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IsDead - 3/24/2007 7:36:27 AM

Gil R.

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As we gear up for adding new scenarios, we're making a change to the commanders.txt file (= generals database): we're adding an "IsDead" column in which a 0 will mean the general is alive when a scenario begins and a 1 will mean he's dead and therefore cannot appear in that scenario. This hasn't been something all that important to keep track of so far, but once we start adding scenarios for 1862-65 it will be. Still, there must have been some generals who died before Nov. 1861, so I'm wondering if anyone has an idea on the easiest way to obtain such a list, which I can then use for the standard scenario and "Southern Steel."

The IsDead column can also be used for generals who left the service before a scenario's start date. Those will be harder to find, though I can use the bios project as a way to make that aspect of commanders.txt more accurate over time.

Thanks!

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RE: IsDead - 3/24/2007 7:48:13 AM

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Great idea, and a lot of work!!! Chris

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RE: IsDead - 3/24/2007 8:20:29 AM

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For now, the 0's and 1's system would work, but in the near future I would hope to transition to a more logical system, i.e. entering into that column the turn a general died or resigned, so that this info would only have to be dealt with once. (E.g., Leonidas Polk was killed on June 14, 1864, which is Turn 82, so I'd just add '82' to his IsDead column and any scenario that starts later would not have Polk available.)

So, before too long I'll need a list of generals who died in the war AND the dates of their deaths. I'm sure this is out there on the web. (It's easy to find lists of generals, but perhaps lists that include death dates are harder.)

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RE: IsDead - 3/24/2007 11:36:02 AM

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quote:

For now, the 0's and 1's system would work, but in the near future I would hope to transition to a more logical system, i.e. entering into that column the turn a general died or resigned, so that this info would only have to be dealt with once. (E.g., Leonidas Polk was killed on June 14, 1864, which is Turn 82, so I'd just add '82' to his IsDead column and any scenario that starts later would not have Polk available.)

So, before too long I'll need a list of generals who died in the war AND the dates of their deaths. I'm sure this is out there on the web. (It's easy to find lists of generals, but perhaps lists that include death dates are harder.)

Here are two good Generals of the ACW sites, and I posted both earlier in the Generals' Bio thread for you all.

This link has brief bios including date and place of death:

http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/generals.html

and this link has photos and pics of the Gens. and Brevet Gens.:

http://www.generalsandbrevets.com/nb/nb1.htm

These are great links.

I thought you had that ACW Encyclopedia that listed all the Gens. of both sides with their bios??

Chris

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RE: IsDead - 3/24/2007 5:16:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gil R.

Still, there must have been some generals who died before Nov. 1861, so I'm wondering if anyone has an idea on the easiest way to obtain such a list, which I can then use for the standard scenario and "Southern Steel."

Thanks!

Here is a link that ONLY lists generals that died during the ACW:
Generals Who Died in The ACW

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RE: IsDead - 3/24/2007 8:10:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LarryP

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ORIGINAL: Gil R.

Still, there must have been some generals who died before Nov. 1861, so I'm wondering if anyone has an idea on the easiest way to obtain such a list, which I can then use for the standard scenario and "Southern Steel."

Thanks!

Here is a link that ONLY lists generals that died during the ACW:
Generals Who Died in The ACW

That site's a good start, but it's not complete: note that it lists no one for Gettysburg, when we all KNOW some generals died.

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RE: IsDead - 3/24/2007 8:11:26 PM

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Cristof139,
Those are good sites, but don't make it easy to find the information. Same with my encyclopedia -- I'm trying to avoid reading a bunch of bios, and instead just go through a list of generals who died in combat.

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RE: IsDead - 3/25/2007 12:36:57 AM

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Here's another for Confederate Generals, and Gettysburg:
Confederate Generals Killed In the ACW

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RE: IsDead - 3/25/2007 1:34:04 AM

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So near, and yet so far: it's an excellent site, and one that I remember coming across before, but I'd have to spend time looking up the dates of all those battles. Thanks, though. I can always fall back on it if nothing else turns up, though I'd still need the Union info.

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RE: IsDead - 3/25/2007 3:07:48 AM

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quote:

Here's another for Confederate Generals, and Gettysburg: Confederate Generals Killed In the ACW

Thank you very much for that site!! Chris

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RE: IsDead - 3/25/2007 4:41:44 AM

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Here's another for Confederate Generals, and Gettysburg: Confederate Generals Killed In the ACW

Here is a list of Union Generals killed in the ACW, located at the same website. It does include the date of their death.

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RE: IsDead - 3/25/2007 5:01:31 AM

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That's perfect. As for CSA generals, I guess I can look up the dates of the battles. Just the sort of brainless work I can do while watching TV one night. Thanks!

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RE: IsDead - 4/5/2007 12:31:48 AM

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I know it does not cover everything you are looking for, but it might be of some help anyway:
http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Military/UnionGenerals.html

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