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Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 2/22/2007 6:51:53 PM   
Frozen Stiffer


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Status: offline 		I've been thinking very often these last few days about starting a multiplayer league.

Before I make the effort to put anything together, I'd first like to gauge interest levels; an MP league is useless without committed, motivated players/owners. Would anyone be interested in joining should such a thing become a reality?

Exact details and parameters have not yet been set and finalized yet, but I have a few I feel strongly about:

Rosters will consist of Fictional Players.
The game era will probably fall around the late 90's- just because.
Finances will be conservative and equal to all owners.
When selecting a region for your team, you can only select non-existing regions. Thus, you can't have a team from Florida, but you can have one from Miami. A city IN Texas is fine, but not a Texas team. Etc.

Also, as a question to any current Commissioners; are there any tips or bits of advice that you could share with a potential future commissioner?



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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/8/2007 3:12:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		i would certainly be interested in something like this.....

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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/16/2007 11:34:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you very much for your interest, Primarch! I am hoping to get some more responses before I put something togther- I would want at least 4 real GMs before I launch the league.

I'll keep you updated as I hear more.

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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/19/2007 12:20:14 PM   
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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/19/2007 9:47:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fantastic!

That's two out of four. Spread the word, gentlemen- my minimum is 4, but obviously the more the better!


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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/22/2007 9:02:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm interested as well, plus since i'm in a league of puresim as it is.. i can bring some experience

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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/22/2007 11:03:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for your interest darkchu! All we need is one more person and we can get this going!

In the meanwhile, please consider your team names and their originating cities. I'll begin to organize the other association details for your review, vote and/or approval!


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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/25/2007 9:44:28 PM   
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RE: Potential New Association Starting - Interested? - 3/28/2007 1:10:22 AM   
Frozen Stiffer


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Status: offline 		There's no doubt about it. I intend to put together an association that will be fun for everyone, and the only way to pull such a thing off is by accepting everyone's input and forging it into a playable environment. With darkchu's help, we're going to establish a message board for the association where we can discuss rules, parameters and variables of the game as well as communicate our plans and ideas.

I would not initiate this if I were not both committed and serious about it; I assure you I will deliver a quality product.





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Picking Teams and Cities - 3/28/2007 1:14:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let's handle the simple stuff now, shall we?

Here are some of the parameters that I had in mind when this was conceived:
  • Rosters will consist of Fictional Players.
  • The association, potentially named the National Hardball Association, will begin in 1998. Just because.
  • Team finances will be conservative (in the low $100-millon) and equal for all owners.
  • Franchises will be awarded to cities that do not currently exist in the MLB. For example, you can't have a team from Florida, but you can have one from Miami. A city IN Texas is fine, but not a Texas team, etc. Team names of course, must both be believable as well as appropriate.
  • I was considering sims in 1-week intervals, but that will be up for discussion amongst the General Managers.
  • We will begin this as a 4-team association, considering expansion if we receive interest from any other players and after the current GMs discuss it.
So far, darkchu has selected the Miami Sharks. What teams would the rest of you like to run?


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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/28/2007 9:59:50 AM   
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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/29/2007 2:18:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rmayer32

Norfolk Navigators.



Done!



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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/29/2007 3:56:34 AM   
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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/29/2007 11:43:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jmsps2007

Vancouver Orca


Brilliant!

So far, we have:

  • Miami Sharks - GM darkchu
  • Norfolk Navigators - GM rmayer32
  • Vancouver Orcas - GM jmsps2007


All we need is a team and city from Primarch, and we'll move on to the next topic of discussion! I'm also in talks with darkchu to establish a message board where we can communicate in a much better, more convenient manner.

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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/30/2007 12:39:09 AM   
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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/30/2007 1:45:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		You guys have room for a 5th?

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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/30/2007 1:58:27 AM   
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Please review the rules discussed above- if everything looks good and promising, let me know what city and what team name and you're in!


