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A question regarding casualties - 2/19/2007 11:18:35 PM   
Japanese_Spirit

 

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Status: offline 		Hi there,

I remember asking this question (about two years ago when I recently purchased the game) and that was, "what does the casualty rate really stand for?". The fact is, gentlemen, it still confuses me to this day.

I was told that it meant anything from a shell exploding to a soldier's pants going missing (the latter my own bit :p) is noted as a "casualty". But, I cannot see an invasion of say an enemy held base but with no enemy soldiers causing that many "casualties".

My point being, if I unload at a base and I score 800 casualties, does that mean 800 men in the division, brigade, etc have died? Or could that be from men getting killed or the wounded, too?

What is the definition of "casualty" in this game?

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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/19/2007 11:27:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		whenever you are landing troops, the "casualties" reported are disablements that can be recovered (eventually) For combat related casuatlies the majority are always disablements but there are a few "kills/destroyed items" in the mix. One important consideration to keep in mind is if you have an LCU that is forced to retreat by combat, the casualties listed for that unit do NOT include the permanent losses incurred by the retreat. (can be up to around 20% or more of the unit's TO&E depending on unit exp and supply level.

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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/19/2007 11:33:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		As I understand it, it means that many men are 'combat ineffective'. From dead and wounded by enemy action, to injured and disorganised in the battle. On the unit screen it will equate to a number of squads lost but many more disabled.


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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/20/2007 12:11:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Casualties in this game portray LCU squads that are rendered inoperable for various reasons. It could be that they lost all their weapons when the barge they were aboard hit the reef, or that half the men suffered ankle sprains jumping down from the ship into the landing barge, or that the barge carrying the HQ hit the beach a mile away from the rest of the men...

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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/20/2007 10:31:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right, I see. So, it pertains to the actual squads in the division that either become disabled or destroyed? Alright, now I get it. So, would the number pertain to then say 800 squads or 800 men from either any of the actual squads?

But I have an idea on it is meant to be now, thanks.

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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/20/2007 10:35:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

whenever you are landing troops, the "casualties" reported are disablements that can be recovered (eventually) For combat related casuatlies the majority are always disablements but there are a few "kills/destroyed items" in the mix. One important consideration to keep in mind is if you have an LCU that is forced to retreat by combat, the casualties listed for that unit do NOT include the permanent losses incurred by the retreat. (can be up to around 20% or more of the unit's TO&E depending on unit exp and supply level.


The actual "casualty" count from the (sometimes modified) load cost of the device in question. So if an IJA Rifle (squad) device has a load cost of 17, then that is the number reported as "casualties".

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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/20/2007 10:49:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, so for example, I recieve 800 casualties landing on Vigan. That would be put down to say the disablement of squads (loss of weapons, men killed in action, etc) or the gradual destroyment of squads. Have I got it in the bag now? I think I see what you all are say.....everything operates by squads.

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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/20/2007 11:50:34 PM   
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RE: A question regarding casualties - 2/21/2007 12:38:09 AM   
Japanese_Spirit

 

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ORIGINAL: Nikademus

disablements only.


Okay, so just disablements. Thanks for the help folks, I appreciate it.

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