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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:35:24 PM   
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While it is sometimes hard to understand woodhead.....he's coming through pretty loud and clear: they are lost.

It's the Thread to us, but to them.....it's just wasted hard disk space.

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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:35:29 PM   
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EDIT: Arrgh - again too slow...

Year 1212:

German princes elect a 17-year-old grandson of the late Friedrich I Barbarossa to succeed Otto IV, whom they deposed late last year (see 1210). Otto returns from Italy in March and makes some headway against his enemies, but his wife dies in August, and his hold on the southern duchies is thus weakened. Young Friedrich (Frederick) arrives from Sicily in the fall, is welcomed in Swabia, and is crowned December 9 at Mainz (see 1213).

Venice conquers Crete (Candia).

The Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa (Al-Uqab) July 16 breaks the power of the Almohads on the Iberian Peninsula (see 1195). Castile's Alfonso VIII has obtained the proclamation of a crusade by Pope Innocent III and gained the support from some French bishops, his 70,000-man army contains contingents of French knights and Knight Templars as well as troops from Léon, Castile, Aragon, Navarre, and Portugal, it has set out June 21 from Toledo, and the Almohad caliph Muhammad an-Nasir has moved June 22 to Jaén with a view to cutting off the Christian advance at the plain of Las Navas de Tolosa. Alfonso's French allies return home after helping to take two Muslim fortresses, but he recruits new troops from Navarre, leads his forces into battle, and gains a great victory just south of the Sierra Moreno in Andalusia. Pedro II of Aragon distinguishes himself in the battle; An-Nasir takes flight, Alfonso goes on to take Baeza and Ubeda, and most of the Almohads will soon be driven out of the Peninsula.

The Cathar "heretics" gain support from Pedro II of Aragon, who has heretofore supported the Albigensian Crusade (see 1211). Now 38, his loyalty to the Church has been above question, his heroism against the Muslims has made him a legend in his own time, he has been steadfast in making annual payments to Rome, but he now demands that the crusade in Languedoc be suspended forthwith (see 1213).

A "Children's" Crusade sets out for the Holy Land under the leadership of a 10-year-old from Cologne named Nicholas and a French shepherd boy from Cloyes-sur-le-Loir, near Vendôme, known only as Stephen, who claims to have had a vision in which Jesus came to him as a pilgrim bearing a letter for the French king. Advancing through Europe during the summer with the avowed purpose of liberating the Holy Land from the Muslims by love rather than force, Stephen's crusade gathers hundreds of followers, most of them destitute people of various ages who are called pueri (children) with contempt. Carrying wooden crosses, they number an estimated 30,000 by the time they reach Marseilles. Slave dealers there kidnap the crusaders and sell them into Egypt and other North African markets. Young Nicholas's crusade attracts about 20,000 followers in the Rhineland, crosses the Alps into Italy, but breaks into groups, with some of them being dispersed among Lombard towns while others make their way to Genoa, where they are refused transport, and others to Rome, where Pope Innocent III releases them from their vows. Many who reach Italy are also sold into slavery.

The Order of the Poor Clares (Franciscan nuns) is founded by Italian nun Clara of Assisi, 18, with help from her sister and Friar Giovanni Francesco Bernardone, 31 (Francis of Assisi), whose convent they joined last year over the violent objection of their parents (see 1209).

Tofu (soybean curd) reaches Japan from China, where people have eaten it for more than 2,000 years (see 907) and becomes popular with Buddhists as a substitute for meat and dairy products. The Chinese in the Song (Sung) period have also developed soy sauce, which adds flavor to the rice, oil, salt, vinegar, and tea that are dietary staples of the poor.

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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:35:58 PM   
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Q42 gotcha Robert....

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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:38:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mynok


Q42 gotcha Robert....




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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:39:34 PM   
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Year 1213:

The German king Friedrich II gains papal support by a bull that he promulgates July 12 at Eger renouncing all lands claimed by the pope since the death of the emperor Heinrich VI in 1197. Friedrich's rival, Otto IV, has the support of his uncle John Lackland.

