrikes to get the most from by free punch at Raver's BBs. 
The best PH results aren't the ones where the BBs sink - sure that is nice for points and all - but the best ones are where you cripple most or all of them, and they have to spend months and months and months tying up repair and refit yards.  I also prefer a broader spread of targets (any subs or AVs, ARs, DDs that get hit at Pearl are just as good as the big boys).  The trick is to have enough fuel and airpower left with KB to then go allied CV hunting.

Raver has been known to drive his CV's West to a: head off a possible Wake Invasion, b: try and sink my replenishment tankers on the way past (just like I can't help knowing where his CV's start, he can't help knowing what area this TF is likely to be in on turn 2) and c: escape KB by then running North (usually) or south (bloody Raver has done this to me before as well).  I'm going to guess a direction he's going to retire his CVs in, and we'll see how I go on turn 3.

I will expect good to awesome results in this part of the plan, since I've done it a lot of times before.

Operation Deviation
This one is a new facet to my opening plan - I can't honestly say if it will even happen, and if it does whether or not I will come out a winner or a loser.

Lots of Allied players just curl up into a ball and wait for 1943 to arrive - especially when it comes to the RN.  To be honest, I prefer this, as it means my control of the SLOCs is uncontested within the SRA for that all important first month.  Raver doesn't do this - he likes to contest everything, attrite everywhere and snipe at the edges constantly - but he has always pulled PoW and Repulse out of Singapore on Turn 2 and sent them into the Bay of Bengal and safety.

The purpose of Operation Deviation is to FORCE Raver to use PoW & Repulse early on in the SRA where I can sink them.  Preferably before they join up with Warspite and the other RN units from Colombo.  Stay tuned - this will be awesome if it works (and possibly controvsersial - not as bad as PzB invading India though )






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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 11:29:29 AM   
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PI Operations for Turn 1. As you can see, even though no one has ever heard of Lamon Bay, if I'm quick, and Raver isn't, I can cut those pesky allied divisions at Naga off from Manila. Without supply, they surrender quickly - makes Manila fall all the faster.

More pics to follow while we wait for Raver-the-slow to send back a turn.






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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 11:36:30 AM   
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Borneo Turn 1 - as before, each orange arrow represents an invasion TF. No airstrikes here to speak of.
At this point I'll land at Tarakan and march overland to Samarinda and Balikpapan - too many transports in those restricted waters would be too hard to protect from Raver's subs and light (fast) surface forces.

I've learnt that often enough. By turn two, when he gets a chance to order those surface forces around the map, I'll have given him a new problem to deal with ;)






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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 12:25:18 PM   
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Farking hell......the ratbrain has only been back for a few days and already he's got friggin maps with arrows.......I'd say that if we waited another two or three days that he'd even have a power point presentation for y'all.   But let the bananananananana plot and plan away, for I have already cast a spanner into his works by getting stranded in Canberra for the night *sigh* so the yellowed-skined boy chunder will have to wait till I get home tomorrow.  

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 12:43:34 PM   
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ARGhhh.  Withdrawal symptoms already.

Waiting for turns can get very impatient.  So I start more games, get more impatient.  Thought I might have kicked this habit . . .

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 12:45:44 PM   
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LOL.............poor poor ratbrain...........spend your time well and look at the allied OB for '44 and '45.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 12:47:00 PM   
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I'll got so far as to say that by the end of '43 I will have sunk at least two maybe four of banananana boy's flattops.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 12:49:47 PM   
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Canberra................sigh........................I wish that they would open the AWM past 5pm   Stuff all else to do here 'cept trade insults with ratbrain on this rather expensive hotel broadband link (first 20 meg free then 14 cents for every 1 meg after that).  I wonder if that includes up loads as well as down loads?

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 12:53:01 PM   
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Hmmmm.........there's a Wolf Blass 2004 Cabernet Sauvignon (Yellow Label) in the mini bar.............$10 for a 375ml bottle and it is calling to me.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 12:59:54 PM   
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Shudder.
And the weekends are crappy because you've gone to sea!

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 1:03:49 PM   
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Gee they write some crap on the back of wine bottles, listen to this............." Following fermentation this wine underwent oak maturation, resulting in a soft and round wine with good length of flavour."     Now fellow readers, I ask you, how the fluck to you measure a "good length of flavour" ??????   These wine companies must hire the biggest ponce that they can find to write this crap......Oooo wait a second......I just remembered that banana boy works for one of these types of companys.  Are you a ponce Luskan?   ( Damn this is a good drop of wine *hic*)

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 1:05:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

I'll got so far as to say that by the end of '43 I will have sunk at least two maybe four of banananana boy's flattops.


