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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

Nik, will they not put you on the waiting list until you complete those courses?

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ORIGINAL: VSWG

Even bad advertisment is advertisment...

But it looks like you're right.

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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

Nik, will they not put you on the waiting list until you complete those courses?

probably not. they want the courses all completed before doing so. I wrote an appeal email to the director. I think it's kind of crappy that they raise the stats just as i complete the old ones.

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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ORIGINAL: VSWG

Even bad advertisment is advertisment...

But it looks like you're right.

Whoops, not completely right... the description of the "nosing over" bothered me - and the registration number is N8487, not N3487...

but here is the real story:

Small Plane Lands In Tree

POSTED: 6:37 pm MST December 7, 2006
UPDATED: 1:08 pm MST December 8, 2006

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COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- A plane landed in a tree Thursday night at Meadowlake Airport in El Paso County.

The pilot was the only person on board, and he survived. His injuries were minor with a cut in his head. He was released at the scene.

Investigators said the pilot was practicing take-offs and landings around 5 p.m., Thursday. When he came in for another landing, he lost power. The pilot tried to restart the engine and it failed, causing it to crash into the tree.


The crash caused the power to go out for about 100 homes in the area.

The airport is located about 15 miles east of Colorado Springs near Falcon, Colo.

Emergency workers closed Judge Orr Road because of debris from the crash.

The plane remained in the tree until National Transportation Safety Board investigators could examine it.

Here's another pic in the article:

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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

Nik, will they not put you on the waiting list until you complete those courses?

probably not. they want the courses all completed before doing so. I wrote an appeal email to the director. I think it's kind of crappy that they raise the stats just as i complete the old ones.

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I agree Nik it's like hitting a moving target. Good luck with the appeal. One last thought, if you can't get the requirement waived maybe you could test out of it.

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I agree Nik it's like hitting a moving target. Good luck with the appeal. One last thought, if you can't get the requirement waived maybe you could test out of it.

Not if it's math. I already tested. thats the frustrating part. I placed squarely in the Intro to Alegbra catagory and all the Intermediate's require the intro's as a pre-req OR you test to placement. I havn't touched Algebra since HS. Its ridiculous that they require it in the first place.....it doesn't require complex Alegbraic equations to run medical equipment for god's sake. the Anatomy &Physiology.....even the useless sociology i can understand....but Algebra? what changed? they didn't require it years prior.....

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Well, I finally played a turn last (while watching Ohio State embarass itself ).  Attu finally fell, after about a 3 month seige.  I took 27k prisoners, including 3x RCTs, an art unit, an aviation reg, BF, and 5 other misc units, as well as a PBY unit.   Unfortunately, it took practically all my available 4th Fleet LCUs and several other units which were earmarked for other places.  I also own Kiska but he has built a large base on Adak.  Eventually, after the base is rebuilt (27k worth of forced labor ) I have a nice air group waiting to move there.  I'll pummel Adak to the stone age and then decide whether or not to invade. We'll see......

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

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Well, I finally played a turn last (while watching Ohio State embarass itself ).  Attu finally fell, after about a 3 month seige.  I took 27k prisoners, including 3x RCTs, an art unit, an aviation reg, BF, and 5 other misc units, as well as a PBY unit.   Unfortunately, it took practically all my available 4th Fleet LCUs and several other units which were earmarked for other places.  I also own Kiska but he has built a large base on Adak.  Eventually, after the base is rebuilt (27k worth of forced labor ) I have a nice air group waiting to move there.  I'll pummel Adak to the stone age and then decide whether or not to invade. We'll see......

Mike, what's the date?

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Not if it's math. I already tested. thats the frustrating part. I placed squarely in the Intro to Alegbra catagory and all the Intermediate's require the intro's as a pre-req OR you test to placement. I havn't touched Algebra since HS. Its ridiculous that they require it in the first place.....it doesn't require complex Alegbraic equations to run medical equipment for god's sake. the Anatomy &Physiology.....even the useless sociology i can understand....but Algebra? what changed? they didn't require it years prior.....

Having spent far too many years in the University environment, I believe it all comes down to $$. The more classes you take the more bucks they make.

When I started college, I'd had 2 years of calculus and they put me into Algebra. I had an extra year of math to take. The only good thing was that it was easy A's for awhile.

