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Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/5/2007 6:21:04 AM

VanScoy

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I was playing 2006 when a Brewers pitcher was yanked with a perfect game on the line in the 9th for the closer. What was the A/I thinking?

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/5/2007 7:17:32 AM

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Humm.. He's thrown 115 pitches and he is tired. I have a closer who is mowing them down, and I really need to win this game.

I know, I know. But dont you wish the AI thought this way. Maybe it does!

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/5/2007 9:13:00 AM

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The AI doesn't take into consideration 'perfect game', 'no hitter', or 'complete game shutout'. That's part of why relief pitchers get slightly too many appearances.

At some point, I'm sure Shaun will go back in and look at some of those items - extending a hitter's hitting streak, giving a guy a shot at his shutout/nohitter/etc - but its pretty low on the priority list.

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/5/2007 1:44:09 PM

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I swear it actually does take this into account, but obviously not enough. I'll add this to the list of AI tweaks to look into thanks.

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/5/2007 6:12:06 PM

Amaroq

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Sorry for misinforming you guys!

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/5/2007 9:28:02 PM

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I was trying to figure out why the A/I changed pitchers and I am scratching my head. He had only thrown 74 pitches, 66 for strikes and had struck out seven. The A/I did not pinch hit for him and the Brewers were ahead by 5 runs. Go figure....

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/6/2007 2:01:00 AM

Amaroq

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For the CLOSER? With a 5-run lead?

The AI will normally not even consider the closer unless protecting a three-run lead. (Unless it was a save situation - bases loaded, so that the on-deck hitter counted as the 'tying run'... and if that's the case, I could see bringing him out rather than letting him undo a tremendous performance with a ninth-inning meltdown.)

The other thing I'm wondering - have you played with the pitcher fatigue model at all, modifying the .XML file? Perhaps the AI perceived him as more exhausted than he really was?

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/6/2007 5:08:08 AM

VanScoy

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I have a completely vanilla XML. I cannot figure it out either. The pitcher was Chris Capuano for Milwaukee and he is rated a 78 endurance. There was no one on base but, upon further review, it was only a two run lead. So maybe the A/I felt, as Amaroq said, it was in danger of losing the game. Sorry if has become a tempest in a teapot with my misidentification of the game situation, but still.. Capuano was throwing BBs and it WAS a perfect game.

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/7/2007 2:16:16 AM

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Pitcher Hook Values probably had influence on this.I use -7 on starters.

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RE: Pitcher yanked in 9th of Perfect game - 1/8/2007 6:09:30 PM

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No problem.

I think the "use closer" code basically puts the closer in for every save situation, as soon as it becomes a save situation, and none other.

Shaun can correct me, of course. :)

The biggest issue I'd like to see, with that, is using the closer for two innings any time the score is tied in the ninth inning or later. (Rather than saving the closer for a 'save' situation which can't EVER happen for the home team.)

To your point, perhaps it should have an exception for starting pitchers who are not yet facing even the tying run?

Maybe a difference could be drawn between a regular-season game and a postseason game, with managers willing to risk the starter blowing up in the regular season, but going to the closer in the postseason?

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