By the start of 1944 eh? I may be rusty at this game, but I'm fairly certain this means Raver will have his head in the sand waiting for his death star to show up.

Someone (not me) should write a scenario where it is June 1942, no CV battles have been fought, the Jap player owns the SRA and the Solomons and Burma and Wake etc.

Then each side would get 5 or 6 non combat turns to reposition CVs, troops, supplies etc before "war" is declared.

I'm not the man for the job however!

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 1:05:58 PM   
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Yeah well I'm at sea all of Friday night but i will be free on Saturday night just so long as Mrs Raver does not have anything nasty planned.  Oh and I'm back on the water again all day Sunday but will be home Sunday night.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 1:14:21 PM   
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Well dear readers time for me to go to bed.  Night all !

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 2:10:45 PM   
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Easy to forget how early the old timers have to go to bed.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 2:18:41 PM   
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Say cheers to Johnny boy while you're in The Nations Capital. Sure he'd love to hear from you...

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/1/2006 2:25:17 PM   
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............." Following fermentation this wine underwent oak maturation, resulting in a soft and round wine with good length of flavour." 


What the....!!

BTW, what time is it over there?

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/2/2006 6:22:24 AM   
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I am expanding smaller factories (anything under 10 gets expanded to 10) which will give me a marginal boost to my total economy, but a massive boost to its efficiency (smaller factories work more often due to availablility of smaller amounts of HI points etc.


I've seen this comment in a number of Japanese strategy discussions, but I don't quite get it. In all my games, I run a substantial surplus of HI (furthest game is 3/44) - plenty that all of my factories "fire" each turn. Does everyone else run their HI that close to 0? And even if you do, you don't get more total production because if your small factory "fires" when a larger one wouldn't, you use the HI on that day and don't have it the next. Maybe if you run near 0 HI you often get a plane a day early or something, but that doesn't seem all that exciting to me.

Am I missing something?

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/2/2006 12:16:23 PM   
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G'day Buzz.......too busy to see little Johnny Howard.......plus I'm not sure he would mix with "my" type.

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RE: Aussie Affair III - This time its personal! - 11/2/2006 12:30:27 PM   
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quote:

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Gee they write some crap on the back of wine bottles, listen to this............." Following fermentation this wine underwent oak maturation, resulting in a soft and round wine with good length of flavour."     Now fellow readers, I ask you, how the fluck to you measure a "good length of flavour" ??????   These wine companies must hire the biggest ponce that they can find to write this crap......Oooo wait a second......I just remembered that banana boy works for one of these types of companys.  Are you a ponce Luskan?   ( Damn this is a good drop of wine *hic*)


The woman who wrote that label (most of the labels on wine in Australia in fact) is hot, so she gets away with it.

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Worst Jap turn 1 ever - 11/2/2006 12:52:16 PM   
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Back to the drawing board.  It is kinda sad to see what is left of my WITP skills so pathetic.

Turn 1 was a disaster.  I was unlucky, several times, but more importantly a lot of invasions stalled, and the combat results were bad.

When I watched the report, I said:
"**** **** **** mother ****er bitch ass dick piss wanker **** **** **** **** **** **** ****etcy **** ****."

Then I said:
"**** **** ****ing ****ter **** bastard motherfucking asshole wanker piss head."

You get the picture 

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41
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Already Operation Deviation is in trouble.  The us declared war on me BEFORE I hit Pearl.
Innocent DD Hato survives the attack, but not for long.

Sub attack at 43,49

Japanese Ships
DD Hato, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage - really ****t up though.

Allied Ships
SS S-36

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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 112,68

Operation Expectation was an immediate failure, in that these are the highest Pearl Harbour losses I've ever had.  This was NOT worth it.  Sank three of the BBs below, but KB is missing a lot of planes.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 110
D3A Val x 135
B5N Kate x 125

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
P-26A x 8
P-36A Mohawk x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
D3A Val: 10 destroyed, 36 damaged
B5N Kate: 11 destroyed, 33 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
P-26A: 8 destroyed
P-36A Mohawk: 6 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 24 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 8 destroyed
B-18A Bolo: 6 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 4 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage - sinks
DM Gamble, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 15, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 14, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage - Sinks
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Selfridge, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
AVD Hulbert, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage - Sinks
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
ML Oglala, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
CL Helena, Bomb hits 2
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
DD Phelps, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
26 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
20 x A6M2 Zero attacking at 100 feet
24 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
20 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
17 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
16 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
15 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
26 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
25 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x B5N Kate bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 71st PA Division, at 46,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
Ki-48 Lily x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 46
Ki-48 Lily x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
22 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 42,66

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 12

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Operation Deviation - a massive, massive massive failure of huge proportions.  Not only did the every allied bomber in the SRA fly, they actually hit some stuff, following by some abysmal surface contacts.  I can understand the TF lead by Kono getting into trouble since it started with a destroyer with two torps in it, but Hoso-thingamy and Saka-whats-his-face did extremely poorly when they had all the advantages.  Hoso-thingamy is going to get executed for how **** he performed.  Only Tanaka delivered the goods out of all the tfs (and there were a lot more than you see on the combat report) in this operation.


Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
Hudson I x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 10
Hudson I x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 7
Buffalo I x 27
Blenheim IV x 10


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Rabaul at 61,88


Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 8
Hudson I x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,60


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 11
Martin 139 x 28


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
DD Kari
DD Kiji

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
5 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,60


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Kamo
DD Kasasagi

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,60


Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 3
T.IVa x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
DD Kasasagi, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage, serious internal damage.  She's a goner. 
DD Kari

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x T.IVa bombing at 5000 feet
4 x T.IVa bombing at 5000 feet
4 x T.IVa bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,60


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,60


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Kari

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Khota Bharu at 24,45


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kasui Maru
AK Nagara Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Otori

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Songkhia at 24,43


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Ayato Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 46,49


Allied aircraft
P-35A x 2
B-17C Fortress x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Jinsan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kuching at 28,56


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Achou Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 33,61


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
Martin 139 x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Shinyo Maru
AP Tatuho Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Time Surface Combat at 39,58

Adm Hoso-whats-his-name leads a light cruiser and some of the IJN's finest destroyers in a daytime combat, where he surprised the allied naval force, launched a long lance attack (from about 45 kilometres) and got his ass whooped when he outnumbered the allies 13 to 1!  4 Sunk destroyers, and the rest running from the lone CL like girls.  The shame.  The horror! Raver has wet himself laughing - hysteria so bad he might have a heart attack and die (which would perhaps give me a fighting chance at winning the game).  I'm in trouble.


Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Shell hits 8,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 5,  on fire
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 25, and is sunk
DD Usugumo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
DD Isonami, Shell hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 7,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 9,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Murakumo, Shell hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Ayanami
DD Asagiri, Shell hits 3,  on fire
DD Yugiri, Shell hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Amagiri, Shell hits 15, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 37,  on fire - some damage to the paint, and her Captain's biggest problem is he's probably out of ammo.

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Day Time Surface Combat at 22,62

Admiral Kone sinks the Tromp (or very close to) but is going to loose the Jintsu for it.

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago, Shell hits 1
CL Jintsu, Shell hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
DD Ikazuchi
DD Inazuma

Allied Ships
CL Tromp, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Tanaka, my only decent Admiral, has three cripples to nurse after the battle, but he did finally get me a victory.  One! 

Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SOC-3 Seagull: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Shell hits 4
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 2
CA Kumano, Shell hits 1
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 2
DD Nowaki
DD Arashi, Shell hits 14,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 7,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Uranami, Shell hits 7,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Shikinami, Shell hits 6,  on fire

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 44, and is sunk
DD Barker, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
DD Bulmer, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
DD Parrott, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Shell hits 20, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat at 25,67

Operation Deviation fails again - here we have a "careful" jap Admiral turn tail and run.

Japanese Ships
CL Naka, Shell hits 1
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Harusame, Shell hits 1
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 2
DD Banckert
DD Witte de With, Shell hits 2,  on fire
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein

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Day Time Surface Combat at 29,66

Another decisive chapter in operation Deviation where my navy perform like ****. 

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Kuma
DD Asakaze
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
DD Alden, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Edsall
DD John D. Edwards
DD Whipple

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Day Time Surface Combat at 20,60

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
DD Kasasagi,  on fire,  heavy damage  (bombed earlier)
DD Kari, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Kiji
DD Kamo

Allied Ships
CL Java, Shell hits 2
DD Van Nes
DD Evertsen

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Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

And now operation Aspiration, which worked for the most part.  However some of you will notice that there are some places I sent surface combat TFs that don't have invasion TF's arriving this turn.  This is due to my staff's ineptitude.  Heads will roll.  *sigh*


Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Oshio
DD Asashio
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 6
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 6

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Naval bombardment of Davao, at 41,61 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 3
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba

Allied Ships
AK Montanes, Shell hits 2,  on fire
AVD William B. Preston, Shell hits 1,  on fire
AK Mauban, Shell hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5
Port fuel hits 3

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Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko
DD Shiokaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Nagara


Allied ground losses:
134 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 6

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Naval bombardment of Cagayan, at 42,59