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Chris
Are you ready for more snow?

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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

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Chris
Are you ready for more snow?

We got snow here in Central Ohio this morning. It stuck in the form of water....

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

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Not if it's math. I already tested. thats the frustrating part. I placed squarely in the Intro to Alegbra catagory and all the Intermediate's require the intro's as a pre-req OR you test to placement. I havn't touched Algebra since HS. Its ridiculous that they require it in the first place.....it doesn't require complex Alegbraic equations to run medical equipment for god's sake. the Anatomy &Physiology.....even the useless sociology i can understand....but Algebra? what changed? they didn't require it years prior.....

Having spent far too many years in the University environment, I believe it all comes down to $$. The more classes you take the more bucks they make.

When I started college, I'd had 2 years of calculus and they put me into Algebra. I had an extra year of math to take. The only good thing was that it was easy A's for awhile.

I've seen this sort of thing before. It indicates that the field in general is trying to move to a "more professional" level of expertise. Notice I put it in quotes because its really highly subjective IMO. It would indicate that they want to view the person more as a scientific professional. That's good in the since that it will push salaries for those that get into the field up considerably.

I sort of agree that math courses are often required for more often than they are used. I use my physics degree frequently and while I use the basic physics principals all the time, I seldom sit down and work out the problem, that's what computers are for. Still, there are occassions where it does happen. This last year I have done a serious amount of matrix algebra. BLECk!

Still, it sucks that they are changing the requirements on you. Seems that some sort of accomodation could be worked out like the put you on the waiting list while you take the courses or something.

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
I've seen this sort of thing before. It indicates that the field in general is trying to move to a "more professional" level of expertise. Notice I put it in quotes because its really highly subjective IMO. It would indicate that they want to view the person more as a scientific professional. That's good in the since that it will push salaries for those that get into the field up considerably.

I sort of agree that math courses are often required for more often than they are used. I use my physics degree frequently and while I use the basic physics principals all the time, I seldom sit down and work out the problem, that's what computers are for. Still, there are occassions where it does happen. This last year I have done a serious amount of matrix algebra. BLECk!

Still, it sucks that they are changing the requirements on you. Seems that some sort of accomodation could be worked out like the put you on the waiting list while you take the courses or something.

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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

WOW mike. I surprised you were able to doing anything offensively by that point in time.

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Chris
Are you ready for more snow?

We got snow here in Central Ohio this morning. It stuck in the form of water....

I've been told that we are going to get another 20" of snow here in Denver starting Thursday. I'm supposed to finally have that interview Friday.

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Funny story here. In grad school, I had an old fart advisor who made me analyze my data by hand for a couple of weeks so I would understand how that particular type of analysis worked (probit analysis). Anyone who ever did a probit analyis by hand knows it takes about 8 hours to do one by hand. I did as he told and kept coming up with different numbers than what the computer was telling me. After a couple of weeks of pulling my hair out, my advisor asked me how it was going. I told him of my plight and he took my data, my analysis and the computer analysis and went into his office. I then smelled his pipe (he always smoked a pipe when he was thinking). When I left that day, he was still in there. Turned out that he was doing some by hand himself. He came up with the same results that I did. We had a few conversations with the company that produced the software and eventually found out that they screwed up that program. Lots of people had based lots of research on that faulty program and had to re-analyze it because of us. It turned out that no one had ever analyzed their data by hand. I made a lot of enemies.

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I had a similar experience. In freshman physics the professor took away our calculators for a semester and required that we work all of his problems by hand. This was shortly after the Challenger accident and he said he would never be responsible for turning out Shuttle O-ring designers.

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Chris
Are you ready for more snow?

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Hey Mike
Have you looked at my problem yet?

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I had a similar experience. In freshman physics the professor took away our calculators for a semester and required that we work all of his problems by hand. This was shortly after the Challenger accident and he said he would never be responsible for turning out Shuttle O-ring designers.

it wasn't the Shuttle O-ring designers that caused the problem - the engineers knew things were wrong and tried to warn the mission controllers, iirc.


And hopefully, they won't be asking x-ray techs to recreate the CAT scan results by solving the equations to reproduce the pic... (each pixel would probably be about 8 hours of calculations...)

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