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Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 1:36:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was size 1 port and size 5 airfield and 25000 supplies in Port Moresby yesterday. A day later there're only 5000 supplies. What happened for 20000 supplies?

PM is constantly bombarded by my opponent. There is 78 airfield service damage. Could this cause disappearance of the supplies?

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RE: Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 1:55:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Repairing the field will burn up some supply. Just about every action burns some supply. To drop 20,000 in one day something else is going on though.

If you have any other active bases on New Guinea, a good chunk of that supply may have been transferred to another base. The AI will shift supply around between bases on the same island or continent. If one of the other bases has an HQ, HQs tend to draw more supply to that base, so it could suck down the supply from other bases on the island.

The total size of Port Morsby is size 6 (1 size port + 5 size AF). Spoilage is calculated based on the size of the two combined. If 10 or greater, there is no spoilage. A size 6 base shouldn't have spoilage for 25,000 supply. I don't have it in front of me right now, but there is a chart available on one of the fan websites that has the maximum supplies and fuel allowed at each size of base. Size 6 can have something like 50 or 60,000 supply without spoilage if I recall. The formula is in the manual too.

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RE: Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 2:14:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK - it's not the spoilage then. I checked the formula too.

They aren't in other bases in New Guinea either. This is a bit odd, because seems like the supplies are just fanished. Similar happenened in DEI too. There were around 30000 supplies in Soerabaja and on the next morning there were only 8000 supplies. OK - there was a land combat few hexes away from Soerabaja. I thought that was the reason then. But I'm really confused about PM...

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RE: Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 2:17:40 PM   
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RE: Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 2:18:40 PM   
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RE: Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 2:35:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pionkki

OK - it's not the spoilage then. I checked the formula too.

They aren't in other bases in New Guinea either.


That was my first thought. Its funny how a ground unit takes 2 months to cross the Stanley Mountians to Buna but supply can move overnight Didn't this get looked at/fixed in one of the patches. So basically I have no idea what happened to your supply.


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RE: Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 2:56:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you recently drop off supplies at PM?

One thing I've noticed is that if a base has less than 1x its required supply, it won't issue any of that to its units. Once it goes over 1x supply requirements it will issue supply to the LCUs there, and there can be a sudden drop in supply at the base. Though I've never seen a drop that large - the largest I've noticed is maybe 8-10K and that was to feed a large Chinese army.

Might be an explanation. Or maybe you have a corrupt supply sargeant.

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RE: Spoilage? - 11/25/2006 4:50:35 PM   
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Did you recently drop off supplies at PM?



Not for two-three weeks. The IJAF controls seas at htat area...

Common for supply dissapearance in Soerabaja and PM was that nearby base/beach was captured by the Japs.

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Or maybe you have a corrupt supply sargeant.

Could be that too...

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RE: Spoilage? - 11/27/2006 7:05:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you have a lot of units at PM??? If so the following may be happening.

A unit not under attack will hold a certain amount of supply at unit level. When attacked this amount is doubled and so the unit draws a big chunk from the base. This can cause rapid fluctuation of you base stockage as the supply has moved out to your units.

Also if you have over 20,000 supply and a lot of units with replacements ON then this can burn a lot of supply in one turn.

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RE: Spoilage? - 11/27/2006 7:54:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Combat and repairing burn *lot* of supply. If you have heavily damaged airfield/port, you'll suffer. Plus bombardments regularly destroy small part of supply directly.

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RE: Spoilage? - 11/28/2006 8:04:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: moses
Do you have a lot of units at PM??? If so the following may be happening.


I have plenty of troops in PM and all of them have replacements allowed. They are in quite good shape now even though they weren't fully combat ready when I moved them to PM. So it could be that. Thanks.



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RE: Spoilage? - 11/28/2006 9:55:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		When your airfield was being bombed, did you take a lot of supply hits? A combination of supply hiTs, spoilage, supply transfer and restocking LCUs might do it. Just a guess.

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