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Are all the different professional leagues' players lim... - 11/12/2006 7:46:37 PM

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Are all the different professional leagues' players limits in MF?

If not, that would be nice in MF.

The NFL, I think, has a 53-player roster per franchise.

Since, a moderator had editted this post and I cannot remember what exactly I originally posted, thus I am going to rephrase this questionable sentence (that was responsed to by that same moderator) and use the opportunity to make it all one-topic (not sure if it was that way originally or not). It would also be awesome, if MF also included each of CFB conferences per program limits.

It would be awesome, if MF also included the ability for each program to use the roster limits as they please. Using Red shirting and Medical-RSing to raise the roster limits from game day roster limits to include Red shirting and Medical-RSing limits.

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RE: Sorry, If This Question Has Already Been Asked, Esp... - 11/28/2006 8:49:06 PM

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i dont think there is, but i could be wrong.

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RE: Sorry, If This Question Has Already Been Asked, Esp... - 11/28/2006 9:01:16 PM

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You determine how big you want the rosters to be when you set up the league. I think the current options are 60, 45, and maybe 40 (not sure, I'm not in front of my PC with the game on it). 53 is supposed to be added soon.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 11/28/2006 9:26:03 PM

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It would also be awesome, if MF also included each of CFB conferences per program limits.

Since MF is a game based on professional football American, Indoor or Canadian rules how would this occur?

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/14/2006 4:33:37 PM

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quote:

Are all the different professional leagues' players limits in MF?

If not, that would be nice in MF. The NFL, I think, has a 53-player roster per franchise.

The roster sizes in the game are: 20, 40, 45, 53, and 65 players respectively.

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It would also be awesome, if MF also included each of CFB conferences per program limits.

Conference formats are determined by the schedule. At this time, the schedule is set up as a round robin by the computer, but the schedule can be edited.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/16/2006 3:12:26 AM

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It would also be awesome, if MF also included each of CFB conferences per program limits.

This will need to be confirmed by the floor, but my understanding of college football roster rules was that for home games there was no limit to the number of players you could dress, but for road games, you had a travelling squad that couldn't be more than 55 or 65 players (I thought it was 55, but the 65 man roster option might be what that was for). The rules might have changed and I could be totally wrong on this point

If I'm right, however, and we're going for total accuracy and compliance here, this would pose huge problems from a gaming standpoint. It would mean two completely separate rosters for home and road games.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/21/2006 5:41:56 PM

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Brockleigh,

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It would also be awesome, if MF also included each of CFB conferences per program limits.
It would be awesome, if MF also included the ability for each program to use the roster limits as they please. Using Red shirting and Medical-RSing to raise the roster limits from game day roster limits to include Red shirting and Medical-RSing limits.

You are right, about different rosters sizes home and away; however, I do not know what rosters limit is for away. Also, when I posted about the rosters sizes I meant the players in full-pads/available for the game (which varies from program to program because of injuries, redshirting and etc,). Sure it would be nice to see those injured players, reshirted players and etc on the sideline dressed, no pads,/unavailable, but I am talking about leaving of those just dressed, from each programs' game day rosters. Of course, outside the game day rosters, then I definitely want all 85-players.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/21/2006 5:51:28 PM

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Brockleigh,

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This will need to be confirmed by the floor, but my understanding of college football roster rules was that for home games there was no limit to the number of players you could dress,

Only limited by number of players on the rosters.
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If I'm right, however, and we're going for total accuracy and compliance here, this would pose huge problems from a gaming standpoint. It would mean two completely separate rosters for home and road games.

All I would need is the players available�on my roster, if I reshirted�no one, no one is injured�enough and no one has�any reason not to be available at home and away game times, then great give me 85-scholarship players. If there are any of the above, in the my previous sentence, before home and away games, then give me what is left over. I would not want to limited by an away game rule, instilled because of the real away game's costs of having 85+-players or whatever the reasons are.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/22/2006 2:01:15 AM

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The roster sizes in the game are: 20, 40, 45, 53, and 65 players respectively.

I have the game and don`t have the game at the same time its a Christmas gift.Will editting the roster size in the database to 37 effect anything such as player assignments in roster spots.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/22/2006 2:41:21 AM

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Will editting the roster size in the database to 37 effect anything such as player assignments in roster spots.

If the roster is set to 40 players, the computer will pick up three free agents to fill out the active roster.

Pretend they don't exist.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/22/2006 3:17:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: GWsFBAReservUrFBTeam
All I would need is the players available�on my roster, if I reshirted�no one, no one is injured�enough and no one has�any reason not to available at home and away game times, then great give me 85-players.

Not trying to start a fight, but 85 is simply the number players a school can have on scholarship at one time, assuming they aren't being penalized with sanctions, like the entire SEC except for Vanderbilt

. At the larger schools, rosters routinely break 100+ with walk-ons.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/22/2006 4:33:39 AM

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dreamtheatervt,
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�� Yeah that is right, then there are those walk-ons.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/23/2006 6:51:51 PM

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dreamtheatervt and Anyone Else Interested,

WOW! You would figure there is a limit. I guess this means that MF could decide their own CFB limit, I like 100-players, but 85-players for game days.

Subject: RE: What is the home game and away game roster limits for Div. 1A FootBall Programs?

Date:
Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:45:34 -0500

From:
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To:
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Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:45:34 -0500

"Halpin, Ty" <THalpin@ncaa.org>

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It is left to each team. We do have scholarship requirements, but that has nothing to do with how many players may be dressed. We limit the number of people in the team area, but in theory, those could all be players.