The English Parliament has its beginnings in the Council of St. Albans (see 1258; Magna Carta, 1215).

religion

Pope Innocent III has a change of heart with regard to persecuting the Cathar "heretics" (see 1212). He writes to the monk Arnold Amaury in January that a crusade to the Holy Land must take precedence over the Algibensian crusade, but he writes a letter May 21 ordering a resumption of efforts to suppress the Cathar. Infantrymen from Toulouse lay siege August 30 to the town of Muret on the Garonne River. Simon de Montfort strips his other castles and forts to assemble a force of 800 heavily armed horsemen and 1,200 foot soldiers and archers. They reach the Garonne opposite the town September 11 after a forced march from Carcassonne. The Battle of Muret near Toulouse September 12 ends in victory for the Norman crusaders of Simon de Montfort after a terrible slaughter in which at least 7,000 men have been killed outright and thousands more drowned in the Garonne in their efforts to escape. Pedro II of Aragon has been the most powerful supporter of the Cathar "heretics" and is killed at age 39; his brother-in-law Raymond VI, comte de Toulouse, flees to the protection of his kinsman John Lackland at London; Pedro's 5-year-old son was betrothed 2 years ago to Montfort's daughter and is given into Montfort's hands. The young king will be put in the care of the Knights Templar at the insistence of Pope Innocent III, brought to Saragossa in 1216, and reign until 1276 as Jaime I, but the defeat of Pedro II will strengthen the power of French kings later in the century and help them extend their rule to the Pyrenees (see inquisition, 1233).

The archbishop of Canterbury Stephen Langton returns after years on the Continent and absolves John Lackland, who submits to Pope Innocent III. Both England and Ireland become papal fiefs.


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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:40:11 PM   
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Ouch - i had only checked the post before the missing portion... so about 5 months vanished...


yep. may be gone for good. An administrative boo boo.



Sigh... still, you have regained #1 spot...

it actually sounded like something went wrong with the forum software... jwilkerson said he was editing a post on the Thread, and when he finished editing it, everything went kablooie...



my cup runneth over.....

yeah, Joe showed me what happened. It was a boo boo. nothing more. no conspiracy so ya'll can go put Mulder back in cryofreeze. ;)


So sayeth the cigarette smoking man...

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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:51:58 PM   
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yeah, Joe showed me what happened. It was a boo boo. nothing more. no conspiracy so ya'll can go put Mulder back in cryofreeze. ;)

Couldn't really see it being a conspiracy...the mods will either let the Thread exist or not...they have all the power over it.

Still, I maintain that the a "clean" Thread is good for Matrix...it builds brand...builds community. SOme thread memebers are already talking about getting together...companies pay big bucks for that type of community building.

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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:52:47 PM   
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He doesn't know yet.....Erik hasn't returned his call/email. There may be a way but don't get your hopes up if it requires an effort.

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RE: The Thread - 6/4/2007 11:54:15 PM   
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Just look at all the history we get to cover...really looking forward to the 1400s.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:18:53 AM   
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Yes, but we have to re-cover the 1800's.....

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:27:13 AM   
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He doesn't know yet.....Erik hasn't returned his call/email. There may be a way but don't get your hopes up if it requires an effort.



Status Update.

I have heard back a couple of times from Erik, though the guys that push the buttons still haven't replied directly to me yet, but it isn't sounding good. In my "day job" doing a "selective restore" (which this is since we only want one thread on the whole forum) is not real easy, especially if the application doesn't support it. In those cases it requires a separate restore to a different box, followed by a one-time script or program to move the data over to production. That effort would probably be deemed "too much". But, I'll let you know when I hear definitively either way.



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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:35:03 AM   
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Well...as a life-long and current system admin, I can tell you right now what their recommendation is going to be (and that it is highly likely it will get followed by management): taint worth it.

Now perhaps if there's some magic feature in this board software that makes it easy...sure. But I doubt it.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:38:31 AM   
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Dear Thread! What happened here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I turn my back for a second and we lose 600 pages of the one and holy Thread?!

Is this a Madcowian consiracy?  

