Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: burnsp
I don't have access to a printer. Is there anyone willing to post out a copy of the instructions ??

my e-mail is peterburns01@yahoo.co.uk

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ORIGINAL: ralphtrick

The help file also should contain the same material as the manual

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..elephants Ralph, think "elephants"..

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..elephants Ralph, think "elephants"..

Well maybe I'll do an Indian mutiny scenario. Then I'll definitely need an "elephant team" equipment type for hauling around the heavy siege mortars.

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..oh Ben, catch up..third or Elmer player involvement...

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..oh Ben, catch up..third or Elmer player involvement...

I was thinking porter squads with different graphics. I thought of higher defence ratings for a moment but elephants are difficult to coerce if they're alarmed so in practice they could be taken out of the picture fairly easily.

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..almost, except go """" CHARGE""""..assuming they're war elephants and it's BC something-or-other..

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..almost, except go """" CHARGE""""..assuming they're war elephants and it's BC something-or-other..

Go buy Rome Total War already. It's supposed to be pretty good.

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..tried it..toy-town stuff, loads'a graphics, lousy engine..

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..tried it..toy-town stuff, loads'a graphics, lousy engine..

Well the fact is that real ancient battles were nearly impossible to control. You want the game to be realistic but still be a game: trouble is that's more or less impossible. At their best, ancient tactics were about carrying out a pre-arranged plan, but most of the time they were about just laying into the other guy until somebody broke.

If you want to do any of these things with TOAW, you'd have to either go strategic (which I don't believe is your interest) or cut out the player entirely. Generals just didn't have an input in pre-modern battles the way they have done over the last couple of centuries.

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..beg to differ almost, yup it has to be to a pre-arraigned (sp) plan, but so are all battles on whatever scale,

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direct control in toaw is reduced by playing the with the force communication, force prof etc and as an ultimate, the EvilEd, the latter especially fore unwilling/forced levy units..

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..beg to differ almost, yup it has to be to a pre-arraigned (sp) plan, but so are all battles on whatever scale,

Well, no. Obviously one has to have a plan, but get to the modern era and things get tweaked part way through. Alexander made sure everyone was set up and then drew his sword and got stuck in: There was nothing left for him to do as commander.

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direct control in toaw is reduced by playing the with the force communication, force prof etc and as an ultimate, the EvilEd, the latter especially fore unwilling/forced levy units..

What you might consider is allowing the player to set the objectives for the PO- this would be the closest one can get.

Of course, TOAW's also not a tactical game. Considerations like line of sight aren't involved. How do you make sure that you can see that cavalry column that's in the plain but not the hoplites behind the hill? You can't: TOAW doesn't allow for any such distinction.

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..no toaw's not a tactical game, but pls, first, understand that "tactical" varies according to the throw range of the weapons involved..

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..as for yr hill, if most weapons only have a range of 1 then....

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..just how easy do you think it is to move even a motorised division from one flank to another, all that changes is scale and weapon range..

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..and as far as seeing troops goes, set any map wide recon to 0,

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..oh, and the bulldozer finally did it's stuff today, init great, there's a country smaller than England and it's previous occupier/invaders couldn't even give it a decent road system..super-powers, k-m-a

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..just how easy do you think it is to move even a motorised division from one flank to another, all that changes is scale and weapon range..

Well, I can tell you it's much easier with radios than with runners.

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..and as far as seeing troops goes, set any map wide recon to 0,

OK. So how do the Romans see the 'lure' fleeing before them on the lakeside?

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..oh, and the bulldozer finally did it's stuff today, init great, there's a country smaller than England and it's previous occupier/invaders couldn't even give it a decent road system..super-powers, k-m-a

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I imagine the state of affairs when they left was a lot better than when they arrived.

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I imagine the state of affairs when they left was a lot better than when they arrived.

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..lures, dunno ask Ralph

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..you are of course, refering to the bulldozers ..

..or are we talking agri-business, prostituti...err sorry GRO's, and corruption here..

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit


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ORINAL: golden delicious...I dunno. Maybe I'm referring to the fact that the Philippines actually has a relatively modern economy, making the country significantly wealthier than comparable states such as Indonesia (without the latter's oil).

...what can i say, that doesn't insult the only super-power , they sayleft on the planet...

..how does " in a pig's bum" grab you ?

..a kilo of meat costs a day's work for some 70% of the population, as does a whore...

..how i just Kapitalism,..

...and how happy i am they got US-vaccinated against any form of communism or socialism, even if they would better suit the basic social structures..


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(in reply to golden delicious)

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

...what can i say, that doesn't insult the only super-power , they sayleft on the planet...

..how does " in a pig's bum" grab you ?

..a kilo of meat costs a day's work for some 70% of the population, as does a whore...

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...and how happy i am they got US-vaccinated against any form of communism or socialism, even if they would better suit the basic social structures..

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

...what can i say, that doesn't insult the only super-power , they sayleft on the planet...

..how does " in a pig's bum" grab you ?

..a kilo of meat costs a day's work for some 70% of the population, as does a whore...

I suppose this is America's fault. After all, they really cut down on child mortality, allowing the population to explode, driving up the cost of food whilst reducing the cost of labour. I guess they really must be evil. How dare they prevent all those babies from dying?

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...and how happy i am they got US-vaccinated against any form of communism or socialism, even if they would better suit the basic social structures..

Sure. Like the suited the social structures of Cambodia.

Give it up. Even the communists aren't communist any more.

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..cutting infant mortality would have happened anyway, it's hardly space-age technology with the first basic steps being taken by Semmelweis in the 18C..

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..come on Ben, the place is smaller than England+ Wales, was their only colony and the roads, telephone and the rest stopped at the US bases, after that nothing. We, the English, did at least leave our ex-colonies in a reasonable state, even those over-run by the Japanes, and did our best to ensure that ongoing level of civilisation.

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where as we, when asked to give back Hong-King did, intact..

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btw, how's Tony Blair, still trying to marry socialism with anything he can think of ?

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ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..cutting infant mortality would have happened anyway, it's hardly space-age technology with the first basic steps being taken by Semmelweis in the 18C..

Nonsense. Cutting infant mortality may not be space age- but it requires a fundamental change both in social policy and the understanding of disease.

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..come on Ben, the place is smaller than England+ Wales, was their only colony and the roads, telephone and the rest stopped at the US bases, after that nothing. We, the English, did at least leave our ex-colonies in a reasonable state, even those over-run by the Japanes, and did our best to ensure that ongoing level of civilisation.

To be fair, they were only in charge for forty years, and about half of that they were fighting a major guerrilla, whilst the other half they were trying to transfer power to the natives. Furthermore, whilst it may be the size of England and Wales, it has rather more impressive mountains and jungles, not to mention being an archipelago rather than a single mass. I imagine that most movement was done by water- hence the lack of roads.

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where as we, when asked to give back Hong-King did, intact..

Well we had agreed to do so well in advance (though we were actually given the island, and only leased the mainland portion, but never mind).

Anyway, obviously compared with the British Empire, any colonial power is going to look bad. However you might consider the effects of the Marshal Plan and the Japanese and South Korean recovery as the American legacy.

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btw, how's Tony Blair, still trying to marry socialism with anything he can think of ?

Trying to keep the Labour Party- and the country- together.

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compared with the British Empire, any colonial power is going to look bad

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Trying to keep the Labour Party- and the country- together