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Oi
CL Kitakami
CL Kinu
CL Yura
BB Nagato
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro
BB Ise
BB Hyuga

Allied Ships
AK Magallanes, Shell hits 6,  on fire
AK Luzon, Shell hits 8,  on fire,  heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
215 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 10
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

The wake invasion goes extremely well - I capture the airfield with no damage to it, and have 70+ aviation support points immediately on shore.  I've loaded a lot of search planes, torpedo planes and fighters here in case Raver's CVs decided to flee west.  If they did, they are trapped between KB and this rather ****ly target! Raver isn't that dumb though.  If his CVs were heading towards wake, he watch the combat replay, saw the base forces when Wake fell and steered his CVs someplace else.

104 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Hayate, Shell hits 4,  on fire
DD Oite, Shell hits 6,  on fire
DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 9,  on fire
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage - actually not so bad for once.  She'll make it.
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 6
CL Yubari, Shell hits 5
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 3
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 2
CL Katori, Shell hits 5


Allied ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 16
TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63


265 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Chifuku Maru, Shell hits 3
ML Tokiwa, Shell hits 4
ML Okinoshima, Shell hits 8,  on fire
PG Kaiun Maru, Shell hits 2
DD Asanagi, Shell hits 2
DD Yunagi, Shell hits 1
PG Ikunta Maru, Shell hits 2,  on fire
PG Hakkaisan Maru, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
640 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Brunei, 32,57, firing at TF 49
TF 49 troops unloading over beach at Brunei, 32,57


6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Saga

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported

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TF 56 troops unloading over beach at Miri, 31,57


Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 72 troops unloading over beach at Jesselton, 35,56


Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Taytay, 39,53


Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Jolo, 38,59


Japanese ground losses:
200 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 84
TF 84 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67


Japanese ground losses:
139 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Khota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Khota Bharu, 24,45


79 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 7

Japanese ground losses:
813 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 86 troops unloading over beach at Puerto Princesa, 38,55


Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 46,49


Japanese ground losses:
440 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Laoag, 45,49


Japanese ground losses:
316 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 89
TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88


58 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Showa Maru #5, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
562 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 90 troops unloading over beach at Batan Island, 47,47


Japanese ground losses:
144 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 92 troops unloading over beach at Legaspi, 44,55


Japanese ground losses:
576 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 97 troops unloading over beach at Sandakan, 36,58


Japanese ground losses:
144 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Kuching, 28,56, firing at TF 98
TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 28,56


19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Tsunushima Maru, Shell hits 1,  on fire
DD Otori
DD Hayabusa

Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported

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TF 99 troops unloading over beach at Zamboanga, 39,59


Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 100 troops unloading over beach at Lamon Bay, 44,52


Japanese ground losses:
119 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 102 troops unloading over beach at Kendari, 33,71


Japanese ground losses:
796 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 113 troops unloading over beach at San Jose, 41,53


Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 114 troops unloading over beach at Roxas, 42,55


Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 130 troops unloading over beach at Ormoc, 43,57


Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 135 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 33,61


Japanese ground losses:
1042 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 136 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 42,59


Japanese ground losses:
576 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 148 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66


Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 152 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 79,91


Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coastal Guns at Davao, 41,61, firing at TF 153
TF 153 troops unloading over beach at Davao, 41,61


6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
460 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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TF 155 troops unloading over beach at Wewak, 52,81


Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 156 troops unloading over beach at Admiralty Islands, 58,84


Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 157 troops unloading over beach at Shortlands, 63,93


Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TF 158 troops unloading over beach at Lunga, 67,97


Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3472 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 127

Defending force 1616 troops, 33 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Japanese max assault: 238 - adjusted assault: 120

Allied max defense: 6 - adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 60 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
340 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
1664 casualties reported
Guns lost 29
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Nanchang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25007 troops, 251 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 419

Defending force 7457 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 235

Japanese max assault: 458 - adjusted assault: 283

Allied max defense: 258 - adjusted defense: 21

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
214 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4946 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 139

Defending force 10739 troops, 79 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 369


Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Kuching

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1114 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38

Defending force 2649 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 87



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Ground combat at Menado

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1303 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43

Defending force 2163 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66


Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Rabaul

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2296 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 78

Defending force 7255 troops, 87 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 186


Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Davao

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2896 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 90

Defending force 6450 troops, 68 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 199



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Batan Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1692 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Defending force 622 troops, 6 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 144 - adjusted assault: 116

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 58 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Batan Island base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1040 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Nauru Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 515 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 34 - adjusted assault: 10

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nauru Island base !!!







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With dancing Bananas and Storm Troopers who needs BBs?

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