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ORIGINAL: CC
First off, this game looks like it will be the best stratigec WWII game in the history of gaming!

I only hope there is an option to turn off the turn-limits I've been hearing about on this fourm!
Why? Because It allows for MUCH more freedom as you are not rushed by a stupid turn limit. Also, It is possible that the war may be still in full swing at the time the turns end.

So, all I'm asking for is just a simple OPTION to turn off the turn limits. That way, people can play according to their prefrence.

Also, Perhaps you should make an option enabiling the USSR to join any side it wishes, I mean there was strong demand for a German-Soviet-Japenese Axis. Also, it would be great and easy(I think) to enable the game to continue after/if the axis are defeated so the USSR can maybe strike at the allies.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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One of the optional rules enables extending the game until Jul/Aug 1948. That's a long extension of 18 turns (from 36 to 54 = 50%). Going beyond that the game loses a lot of its historical verisimilitude, for the reasons Frederyck gave (unit production gets rather silly). The Patton in Flames and America in Flames add-on modules from Australian Design Group (ADG) extend the war beyond 1945, with some assumptions about enhanced units being available. MWIF product 1 will not include those modules - I have more than enough to work on as it is.

Ok, that sounds long enough. Thanks.

But I have a couple newb questions:

1. How many scenarios are there and what are they? (ex: can i choose to start the game in 1943, 1944, ect.)

2. How does diplomacy work? (as Germany, how do i convince Rominia, Hungary and Bulgaria to join the Axis, how about Turkey?)

3. Are the "8 major powers that you can play individually Germany, Italy, USSR, Japan, USA, Btritian, Italy, and France?

Sorry to bug you with these questions, but I'm just trying to get as much info on this great game as possible.

Thanks in advance.

(in reply to Shannon V. OKeets)

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ORIGINAL: Frederyck

And to not overwhelm you at the start (the rule book is rather a daunting task to start reading... :) ), here are a few pointers.

There are 10 or so different scenarios, ranging from short five-turn affairs (Barbarossa and Guadalcanal) to the whole 36 turn World in Flames scenario spanning the whole war.

Regarding your questions about diplomacy - all those things you mentioned and more are covered by the rules, so for example, there are rules governing the Soviet claim to Bessarabia, or an allied aligning of Yugoslavia or Rumania joining the Axis and so forth, and the also aftermath with different results in the game depending on the reactions of other players.

The powers you play in the game are those you mentioned plus China (both communists and nationalists). So the complete list is Germany, China, USSR, Japan, USA, Commonwealth, Italy, and France (or Vichy France and Free France).

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ORIGINAL: Frederyck

And to not overwhelm you at the start (the rule book is rather a daunting task to start reading... :) ), here are a few pointers.

There are 10 or so different scenarios, ranging from short five-turn affairs (Barbarossa and Guadalcanal) to the whole 36 turn World in Flames scenario spanning the whole war.

Regarding your questions about diplomacy - all those things you mentioned and more are covered by the rules, so for example, there are rules governing the Soviet claim to Bessarabia, or an allied aligning of Yugoslavia or Rumania joining the Axis and so forth, and the also aftermath with different results in the game depending on the reactions of other players.

The powers you play in the game are those you mentioned plus China (both communists and nationalists). So the complete list is Germany, China, USSR, Japan, USA, Commonwealth, Italy, and France (or Vichy France and Free France).

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ORIGINAL: Caranorn

On the Soviet Union. The only way it would ever have sided with Germany (and even then it's unlikely, a three way war would have been more probable) is if the Western Allies had attacked it in 1940 over the Winter War. The entire Berlin-Rome-Tokyo Axis was founded against the Soviet Union (the anti comintern (Communist International) pact). The only reason Stalin (and I'm not one of his followers far from it) worked with Hitler in the 1930's was to gain time and space (unfortunatelly to purge the state first instead of using those valuable people and resources to prepare against the inevitable German attack on the Soviet Union).

In any case, even even if this 1940 Western Allies vs. Soviet war was incorporated in the game no British or French player would ever be stupid enough to attack the Soviet Union (there should never be an option for the Soviet player to voluntarily join the axis, it just never was an option).

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
One of the optional rules enables extending the game until Jul/Aug 1948. That's a long extension of 18 turns (from 36 to 54 = 50%). Going beyond that the game loses a lot of its historical verisimilitude, for the reasons Frederyck gave (unit production gets rather silly). The Patton in Flames and America in Flames add-on modules from Australian Design Group (ADG) extend the war beyond 1945, with some assumptions about enhanced units being available. MWIF product 1 will not include those modules - I have more than enough to work on as it is.

Similarly, Days of Decision (3rd edition) begins the war prior to 1939 and offers the players a lot of choices in regards to aligning different countries for the Axis and Allied sides during the 1930's. That add-on module is also not part of MWIF product 1. As you might be able to guess, Matrix Games has plans for me working on MWIF for years to come, with additional products. But one thing at a time, ... back to the code.

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ORIGINAL: CC

Also, Perhaps you should make an option enabiling the USSR to join any side it wishes...

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ORIGINAL: coregames

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ORIGINAL: CC

Also, Perhaps you should make an option enabiling the USSR to join any side it wishes...

I haven't played a recent version of DoD, but as I remember, Russia can win the entire game without ever joining the Allies (though they still can't join the Axis).