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Subject: RE: What is the home game and away game roster limits for Div. 1A FootBall Programs?

Dear: Mr. Halpin,

Then which department and who, in that
department, do I contact? Or is there no regulation (by The NCAA) of Div. 1A FootBall Programs' home game and away game rosters? Left to each program?

"Halpin, Ty" <THalpin@ncaa.org> wrote:

We do not have any roster limits by our rules book. Ty

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Subject: What is the home game and away game roster limits for Div. 1A FootBall Programs?

Dear: Mr. Halpin,

What is the home game and away game roster limits for Div. 1A FootBall Programs?

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/23/2006 7:49:13 PM

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100 players?! what is this, an NFL casting call?

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/26/2006 10:10:46 PM

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jrodsly,

No, I am posting (as others has, even in this very discussion) to help a narrow focused FB gaming game to become useable for any football level. By posting about 100-players, to simulate the environments that happen in CFB level. Yes, as stated in past, I continue to try to entertain myself with lower division levels; however, with the level of FB played there, I just cannot. Thus, I am only pushing for Div. 1A Fb of CFB.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/26/2006 10:13:16 PM

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a narrow focused FB gaming game to become useable for any football level.

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Not a problem that is unique to only MF, for all the�FB Gaming Games I know of it is a problem of all of FB Gaming Games.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/27/2006 1:58:35 AM

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still.... 100 players?!

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/27/2006 6:23:41 PM

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jrodsly,

        You mean in more respectful terms, can I put it in shorter sentence, for your reading.

        How can the environments that happen in CFB Div. 1A be simulate with less than 100-Players rosters, at least 85-players being on the sidelines and 85-players or less (taking out R.S., M.R.S., Injuries and etc) being available/in full pads? <-Good english Especially, when there current is only a limit of 85-scholarship players and no other limits, at all, and previous decades there were only a limit of 100-scholarship players and no other limits, at all?


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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/28/2006 5:14:19 PM

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Actually I read just the other day that there's a limit to the number of walk-ons a team can have in their program. According to the article it is some sort of NCAA rule. As I recall the number was either 125 or 135 total players including the 85 on scholarship. (I forget which)

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/28/2006 6:03:53 PM

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JasonninTN,

With all due respect, you are probably misinterpreting the rules; since Ty Halpin is The NCAA FB rules representative. If any one-person is going to get it right, it would be him.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/29/2006 8:50:25 AM

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Vick Winnek at Allexperts.com has this to say about this subject:

Experience in the area: 19 years officiating High School & College football, NCAA Referee, Back Judge & Line Judge 2 years Arena Football - substitution official Instructor of NCAA & Federation Officials, Played prep and college football; coached High School football; Athletic trainer; 20 years of instruction in Officiating Football.

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Subject: Roster limits - D1

Question: I don't believe there's a roster limit for home games, but is there a limit as to the number of players a team may travel with and suit up for away games?

Answer: The NCAA Football Rules do not address this issue as it is an NCAA administrative regulation not a playing rule. At one time it was 48 squad members as the limit for the traveling team. I have a call into the NCAA to verify the travel limit. There is a roster limit for suiting up at home games. I will verify this number as it has changed over the years from unlimited to 100 to 80.

NCAA Football Rule 1-2-4(b) limits the number of non uniformed personnel in the team area to 60 for both teams.

Follow up answer: I was just advised it is done on a conference by conference basis the vast majority limit travel squads from 60-70 squadmembers and many limit the number of dressed home game squad members. NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11 governs the size per my contact at the NCAA.

D-1A Squads are imited to 105 squad size amd D-1AA is limited to 90. As far as travel only 56 squad members can travel the D-1AA level (63 for D-III). I still do no have an answer for D-1A.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/30/2006 1:24:45 AM

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Maybe he is right, just seems like if the conferences' determined it, Ty would have at least told me that, when I asked him for the contact information for those who knew.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/30/2006 6:19:35 AM

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GW, your contact stated it was not part of the NCAA rules, and that is correct.

Like many things, the divisions and conferences have their own rules. That is why trying to put all of them into the game would be such a daunting task.

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RE: Roster Size Limits - 12/30/2006 3:49:56 PM

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quote:

Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:45:34 -0500

From:
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"Halpin, Ty" <THalpin@ncaa.org>

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It is left to each team. We do have scholarship requirements, but that has nothing to do with how many players may be dressed. We limit the number of people in the team area, but in theory, those could all be players.

When you read the entire post, you notice what is bold, does not say that. It is even more individualized; however, even with the more individualized to letting the programs decide (harder than the conferences, no one even mentioned divisions) makes it easy. Just pick a number, I like 100-players and allow MF's USAn college teams to use from 85-players to up to 100-players.

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I was just advised it is done on a conference by conference basis the vast majority limit travel squads from 60-70 squadmembers and many limit the number of dressed home game squad members. NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11 governs the size per my contact at the NCAA.

I have thought of one-point that makes the above unlikely and another point that makes the above impossible.

First, Ty works for The NCAA and I asked him

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Then which department and who, in that
department, do I contact? Or is there no regulation (by The NCAA) of Div. 1A FootBall Programs' home game and away game rosters? Left to each program?

if it was a

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NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11

, then he would have at least put me incontact with The NCAA Admin. Just as if it was conferences who determined the limits, then he would have at least put me incontact with one the conferences representatives.

Second, Independents (like Notre Dame) would have a huge recruiting (dress how many people on the sideline you like) and etc advantage; because

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NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11

only gives conferences the power to set the limit and Independents have no conferences. Maybe away games, the Programs' conferences they play can set it; but for Notre Dame home games they do what they like.

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