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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/30/2007 2:34:26 PM   
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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 3/31/2007 2:45:18 AM   
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With that, we now have:

  • Miami Sharks - GM darkchu
  • Norfolk Navigators - GM rmayer32
  • Vancouver Orcas - GM jmsps2007
  • Richmond Monuments - GM CBeasley37


I will begin the league as an 8-team league; this will allow 3 available teams to account for any future interest in the association. darkchu is working on our message boards. Once that's up, we'll begin finalizing rules, conditions, figures and most every other variable. This is going to be something that we will all enjoy and all participate in.

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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 4/2/2007 4:26:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would also be interested; this would be my first online league but I've been wanting to get in one for awhile.  If I wouldn't make things uneven, please count me in.  And to speed the process, if it's an aid, I'd accept team/region Greensboro Undead.

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RE: Picking Teams and Cities - 4/2/2007 9:39:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		underdog, I was going to start the association with 8 teams anyway... leaving room for (hopefully) any other GMs that would be interested in joining and playing. So if there are 5 real GMs and 3 AI ones, that works for me!

Now updated, the association looks like this:


  • Miami Sharks - GM darkchu
  • Norfolk Navigators - GM rmayer32
  • Vancouver Orcas - GM jmsps2007
  • Richmond Monuments - GM CBeasley37
  • Greensboro Undead - GM underdogautopsy


A morbid lineup, but a fine one nonetheless!

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We Have Our Six! - 4/4/2007 1:02:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is how The National Hardball Association looks:


  • Miami Sharks - GM darkchu
  • Norfolk Navigators - GM rmayer32
  • Vancouver Orcas - GM jmsps2007
  • Richmond Monuments - GM CBeasley37
  • Greensboro Undead - GM underdogautopsy
  • Brooklyn Bluebirds - GM Primarch


There will still be 8 teams total- the above represents only those who will be managed by players. I'll let you all know once the message boards are up. One of the top issues to discuss are roster sizes. I like a nice, deep, healthy farm system so my preference is for 55- to 60-man rosters. What are your thoughts?

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RE: We Have Our Six! - 4/4/2007 6:13:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		55-60 sounds good to me..

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RE: We Have Our Six! - 4/4/2007 3:25:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		55 or 60 is fine with me frozen.

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RE: We Have Our Six! - 4/4/2007 5:26:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I, too, prefer a deep farm system, so 55-60 is good with me also.

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TOPIC 1: Roster Sizes - 4/5/2007 1:29:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Topic 1: Roster Sizes

We currently have 4 votes in favor of a large roster, 0 votes against. Voting deadline will be this weekend. The large roster planned is a 60-man roster.

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TOPIC 2: Game Version - 4/5/2007 10:17:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Topic 2: Game Version

I have Puresim installed on 3 PCs: two have v1.51 one has CE 4, so I can go either way. Personally, I would prefer to play on CE 4 but I am open to your opinions.

What are your preferences?

NOTE: Please respond to this question off this thread-- other questions in their own thread.

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TOPIC 3: Finances - 4/5/2007 10:21:57 PM   
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In an effort to level the playing field (pun intended) I will have all teams with the same payroll amount. I was aiming for a $125-ish million payroll, or as close to it as the game would allow.

How does everyone feel about this amount (or something in close proximity to this amount)?

NOTE: Please respond to this question off this thread-- other questions in their own thread.

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TOPIC 4: The DH Rule - 4/6/2007 1:26:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Topic 4: The DH Rule

If the association is structured with two leagues, one will have DH and the other will not. This will be determined randomly. I would prefer to go this route, as it will make it seem more MLB-ish. However, in order to support two leagues, the association requires a minimum of 12 teams, 6 in each league/division (and each division). With only 6 human-owned teams, that will leave 6 run by AI. That's more than I would have wanted, but it leaves plenty of room for late newcomers.

Alternately, if we went with the smaller association setup of 8 teams, only 2 will be AI-controlled. However, this means there is only 1 League and 2 Divisions. This is all well and good, but the DH rule is at a league-level, not a division level. Thus, if we go with the 2nd, smaller setup the DH rule would apply to everyone (because everyone would be in the same league).

Your thoughts?

NOTE: Please respond to this question off this thread-- other questions in their own thread.

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RE: TOPIC 4: The DH Rule - 4/6/2007 7:53:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where do you respond since you have stated to respond off thread? I think it's best if everyone can state their points to everyone and not just one person. A better consensus.

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