Matrix Games Forums

Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Cyberwar #1 has been fought

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [General] >> General Discussion >> Cyberwar #1 has been fought Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Cyberwar #1 has been fought - 5/31/2007 9:52:13 PM   
IronManBeta


Posts: 4132
Joined: 2/25/2002
From: Burlington, Ontario
Status: offline
Just as the Spanish civil war foreshadowed many of the trends and techniques of WW2 to those with the eyes to see, the world's first cyberwar has just been fought and is being studied by those who care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/29/technology/29estonia.html?em&ex=1180670400&en=9dea0072a238483c&ei=5087%0A

I'm referring to the recent fracas that had Estonia at the receiving end of a month long campaign to shut down its digital infrastructure. It began at 10 p.m. on April 26 and built to a peak on May 10 using a world-wide network of bots. Experts from several countries rallied to the defense and have been picking over the evidence since. Others such as NATO did not help directly at the time but have taken a huge interest since. This has implications for everyone but relatively little seems to be circulating in public.

The last major wave of attacks was May 18th and now the mopping up is going on.

This new kind of warfare is not necessarily a war between sovereign states or entirely within a sovereign state like we were used to. It may eventually turn out that some or all of the attackers were of a particular national origin but that is not a precondition to an attack. Worse, it appears that they were able to rent a lot of the capacity they needed from 3rd parties (digital mercenaries?) to launch and sustain the attack. War has always required leadership, organization and deep pockets, but those attributes are no longer confined to the kind of elites we used to associate with it. It looks like we may have to get used to a whole new paradigm for 'political discourse by other means' in the future.

Me, I'm just trying to figure out how to compile an OB for this kind of conflict!

Regards, Rob
Post #: 1
RE: Cyberwar #1 has been fought - 5/31/2007 11:51:42 PM   
CapnDarwin


Posts: 8467
Joined: 2/12/2005
From: Newark, OH
Status: offline
I'm smelling a new Flashpoint game.

_____________________________

OTS is looking forward to Southern Storm getting released!

Cap'n Darwin aka Jim Snyder
On Target Simulations LLC

(in reply to IronManBeta)
Post #: 2
RE: Cyberwar #1 has been fought - 6/1/2007 6:28:02 PM   
Ursa MAior

 

Posts: 1416
Joined: 4/20/2005
From: Hungary, EU
Status: offline
Oddly enough the world has not realized it has reached the gate of a new age in warfare.

_____________________________


Art by the amazing Dixie

(in reply to CapnDarwin)
Post #: 3
RE: Cyberwar #1 has been fought - 6/1/2007 6:33:45 PM   
Terminus


Posts: 41459
Joined: 4/23/2005
From: Denmark
Status: offline
That's not "odd" in any way. It's business as usual.

_____________________________

We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.

(in reply to Ursa MAior)
Post #: 4
RE: Cyberwar #1 has been fought - 6/1/2007 7:49:48 PM   
Kuokkanen

 

Posts: 3545
Joined: 4/2/2004
Status: offline
I would like to point out that about that same time Finland got its biggest share of denial-of-service attacks. WWW site of Finland's main TV channel got attacked like that and it didn't work properly for some time. It was reported in news (also by competing TV channels), but I don't remember much details about aftermath.

_____________________________

You know what they say, don't you? About how us MechWarriors are the modern knights, how warfare has become civilized now that we have to abide by conventions and rules of war. Don't believe it.

MekWars

(in reply to Terminus)
Post #: 5
RE: Cyberwar #1 has been fought - 6/11/2007 6:21:54 PM   
rtrapasso


Posts: 22653
Joined: 9/3/2002
Status: offline
i can't look at the article you posted (since you need to apparently sign up for the NY Times to get it)...

Anyway, does not seem to be "the first" - several years ago, Chinese hackers went after the US DoD computers - they managed to mess up some of the computers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, but i don't think the main defense computers were affected aside from slowing the entire network down. i was there at the time, and some articles appeared in the local newspaper that was at Walter Reed. This would have been in May 2001.

(in reply to IronManBeta)
Post #: 6
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [General] >> General Discussion >> Cyberwar #1 has been fought Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

1.000