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:43:08 AM   
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Well the whole thing was gone for a while (and I logged off and back on several times) .. but some of it seems to have come back .. so maybe it had to do a "delete/add" of the whole thread to do maintenance on one msg (seems like a bad idea). But maybe the whole thing is comming back slowly (and took a synch point). Still trying to get some help. I do this all the time on other threads, but THE THREAD seems to have its own rules!


Mess not with the holy Thread, heathan, for thou shalt be cursed forever by the apostacy of the evil LOG and shallt code in BASIC for all eternity!

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:43:36 AM   
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Plus Im pretty sure I lost about 900 posts from my post count....must be something wonky (or horked) with the forums servers.

I've lost a fair few posts as well.........all pearls flowing from my keyboard..........Oh, the loss.............the loss...........did I mention the loss?


i'm not sure...


I'm not sure either. What was this about a loss?


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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:45:07 AM   
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T is really gonna be crushed...he may lose half his posts.


If T gets demoted to a 1 star I will serriously pi** my pants laughing.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:46:05 AM   
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And the member with the most posts now: NIK!!

Terminus still has almost 20K, but he is on the "banned" list...


Well, I guess that decides who the biggest Tread spammer is.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:50:54 AM   
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And the member with the most posts now: NIK!!

Terminus still has almost 20K, but he is on the "banned" list...

Banned list? How much did I miss the last few days.


Oh, quite a bit... you should go back and read all the stuff that happened this weekend...
oh, wait, you can't can you....

So am I to assume that a flame war ensued...and T no doubt was at the center of it.


I believe that was my fault, actually. I made a crack about the Denmark soccer match in which a Danish fan ran out onto the field and insulted the ref, asking whether the fan was Rune Iversen (or something to that effect). Then the whole Mad Cows crowd showed up and all LOG broke loose.


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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:52:33 AM   
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AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!! I want my merit back!!!

Where's that "maintenance" guy...



Maintenence? Do you mean the plumber or the sysadmin?

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:53:33 AM   
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T. got into it on the General Forum, and drew a 2-week suspension.


I think it's one week...

T gets into it often enough ...but, this suspension seems to be more a result of "popular demand" then actual "merits".



I prefer to equate it to a 5-minute penalty in hockey. Get in the box and chill out!

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The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:54:32 AM   
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still....5 months without LOG! is unacceptable.

This is what happens when you forsake the wood.....repent.




Sever termite infestation be unto LOG.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:56:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso


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ORIGINAL: Nikademus


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Ouch - i had only checked the post before the missing portion... so about 5 months vanished...


yep. may be gone for good. An administrative boo boo.



Sigh... still, you have regained #1 spot...

it actually sounded like something went wrong with the forum software... jwilkerson said he was editing a post on the Thread, and when he finished editing it, everything went kablooie...



my cup runneth over.....

yeah, Joe showed me what happened. It was a boo boo. nothing more. no conspiracy so ya'll can go put Mulder back in cryofreeze. ;)


Thats what all the evil LOG worshipers say!


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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 12:58:24 AM   
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He doesn't know yet.....Erik hasn't returned his call/email. There may be a way but don't get your hopes up if it requires an effort.


Hahaha! I can just imagine the Thread causing a company-wide emergency at Matrix where all the VPs get called in for an emergency meeting.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 1:03:09 AM   
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And now everyone's gone. What happened here?

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 1:34:41 AM   
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You must repost the Hebonics. I hope that is not what was found to be offensive.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 1:37:08 AM   
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Wow i guess someone had to take over with T gone. 12 in a row not bad.

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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 1:37:13 AM   
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AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!! I want my merit back!!!

Where's that "maintenance" guy...



Maintenence? Do you mean the plumber or the sysadmin?


The mailman...


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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 1:38:12 AM   
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And now everyone's gone. What happened here?


Isn't it obvious...you showed up.


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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 1:39:59 AM   
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You must repost the Hebonics. I hope that is not what was found to be offensive.


Here's some Serbian Hebonics:

Q: Excuse me, do you know what time it is?

A: Yup.


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RE: The Thread - 6/5/2007 1:45:49 AM   
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Wow i guess someone had to take over with T gone. 12 in a row not bad.


You ought to try it out...it's refreshing.


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